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Liverpool_Bear Avatar
6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
My girlfriend is moving in with me so I am clearing my house of items we don't need. I am using eBay to do so. I sold an expensive weights bench & set of weights, no problem. I've sold an Kenwood Food Processor and received great feedback. Lights have gone without a problem.

I sold my Wii on ebay. A friend modified it so it could play backup games, a feature I never used. I even forgot it was on. However upon receipt the buyer asked me why the menu screen was different to his sister's (the mod section) and told me that he wasn't happy with it as it might stop working! End result he asked for a £10 discount. I couldn't be bothered so I gave it to him.

Last week I sold a Barbecue I have never used (it's been sat in my garage for 6 years gathering dust). It went for £5, it was brand-new and cost me £25 (originally £35). When the girl got it home she noticed a few screws were missing. And asked for a refund. I said I'd give her a 50p reduction so that she can buy some new screws. Now it is being checked out as to whether it can be repaired!

I sold my girlfriend's printer last week too for £30 (a Lexmark one that cost over £100). Initially the woman who bought it complained it was noisy and wouldn't feed the paper properly. My partner said it was noisy when she had it and was very temperamental about how the paper was fed into it but it worked. I explained this to her. Anyway, yesterday the woman comes back again and complains it didn't look like the stock photograph I used because it was missing the plastic feed piece from the back. She made reference to my 100% feedback (on over 400 transactions) and how she wouldn't like to spoil it. too!

My girlfriend took the plastic off because it was causing the problem with the paper feeding into the printer. Once it was off it worked fine. Now because it hasn't got the paper feed part she is asking not only for a refund, but to cover the costs of sending it back to me (after I've incurred £7 sending it to her)!

Everytime I've had to send something back on ebay I've had to pay the return postage costs (I even had it this week with returning Season Three of Dexter).

It seems some people expect something for nothing.
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6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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banned#1
She made reference to my 100% feedback (on over 400 transactions) and how she wouldn't like to spoil it. too!
I didnt realise blackmail was part of the ebay way ....

as for returns I have always expected I would have to pay the return postage and have .. think she is trying it on
#2
dog_cop
She made reference to my 100% feedback (on over 400 transactions) and how she wouldn't like to spoil it. too!
I didnt realise blackmail was part of the ebay way ....


oh yes it is lol

but stock pics and bits missing should be in the decription?

i had a lady collected a £6 moses basket from emailed me 10days later there was a stain on the mattress-she returned it and i refunded. The stain was from a plate-clearly wasnt there before she took it as the basket was new(and id checked it!)
I reckon her hubby did it and wouldnt cough so blamed me. It wasnt worth her petrol to return it but some people are petty.
#3
dog_cop
She made reference to my 100% feedback (on over 400 transactions) and how she wouldn't like to spoil it. too!
I didnt realise blackmail was part of the ebay way ....

as for returns I have always expected I would have to pay the return postage and have .. think she is trying it on


you can report her to ebay for this,
banned#4
If you took time to check items and give correct descriptions of the items you wouldn't have had these problems, simples
#5
i usually try to sell through adtrader - meet the person, let them see the stuff, they buy it and i never see them again.
#6
dog_cop
She made reference to my 100% feedback (on over 400 transactions) and how she wouldn't like to spoil it. too!
I didnt realise blackmail was part of the ebay way ....

as for returns I have always expected I would have to pay the return postage and have .. think she is trying it on


no she doesnt if not as described or faulty...and if it has the paper loader missing and is temperamental would you be happy?
#7
TBH, your listings should be spot on with any issues listed as it's just asking for trouble or a paypal claim.

The wii guy was 100% in the right, if I bought a modded wii, thinking it wasn't then I wouldn't want it as nintendo won't do anything if it's faulty.

The BBQ is a bit fussy for a fiver, but still if it needs the screws to be usable/complete it should have been listed as a defect.

The printer again if this fault wasn't listed and the item was missing parts from the picture then they had a right to be hacked off tbh.

Ebay you need to list everything honestly including ANY defect otherwise you are leaving yourself wide open to issues, the only reason you probably did not have SNAD cases opened is they took into account the cost of return postage, courier for wii and the printer would have been heavy.


Paddy Charlie
If you took time to check items and give correct descriptions of the items you wouldn't have had these problems, simples


This^^^^^
banned#8
plumberman01
no she doesnt if not as described or faulty...and if it has the paper loader missing and is temperamental would you be happy?


if the seller had not described the fault in description I agree with your point , but still think the threat of the feedback is out of order ... but there again in some cases feedback means nothing as I have found out in the past
#9
dog_cop
if the seller had not described the fault in description I agree with your point , but still think the threat of the feedback is out of order ... but there again in some cases feedback means nothing as I have found out in the past


Yeah it gets annoying with fb BUT tbh op deserves a neg if he does not cover return postage.

