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BLU-RAY SALES SHOCK! Sale of players fall 40% after format war - Right choice for HD?

michaelmakro Avatar
8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
Well, Sony thought by 'killing off' HD-DVD that consumers would have no other choice but to buy their Blu-Ray players. After the 'War', sales of players have dropped 40% (ironically HD-DVD players only 15% as people pick up upscaling dvd bargans).

Do you think
1) consumers resent being forced into buying Sony stuff?
2) Disks are 'old fashioned', hard drives are the future?
3) Content providers are being greedy by charging premium rates for movies / content?
4) Other reasons?
5) Will you tie your colours to the mast and 'jump in' to Blu-Ray?
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8y, 7m agoPosted 8 years, 7 months ago
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#1
weird
#2
The future is on demand... discs get scratched and then you've 'lost' your rights to play the media...

I'd rather the networks were upgraded and have the content delivered straight to me!
banned#3
HD-DVD was the only format I would have been prepared to invest in. Sony is too restrictive, so I will be voting with my wallet and a big no thanks to Blu Ray.
#4
I must say that by accident I have Blu-Ray (Ps3) and LG writer o put my Hi-Def camcorder stuff on, but I still resent being 'pushed' to have it. I really wanted to go with HD-DVD for compatability issues and now there is no choice, Sony can dictate (as usual).
#5
At the moment people will pick up the HD DVD bargins (not only the players but the films as well).
This will continue for a while and then the Blu-Ray sales will pick up again.
A price drop on disks would also be helpful.
#6
I still think HD-DVD and BluRay was technology looking for a market.

The move from LPs (albums) to music CDs it was a no brainer, so it took off quickly.

The move from video to DVD was also a no brainer, so it also took off quickly.

But most people are happy with the quality and convinience of DVDs, many people now have HD TVs which they are happy with, and also have access to hundreds of films on Sky movies.

The extra "benefit" of HD-DVD and Blu Ray was just not worth it for most people, with the extra cost of the player and the extra cost of the disks.

And lets face it, the only reason Blu Ray "won" was that so many players were shipped in PS3s.
#7
guv
HD-DVD was the only format I would have been prepared to invest in. Sony is too restrictive, so I will be voting with my wallet and a big no thanks to Blu Ray.


Same as. Although tbh I had no real interest in buying into either. It's the region lock on BR that kills it for me as much as the price, which hasn't dropped as most of the fools predicted while they were crowing at the demise of HD-DVD:roll:
#8
Massive meh.
#9
Shengis
Same as. Although tbh I had no real interest in buying into either. It's the region lock on BR that kills it for me as much as the price, which hasn't dropped as most of the fools predicted while they were crowing at the demise of HD-DVD:roll:


With the demise of HD-DVD, Sony et-al actually raised the price of their players - no competition!

I hope they have to have a fire sale and sell them as cheaply as they made Toshiba do i.e £40 with 3 hd films.

It would be poetic justice
#10
I think its mainly due to the prices of blue ray discs and the prices of hd discs.
#11
leefal
Massive meh.


I agree.

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#12
vixygwim
Future movie releases (on disc) are going to be for Bluray, unless I'm missing something.


Yes, DVD. Most people don't actually care about HD which is why both formats were pretty much doomed from the start.
#13
1) consumers resent being forced into buying Sony stuff?
2) Disks are 'old fashioned', hard drives are the future?

Yes to both of these. And a good thing too. I've always hated Sony's restrictive marketing policies.
banned#14
to be honest with you.. i'm willing to sit it out..

the market (consumers) is confused.. loads of people jumped on HD tvs and then "true" hd came out.. 1080p

now that people think HD-DVD lost the prices dropped and people are buying the stock up cause its cheap! (short sighted in my opinion)

the way for now will be bluray but it is way too expensive... when burners come down to £60 then i'll think about it. but i still dont know how much blank media costs..?

on demand is the way forward but our internet infrastructure is WAY too behind to support this... copper has to go and as far as i know only a few companies like virgin are installing optical, download limits need to go too!

so for now i'm happy with my 700mb divX movies playing on my 22" monitor.. its not HD content but what movie connoisseurs are we?
#15
It's not polite to gloat, but HaHa - told you so!!

