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Graham1979 Avatar
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Goodbye Great Britain....Hello Little England.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Predikuesi
Sadly we'll have to endure two more years of negativity from remoaners though.
Unfortunately this country will endure two decades of people of your ilk choosing the direction of travel.


Somebody needs a hug. Come on .....



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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Predikuesi
Sadly we'll have to endure two more years of negativity from remoaners though.

Unfortunately this country will endure two decades of people of your ilk choosing the direction of travel.


as long as we don't have to put up with people of your ilk heawd.
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Graham1979
Bye bye libtards, snowflakes, the perpetually unemployed with nothing but excuses and self-entitlement, those who welcome migrants who want to kill us and have their own rules and customs.

Immigration, both EU and non-EU, always could have been controlled by the UK Government. They always chose not to control it because non-skilled labour is needed in the UK to do the jobs that the indigenous population think are beneath them. Without migrants, London would shut down.

Graham1979
Once free of the shackles of the crying utopia of equality, I would firstly go for Australian style of immigration, you bring something you stay, if you don't then looking at the white cliffs of Dover from Calais is as close as you get. No refugees are in France wiating to come here, it is economic migrants.

Again - don't need to leave the EU to do that.

Graham1979
Then go for the unemployed, if you're disabled and unable to work then fine BUT YOU WILL be assessed every five years minimum. All others will report to their Job Centre at 9am Monday morning and will stay till 5pm. If they can't manage this then their not looking for work and get signed off.

You can be unemployed and not seeking benefits, can you not?

Graham1979
Then let's look at the people who have migrated here, contributed NOTHING and sucked from the system that is collapsing under their weight.

Which people are those? Statistically, migrants are net contributors to the UK economy.

Graham1979
This crying bawling self-entitlement stops, you can work you will work, you will take the first job offered.

Are you wishing to go under a Communist regime?
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Absolutely I believe in personal responsibility and I can say with a straight face and clean conscience that I've never done anything I believed to be unethical.

Except for the financial services industry, conveniently enough.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Obviously you've got an issue with bankers, maybe you had a bad experience and ended up in a bad situation or maybe you just saw contemporaries of your's have success in this field and you have an inferiority complex.

Guessing wildly again. And wildly wide of the mark again. Plus ca change.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
But clearly you have a problem with the way the economy of this country has been working, and people like me don't.

By any chance, was "Stating The Bleeding Obvious" the course you studied at the world's 4th best university?

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Once again, and you're not going to like this, it comes down to personal responsibility.

I am not going to waste my time again explaining how those in the banking industry have profitted MASSIVELY (and, like yourself, continue to do so) as a consequene of reckless and irresponsible behaviour at the start of this millennium. I am also aware that this inconvenient truth is wholly incompatible with your entitlement complex.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Although I suspect if I was in your shoes I wouldn't be looking for scapegoats and I'd take that weight on my own shoulders. At least I'd like to believe I'd have that level of moral fibre.

It's not those who voted for the UK to leave the EU who come on here whingeing, it's always the remoaners. I'm very happy with the current direction of travel. I have absolutely no need for scapegoats. Your continued failure to recognise your repeated projection really is most amusing.

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Oh yawn...
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when I read the title I thought something completely different
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Get your Humble Bundles in now before the pound tanks further
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Goodbye Great Britain....Hello Little England.
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Graham1979
Bye bye libtards, snowflakes, the perpetually unemployed with nothing but excuses and self-entitlement, those who welcome migrants who want to kill us and have their own rules and customs.
Once free of the shackles of the crying utopia of equality, I would firstly go for Australian style of immigration, you bring something you stay, if you don't then looking at the white cliffs of Dover from Calais is as close as you get. No refugees are in France wiating to come here, it is economic migrants.
Then go for the unemployed, if you're disabled and unable to work then fine BUT YOU WILL be assessed every five years minimum. All others will report to their Job Centre at 9am Monday morning and will stay till 5pm. If they can't manage this then their not looking for work and get signed off.
Then let's look at the people who have migrated here, contributed NOTHING and sucked from the system that is collapsing under their weight. You came with qualifications then you stay, if not YOU LEAVE! Let us use the foreign aid budget to secure the deportation to their countries of origin, no matter what their crying libtard excuse is. My favourite include "I'm gay so you can't deport me, although my wife and 6 kids need a roof over their head so can you give them a bigger house and it's against my human rights if you don't."
You have kids you pay for them, no CSA, no relying on the state, YOUR KIDS YOUR PROBLEM.
This crying bawling self-entitlement stops, you can work you will work, you will take the first job offered.