The listing was innaccurate, the printer is not working 100% it has an intermittent fault and was not sent complete, if this was not in the listing, the buyer may yet still do a SNAD and be £7 down rather than £30.

If this is the way op always lists, it's why he has issues and won't keep his account for long as he will end up with too many SNAD disputes.
#10
tinkerbell28
TBH, your listings should be spot on with any issues listed as it's just asking for trouble or a paypal claim.

The wii guy was 100% in the right, if I bought a modded wii, thinking it wasn't then I wouldn't want it as nintendo won't do anything if it's faulty.

The BBQ is a bit fussy for a fiver, but still if it needs the screws to be usable/complete it should have been listed as a defect.

The printer again if this fault wasn't listed and the item was missing parts from the picture then they had a right to be hacked off tbh.

Ebay you need to list everything honestly including ANY defect otherwise you are leaving yourself wide open to issues, the only reason you probably did not have SNAD cases opened is they took into account the cost of return postage, courier for wii and the printer would have been heavy.




This^^^^^


The mod can easily be deleted and doesn't affect the running of the Wii. I forgot it was on there as it's been sat under the TV for about 9 months (I bought it in 2007).

I didn't think the Printer had a fault, and neither did my partner. It was like that from day one. She quickly learned how to load the paper properly as she admitted she wasn't doing it correctly. Her suspicion is that this woman is doing the same as it works fine.

I didn't know the barbecue was missing any screws. It was sat in the garage for 6 years gathering dust.
#11
Liverpool_Bear
The mod can easily be deleted and doesn't affect the running of the Wii. I forgot it was on there as it's been sat under the TV for about 9 months (I bought it in 2007).

I didn't think the Printer had a fault, and neither did my partner. It was like that from day one. She quickly learned how to load the paper properly as she admitted she wasn't doing it correctly. Her suspicion is that this woman is doing the same as it works fine.

I didn't know the barbecue was missing any screws. It was sat in the garage for 6 years gathering dust.


LOL so all 3 scenarios are your fault, if a wii has been modded it effects the warranty, so it should have been listed the buyer was right to be hacked off.

The BBQ was missing screws, which you didn't tell the buyer about, they were right to be hacked off.

The printer is faulty, you said yourself it was tempremental about how it fed paper and you actually had to take part of the printer off for it to work, this should not be the case. You should have taken it back when you bought it, not passed it of 2nd hand as a fully working/complete printer with no issues/faults

If you hid this from your buyer and sent it with the part missing, it's no wonder she is hacked off.
#12
tinkerbell28
Yeah it gets annoying with fb BUT tbh op deserves a neg if he does not cover return postage.

The listing was innaccurate, the printer is not working 100% it has an intermittent fault and was not sent complete, if this was not in the listing, the buyer may yet still do a SNAD and be £7 down rather than £30.

If this is the way op always lists, it's why he has issues and won't keep his account for long as he will end up with too many SNAD disputes.


I've been on ebay since 2001 and never had any problems up till now. The items I sold were all in working order when I sent them. The printer was working when I sent it.

The barbecue was collected in person and the screws issue only came to light 24 hours later.
#13
tinkerbell28
LOL so all 3 scenarios are your fault, if a wii has been modded it effects the warranty, so it should have been listed the buyer was right to be hacked off.

The BBQ was missing screws, which you didn't tell the buyer about, they were right to be hacked off.

The printer is faulty, you said yourself it was tempremental about how it feb papaer and you actually had to take part of the printer off for it to work, this should not be the case.

If you hid this from your buyer and sent it with the part missing, it's no wonder she is hacked off.


I didn't hide anything from anyone. The printer was my partner's and was working properly when we sent it.
#14
Liverpool_Bear
I didn't hide anything from anyone. The printer was my partner's and was working properly when we sent it.


But it was "tempremental" as to how it fed the paper and had the feed missing, so incomplete and intermittent fault, you did not have this on the lisitng, and wonder why the buyer is annoyed?

The wii was modded, yet you failed to tell the buyer, when this can effect the warranty, or cause faults and you wonder why the buyer was annoyed?

The BBQ was missing screws which you failed to tell the buyer as you never knew or checked before selling, and you wonder why they were annoyed after checking it over and finding them.

Ebay has it's faults sure, but there are also a lot of crap sellers, who don't realise it. Be more accurate in your lisitngs in future if you don't want hassle, it's that easy.
banned#15
OP are you a politician? You sound like it the way you are trying to worm your way out of any fault.

