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banned8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
Got Bioshock few days ago and I'm loving it, but I have a little problem with it...

The little girls in the game....do I Rescue them or Harvest them???

Does it have any outcome on the game or does it just give me EVE? Are they human still or what?


I know its a computer game but I just can't bring myself to kill a little child!!!
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banned8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
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banned#1
Kill it, they are evil.
#2
You can rescue or harvest them...rescuing them will result in fewer points (forgot what it's called). However, you will get an alternative ending!
#3
The little girls in the game....do I Rescue them or Harvest them???

I know its a computer game but I just can't bring myself to kill a little child!!!


That's the whole point of the game - for you to have to wrestle with that dilemma. :)
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http://forums.xbox.com/14826817/ShowPost.aspx

Little Sister Savior (100g)
Complete the game without harvesting any Little Sisters.

I suggest that you go through the game a first time on easy so you can get this achievement over with as little invovment as possible. Going through the game without harvesting from the little sisters is very difficult even on easy becasue they play a big role in the game for you to survive in Rapture.Once you go through the game on easy and get this achievement go though again on any difficulty you choose harvest from the little sister getting the other achievement. I say this becasue it is better to get a hard 100 point achievement over with than it is to get a 10 point achievement and having to go through the entire game again making everything harder.
#5
If you rescue them you also get a nice special present for every third one you save.
#6
yeh its better to harvest them but damn its not so good to watch lol
#7
Both methods give similar rewards, I think saving them gives you a little more reward... and doesn't make you feel really guilty!
#8
Robotochan
Both methods give similar rewards, I think saving them gives you a little more reward... and doesn't make you feel really guilty!


If you harvest them you get no 100g points.
#9
I mean in game rewards :) I don't really care about the gamerpoints
#10
If you don't harvest them although you get less eve at the time you'll get a bonus eve package after every third girl which makes up for it pretty much as well as some other bonuses. There are two endings depending on whether you harvest them or not.

I chose not to harvest them, I didn't think it made the game much harder as I had sufficient adam as the game reached the later stages - I've not compared the numbers directly but I don't think you lose out much at all by not harvesting them.

John
banned#11
So I get 100G if I save them all AND 100G if I harvest them all?
#12
ODB_69
So I get 100G if I save them all AND 100G if I harvest them all?


No only 100g if you save them.
#13
Robotochan
I mean in game rewards :) I don't really care about the gamerpoints


That's why I hate those kinds of achievment points. Sure, it gives you something to aim for and offers extra replay value, but if you set out to get them from the beginning, then they take away from the experience of having your unique story/journey through the game.
#14
nightswimmer
That's why I hate those kinds of achievment points. Sure, it gives you something to aim for and offers extra replay value, but if you set out to get them from the beginning, then they take away from the experience of having your unique story/journey through the game.


I disagree they offer replay value to gain them, they increase what you gain from the game, since there are a couple of different endings. The game is a linear FPS its not a unique story line for each player only the 2 offered endings for following certain actions in the game.
#15
I finished this game last night, awesome game.
I rescued them all and got the "nice" family ending, not seen the bad ending yet
#16
Alfonse
I disagree they offer replay value to gain them, they increase what you gain from the game, since there are a couple of different endings. The game is a linear FPS its not a unique story line for each player only the 2 offered endings for following certain actions in the game.


Look what's happened in this thread. The OP stated that they were having an emotional reaction to the game. Should he rescue the girls or harvest them? Will either choice have repercussions down the line? Those are fundemental ethical/moral questions that the game was designed to make the player ask themselves, which in turn helps to get the player involved in the game.