The amount of flack I got when HD-DVD 'collapsed' by saying that with no competition Sony would corner the market and BR would be more expensive etc etc - well everyone said that i was stupid for thinking that!!
A big thank you to those who stood by me and a big raspberry to everyone else!
banned#16
personally i think its not taken off cause there's not great need for it.. because people CAN wait for prices to drop they will.. if there was no DVD and only VCDs then things would be different.. the jump from DVD quality to HD is not that amazing that people will throw away their old LCD tvs and normal DVD players and pick up the HD versions instead...

maybe things will change when HD freeview comes out too... cause i dont know many people with SKY HD... but if it was free then people might want to record it in HD too and so would open the market up again?
#17
vixygwim
:lol:.. yes but I meant for HD material.


Yeah I know, but people really aren't that bothered as far as I can tell.

Liddle ol' me
2) Disks are 'old fashioned', hard drives are the future?


Does that mean i'm a pack leader :w00t:

imranmaz
personally i think its not taken off cause there's not great need for it..


That's is the bottom line. DVD material looks excellent on my 42" plasma, so why would I fork out money where I don't need to? It's all a spin game, and a failed one at that.
banned#18
Shengis

That's is the bottom line. DVD material looks excellent on my 42" plasma, so why would I fork out money where I don't need to? It's all a spin game, and a failed one at that.


if anything it brought down the prices for standard def products to allow even more bargains!
#19
That 40% drop is only for standalone players. PS3 sales have jumped up a lot (over 100%).

It si pretty obvious what consumers are buying. Until standalone players drop in price and become quiet a bit cheaper then PS3 then these figures will continue. Blu ray disc sales are also up (300%).
#20
Sony & Samsung launch new Blu-Ray players
Posted on 30.04.2008 at 11:33 in Tech News by Martin

Sony and Samsung, two of the biggest backers of the Blu-ray Disc format during its battle with rival HD DVD, are releasing new Blu-ray Disc products with the anticipation that consumers are finally ready to start upgrading to high-definition video discs. Sony’s new machines, the BDZ-A70 and BDZ-T90, are both Blu-ray Disc recorders that pack a hard-disk drive and dual-tuners for Japan’s digital TV broadcasting system. The former model has a 320G byte hard disk and iLink port for hooking up to a DV camcorder while the latter a 500G byte drive but comes without the camcorder connection. Both cost ¥168,000 (US$1,608) and are available in Japan only.

Samsung’s new player, the BD-P1500, supports “full HD” 1080p playback and accepts not only Blu-ray Disc but also DVD and CDs. In the case of DVDs it offers upconverting to 720p, 1080i and 1080p.But it won’t support BD-Live, the next major addition to the Blu-ray Disc format, out of the box. BD-Live is an interactive system that brings functions like gaming, e-commerce and new content to a Blu-ray Disc player through an Internet connection, due to be available in coming months. The first buyers of the BD-P1500 will have to upgrade their players to support BD-Live through an Internet or USB memory drive. The player will be available worldwide from May and will cost around US$399.


If and when they arrive over here, no doubt it'll be a 1:1 $:£ conversion.....
#21
gd_miester
That 40% drop is only for standalone players. PS3 sales have jumped up a lot (over 100%).

It si pretty obvious what consumers are buying. Until standalone players drop in price and become quiet a bit cheaper then PS3 then these figures will continue. Blu ray disc sales are also up (300%).


You are quite right. That's how I ended up with Blu-Ray, by default. However, it is pretty good to watch a movie in all its HD lovliness, bright colours and superp resolution, I just wanted it to be HD-DVD. Looking at the cost of Blu-Ray content, it is really expensive but not justifiable I think. The cost of a HD movie compared to a standard DVD is maybe 3:1 on the discounted sites.

Having said that, Freesat with free HD will be arriving soon (maybe June 2008) and I will certainly support that.

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