Some of the sellers may be being unreasonable but your descriptions didn't match your items faults as listed by Tinkerbell so you gave them the ability to be unreasonable
#16
Paddy Charlie
If you took time to check items and give correct descriptions of the items you wouldn't have had these problems, simples


again this^^^^^^

the title should be changed to "shoddy sellers on ebay who don't list their items properly who then look to blame everyone but themselves as they have loads of great feedback boo hoo hoo"
#17
tinks is spot on you did not describe your item correctly

take it on the chin and move on
#18
ants97
again this^^^^^^

the title should be changed to "shoddy sellers on ebay who don't list their items properly who then look to blame everyone but themselves as they have loads of great feedback boo hoo hoo"


:giggle:

and i agree
#19
ants97
again this^^^^^^

the title should be changed to "shoddy sellers on ebay who don't list their items properly who then look to blame everyone but themselves as they have loads of great feedback boo hoo hoo"


So I'm now a shoddy seller?
#20
Paddy Charlie
OP are you a politician? You sound like it the way you are trying to worm your way out of any fault.

Some of the sellers may be being unreasonable but your descriptions didn't match your items faults as listed by Tinkerbell so you gave them the ability to be unreasonable


I am trying to "worm" out of nothing. I've received plenty of positive feedback and am more than happy with that.
#21
Liverpool_Bear
So I'm now a shoddy seller?


Yes. More so if you can't see what you have done is wrong.
#22
Liverpool_Bear
So I'm now a shoddy seller?


yes
#23
ants97
yes


Thank you.
#24
tinkerbell28
Yes. More so if you can't see what you have done is wrong.


400+ transactions would indicate otherwise.
#25
Liverpool_Bear
So I'm now a shoddy seller?


if you seriously cant see what you have done wrong then im surprised you have that much good feedback
#26
ilovepink
if you seriously cant see what you have done wrong then im surprised you have that much good feedback


So am I.
#27
Liverpool_Bear
400+ transactions would indicate otherwise.


Does not matter, the big power sellers can be some of THE WORST on there, but as they bring in huge profits, it's ignored.

You sold faulty/modded/defected products and didn't list any of them correctly. You mis-sold and then have the cheek to blame the buyer when they complain, that would make you a bad seller.

The only reason you probably have good fb, is a long time ago, people off ebay would buy any trash and you could get away with selling crap, not anymore.
#28
tinkerbell28
Does not matter, the big power sellers can be some of THE WORST on there, but as they bring in huge profits, it's ignored.

You sold faulty/modded/defected products and didn't list any of them correctly. You mis-sold and then have the cheek to blame the buyer when they complain, that would make you a bad seller.

The only reason you probably have good fb, is a long time ago, people off ebay would buy any trash and you could get away with selling crap, not anymore.


So you deduced all this from 2/3 items? Marvellous.
#29
Or more likely in the (bad) old days, people wouldn't have left neg feedback for 'minor' issues fearing a retaliatory neg back to them.
#30
Liverpool_Bear
So you deduced all this from 2/3 items? Marvellous.


The 3 examples you gave are ALL your fault, and your attitude and your lack of willing to help the buyers for YOUR misselling would make it quite accurate, so yes.

So fs/t users remember the name ;-)

linuxlinks
Or more likely in the (bad) old days, people wouldn't have left neg feedback for 'minor' issues fearing a retaliatory neg back to them.


Exactly.
#31
linuxlinks
Or more likely in the (bad) old days, people wouldn't have left neg feedback for 'minor' issues fearing a retaliatory neg back to them.


That's the reason for it. Well done.
#32
tinkerbell28
The 3 examples you gave are ALL your fault, and your attitude and your lack of willing to help the buyers for YOUR misselling would make it quite accurate, so yes.

So fs/t users remember the name ;-)


I tend to buy rather than sell.

And what about the times when I have gone further than what the buyers expect and at my own cost?

I'm just such a shoddy seller.
#33
nope, still a shoddy seller.
#34
Liverpool_Bear
I tend to buy rather than sell.



Perhaps that is the reason why you have 400 feedback. Can three problems really be just a coincidence?
#35
ants97
nope, still a shoddy seller.


Still don't give a toss what you think.
#36
Liverpool_Bear
I tend to buy rather than sell.

And what about the times when I have gone further than what the buyers expect and at my own cost?

I'm just such a shoddy seller.


Well that would explain the high feedback then..............it's buying fb, not a reflection on your selling, which would appear poor.
#37
pghstochaj
Perhaps that is the reason why you have 400 feedback. Can three problems really be just a coincidence?


Eureka.
#38
tinkerbell28
Well that would explain the high feedback then..............it's buying fb, not a reflection on your selling, which would appear poor.


Definitely poor, I think it's terrible. I've sold about 100 items, so I agree. I think eBay should ban me or put me in the stocks.
#39
Liverpool_Bear
Eureka.


Have you given up defending yourself?
#40
pghstochaj
Have you given up defending yourself?


I'm turning myself in to Interpol as I type.

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