However, you state:

"I suggest that you go through the game a first time on easy so you can get this achievement [Complete the game without harvesting any Little Sisters] over with as little invovment as possible"

So now, all that moral dilemma has gone. That emotional response has dissappeared. No longer is he on his own journey that involved experiencing his own emotions/reactions to situations thrown up by the game, instead he is just out to get that achievement.
#17
I agree with nightswimmer, the gamerpoints do make you play the game more but I don't think you enjoy the game as much if you are targeting specific gamerpoints. I played through it without thinking about the points and ended up with about 640 :) And that's what it's still at
banned#18
how about if I Harvest them all until the end, but save near the final bit.

then once finished go back and Harvest one of them, will I still get the 'happy' ending?
#19
I'm sure you said harvest somewhere there when you meant rescue lol
#20
nightswimmer
Look what's happened in this thread. The OP stated that they were having an emotional reaction to the game. Should he rescue the girls or harvest them? Will either choice have repercussions down the line? Those are fundemental ethical/moral questions that the game was designed to make the player ask themselves, which in turn helps to get the player involved in the game.

However, you state:

"I suggest that you go through the game a first time on easy so you can get this achievement [Complete the game without harvesting any Little Sisters] over with as little invovment as possible"

So now, all that moral dilemma has gone. That emotional response has dissappeared. No longer is he on his own journey that involved experiencing his own emotions/reactions to situations, instead he is just out to get that achievement.


I cannnot apply ethical dilemma to a computer game because thats what it is, I appreciate the story line, level design, the use of physics, FPS tactics, puzzle's and well engineered dolby 5.1 sound.

Firstly if you're gonna quote my post the link is where the text is from, the Bioshock XBL forum with the complete FAQ and achievement guide to gaining the maxium from this game, also the the text states the "first time" you go through the game which implies that more than 1 play through would be necessary.
#21
I have to admit I saved all the girls because I felt bad 'killing' them, I didn't know there was an achievement for it and to be honest it wouldn't have changed the way I played the game. I'm not bothered about gamerpoints and make no attempts to gain them.

I agree with the comments about the lack of variation between the two choices, it basically amounts to a bit more Adam and a different ending...that's it. For replay value it would have been interesting if the two choices made a signficant difference in the game, the obvious example being that by killing the little sisters you would gain signficantly more Adam but have no assistance from the little sisters. Whereas if you saved them you would receive a lot of beneficial assistance from them leading to two different playing styles entirely.

John
#22
Alfonse
I cannnot apply ethical dilemma to a computer game because thats what it is, I appreciate the story line, level design, the use of physics, FPS tactics, puzzle's and well engineered dolby 5.1 sound.


So when you read a book or watch a film, you never get involved with the ethical dilemma a character might find themselves in?

Firstly if you're gonna quote my post the link is where the text is from, the Bioshock XBL forum with the complete FAQ and achievement guide to gaining the maxium from this game, also the the text states the "first time" you go through the game which implies that more than 1 play through would be necessary.


Apologies for the lazy attribution. :oops:

As for playing the game through more than once - how can you ever get the experience of the unknown back again? If you know what will happen should you take a certan path, how can you recreate that uncertainty and worry that occurs when confronted by two dfferent paths, each with it's own set of unknown outcomes?

Personally I would play a game through without even considering the achievements, and then go back and try and get them all. But YMMV. :)

[Just to be clear, I am not saying you are wrong to have posted what you did, I just used what you said as a conveinient example of why I think 'achievments' take away from the gaming experience in some ways. :) ]
#23
this is an easy game once you have completed it once and that was the thing that made bioshock a really good game. the hard part comes if you want to get the brass balls acheivement!!
banned#24
arcsbite
I'm sure you said harvest somewhere there when you meant rescue lol


Sorry yes your right
banned#25
To be honest I would like to see both endings, BUT I doubt I will play it all the way through again...

I have a ton of games, only one I have completed is CoD4 (which is short!) as I get new games then switch to them for a while. I will complete, but with GTA4 coming out I'm sure I will forget about it after a while.


Is there a way to see both endings? I take it its just a cut scene?
#27
the saving ending is much better!
#28
Yeah, I just watched it on youtube when I finished the game, wasn't going to play all the way though it again just for that ;)

John
banned#29
So there are only 2 endings then?

There right evil little things....however my choice in this is:

I am going to go with my gut instinct and Rescue each child.... this was my original choice but I wasn't sure if it would affect the outcome

Thx all for the advice

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