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Hello all, just wondered what all of your opinions are on this story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6530295.stm I see both sides of the story, from her point of view, i would fight like anythi… Read More
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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
Hello all, just wondered what all of your opinions are on this story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6530295.stm

I see both sides of the story, from her point of view, i would fight like anything because as a mother and a woman i know the need/want to have a child. and i think why would he be so selfish to deny her ONE chance to be a mother.

From his point of view, i can see why he doesnt want sumone he used to be with become the mother of his child when he wont be around to bring the child up, also from his new partners point of view if this was happening to my fiance i would HATE the thought of another woman having his babies, fair enuf if they was already born............hope that makes sense?

Anyway i just find it interesting and wonder what the verdict will be, she has already been denied the embryos lots of times and if they choose for her not to have the embryos today they will be destroyed....

it will be interesting to see if the men side with the man etc

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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
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#1
i actually side with the woman.
#2
i feel very sad that if the embryos are destroyed today she will never have a chance to be a biological mother
#3
Its such a sad situation to be in. I feel for the woman as she is being denied the only chance of her own children but i don't think she should be allowed to have the fertilised eggs. It isn't fair on the man. He does not want to have children with his ex girlfriend.

It is a lesson for us all really if i was diagnosed with cancer and under went fertility treatment with my boyfriend i would also ask for some eggs to be kept that wern't fertilised with his sperm.
#4
yummymummy1987
i feel very sad that if the embryos are destroyed today she will never have a chance to be a biological mother



It is very sad for her i agree, but there are lots of other ways she can become a mum. There are thousands of kids who need loving homes.
#5
I DEF would have eggs kept that wasnt fertalised, so hopefully alot of couples will learn from this and save them self alot of heart ache. I also agree there is lots of ways to become a mother, she has already said she will adopt/foster etc if she fails today
#6
This isnt the first time this battle has been fought :-(

I doubt it will be the last aswell. Its very sad to see what this world comes to sometimes.

I agree with the woman, she should be allowed a child :-(
#7
I know what its like to want a child more than anything and not be able to have one.
I can't help but emotional side with this woman. If it was me it would probably kill me :(
#8
Update on this is the woman lost...
#9
She is entitled to a child, yes, but not using embryos fertilised with his sperm. They've split up, they don't want a relationship with each other, they shouldn't be allowed to technically have children with each other. Right decision by the courts.
[admin]#10
It is the right decision really.... can't help but feel sorry for the woman though, she's desperate to have a baby and probably sees this as her only chance.
#11
This was a tough one .I can understand both sides but especially the womans i hope she finds adopting can be just as rewarding and can move on from this.
#12
Just to take the debate to a next level, (without female favourship coming into it :thumbsup:)
Say a couple were together and both were able to reproduce naturally and the female became pregnant, do you think the man actually has any say in whether they should keep the baby.

I ask because yesterday i read on a website about this american who was in the courts trying to get his ex to terminate her pregnancy because he didnt not want her having his baby when they was no longer together.

I know its grim but i just wanna see what you all think about that.
#13
4Site
Just to take the debate to a next level, (without female favourship coming into it :thumbsup:)
Say a couple were together and both were able to reproduce naturally and the female became pregnant, do you think the man actually has any say in whether they should keep the baby.

I ask because yesterday i read on a website about this american who was in the courts trying to get his ex to terminate her pregnancy because he didnt not want her having his baby when they was no longer together.

I know its grim but i just wanna see what you all think about that.


Only in America!!!:shock: :roll: :roll:
#14
id tell him where to go, that is the politest thing i can possibly thing to say, i mean they would have to literally force her...........not a nice thought!
#15
Thats a different matter altogether imo,the man shouldnt of done the crime if he cant face the concequences.

The best way to avoid unwanted babies is to avoid sex! men forget that!

However the matter in the op, trying to force a man to become a father against his wishes altogether, ok they planned to eventually but things change, thats life, and should a baby come of it it can lead to issues further on, such as financial and even confusion for the child when its older, i do feel for the woman, i cant imagine how i would feel if i couldnt of had my kids but there are many ways forward now, ones that do not involve unwilling participants, shame she didnt have her eggs frozen unfertilised :-(
#16
I think the court has made the correct decision. I do feel sorry for the woman though must be really difficult for her as that was her last chance at having kids naturally. However the guy also has the right to have a say when he wants to become a father and who the mother is.

Very difficult situation but the correct decision
banned#17
She even tried to dye her hair blonde because Max Clifford said she would look better in the newspapers, but the only eggs she is getting for Easter are chocolate.
#18
*edit to remove idiotic quote*

Yunno I love strange tangents in topics. I like risque posts, hell I post a load of them
I enjoy bantering and non serious discussions and taking the P
However you my freind are hacking me off. Even I can see this isn't the thread for those kind of comments BACK OFF!
banned#19
Debate is the engaging of different views on the same topic. Just because I am making sense to everyone dont get upset.
banned#20
I'm on his side. He doesnt want her to have his child. He knows what she is really like, we don't. There is no saying that it would work anyway. It isnt our god given right to have children. They are a blessing (in some cases) not a right. She could have spent her time applying for adoption if she is so desperate to be a mother. That is if she is suitable.
#21
Jeez dkiernan ... you should have lived in Natzi Germany. You could have helped in their quest to destroy all who are not beautiful, intelligent and white. Diversity is the spice of life.

As for the question. The woman should have been allowed that chance to have her own child. I think the man is being peevish. I am sure some arrangement could have been made so he incurred no financial costs if that was his problem. I don't agree with potential life being fought over like this. Plus the guy is an idiot ... we are on this planet to recreate ... he never read the selfish gene?
banned#22
Gaia
Jeez dkiernan ... you should have lived in Natzi Germany. You could have helped in their quest to destroy all who are not beautiful, intelligent and white. Diversity is the spice of life.

As for the question. The woman should have been allowed that chance to have her own child. I think the man is being peevish. I am sure some arrangement could have been made so he incurred no financial costs if that was his problem. I don't agree with potential life being fought over like this. Plus the guy is an idiot ... we are on this planet to recreate ... he never read the selfish gene?


are we on this planet to recreate? do all the female of the world have the devine right to have children ? or do all men have the devine right to have fertile sperm? I think not, some of the human race are bound to be unable to concieve and thats the law of the jungle, tough but a fact of life.
#23
Removed inflamatory post and any replies referring/quoting it.

Thanks.
banned#24
emmajk42
Removed inflamatory post and any replies referring/quoting it.

Thanks.


big brother is watching you:thinking:
#25
ya missed mine but I removed the quote
banned#26
Thats just about sums up what I said. I'm a woman, but these type of woman drive me mad. I really feel sorry for men when all these desperate women are about demanding their right to have children.
banned#27
you are so right. IVF is just wrong, natural selection is there for a reason. If you cant have kids you are not meant to have kids.

Harsh but thats nature.
banned#28
Maybe they should stop leaving it till their late 30's, early 40's when that have less chance. They should be a little less fussy when they are younger and stop moaning when they are old enough to be grandmothers.
#29
dog_cop
are we on this planet to recreate? do all the female of the world have the devine right to have children ?


:-( :-( Gaia's are sooo misunderstood :p
First part was what I thought ... last sentence was tongue in cheek. If human's were driven by selfish genes ... sperm banks would be bursting their freezers!

As for do all women have the right to recreate? Some hateful people do not deserve the right to rear a stick insect let alone a baby.
banned#30
Gaia, Earth Mother, clasping mankind to her bosom.
#31
dkiernan
you are so right. IVF is just wrong, natural selection is there for a reason. If you cant have kids you are not meant to have kids.

Harsh but thats nature.


What a load of rubbish.
#32
Gaz
What a load of rubbish.


Totally agree with you mate. IVF sometimes gives would be great parents the oppurtunity that some miserable excuse for a father or mother takes for granted.

But the issue all boils down to the fact that the woman in question selfishly thinks her right to motherhood out weighs her potential baby father's right to choose who he has a child with and the resulting child's rights. Which i think is wrong
#33
4Site
Totally agree with you mate. IVF sometimes gives would be great parents the oppurtunity that some miserable excuse for a father or mother takes for granted.

Absoutely correct. My aunt and uncle had assistance in conceiving their children, and now they are fantastic parents to my three absolutely wonderful cousins. To suggest that they shouldn't have had the opportunity to be parents, as dkiernan did, is absolutely despicable.
#34
Gaz
Absoutely correct. My aunt and uncle had assistance in conceiving their children, and now they are fantastic parents to my three absolutely wonderful cousins. To suggest that they shouldn't have had the opportunity to be parents, as dkiernan did, is absolutely despicable.




i agree with you!!

if my brother and sister in law hadnt had ivf i would not now have beautiful twin nephews ( aged 4) and her problem was medical.

as for the post, a very difficult desicion, can see both sides as being a mother, but like said before a lesson to everyone else just have your eggs frozen not fertilized, and that is what my bro did 4 years ago just incase things didnt work out for them and then at least my sis inlaw still has some eggs frozen, but very expensive to do this, well it was!! :)

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