And people say that no-one is occupying the centre ground of British politics. It is hard to imagine a more balanced and rational assessment than this, I'm sure all will agree. X)
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Graham1979
Bye bye libtards, snowflakes, the perpetually unemployed with nothing but excuses and self-entitlement, those who welcome migrants who want to kill us and have their own rules and customs.

Immigration, both EU and non-EU, always could have been controlled by the UK Government. They always chose not to control it because non-skilled labour is needed in the UK to do the jobs that the indigenous population think are beneath them. Without migrants, London would shut down.

Graham1979
Once free of the shackles of the crying utopia of equality, I would firstly go for Australian style of immigration, you bring something you stay, if you don't then looking at the white cliffs of Dover from Calais is as close as you get. No refugees are in France wiating to come here, it is economic migrants.

Again - don't need to leave the EU to do that.

Graham1979
Then go for the unemployed, if you're disabled and unable to work then fine BUT YOU WILL be assessed every five years minimum. All others will report to their Job Centre at 9am Monday morning and will stay till 5pm. If they can't manage this then their not looking for work and get signed off.

You can be unemployed and not seeking benefits, can you not?

Graham1979
Then let's look at the people who have migrated here, contributed NOTHING and sucked from the system that is collapsing under their weight.

Which people are those? Statistically, migrants are net contributors to the UK economy.

Graham1979
This crying bawling self-entitlement stops, you can work you will work, you will take the first job offered.

Are you wishing to go under a Communist regime?
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Even after his comment was removed the lingering smell of troll remains
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Error440
Even after his comment was removed the lingering smell of troll remains

I didn't even want to get into a debate about homosexuality.
#9
Brexit triggered by a remain supporting Prime Minister that nobody voted for - heading a government lurching from one u-turn to another with a slender majority that was "allegedly" obtained by fraudulent means - you couldn't make it up.

I'll be very surprised if something isn't pulled out of the hat between now and the 29th to stop or delay Article 50 being triggered.
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yawn
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freakstyler
Brexit triggered by a remain supporting Prime Minister that nobody voted for - heading a government lurching from one u-turn to another with a slender majority that was "allegedly" obtained by fraudulent means - you couldn't make it up.

But we 'got our country back', no?

freakstyler
I'll be very surprised if something isn't pulled out of the hat between now and the 29th to stop or delay Article 50 being triggered.

If it does go through, it'll take decades. But yes, it is more likely to fall flat on its face, especially given the British are in charge of making it work.

The banking racket is working very hard to make sure we don't lose Single Market access.
#12
so should I buy my euros b4 the 29th (_;)
#13
m5rcc
freakstyler
Brexit triggered by a remain supporting Prime Minister that nobody voted for - heading a government lurching from one u-turn to another with a slender majority that was "allegedly" obtained by fraudulent means - you couldn't make it up.
But we 'got our country back', no?
freakstyler
I'll be very surprised if something isn't pulled out of the hat between now and the 29th to stop or delay Article 50 being triggered.
If it does go through, it'll take decades. But yes, it is more likely to fall flat on its face, especially given the British are in charge of making it work.
The banking racket is working very hard to make sure we don't lose Single Market access.

I voted for Brexit but I just don't trust the Tories to make it work for all of us. Half of them want Brexit to fail and for the country to suffer just so they can say I told you so and the other half are hoping for a hard Brexit with no deal, mass job losses and another decade plus of austerity.

That coupled with the collapse of Labour and the invisible opposition leader the Tories can do as they please - which they are.
#14
Best news I have heard all year.
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freakstyler
I voted for Brexit but I just don't trust the Tories to make it work for all of us. Half of them want Brexit to fail and for the country to suffer just so they can say I told you so and the other half are hoping for a hard Brexit with no deal, mass job losses and another decade plus of austerity.
That coupled with the collapse of Labour and the invisible opposition leader the Tories can do as they please - which they are.

No doubt. Mother Theresa was one of the staunchest Remainers. There is no credible opposition that have a clear plan/alternative
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freakstyler
m5rcc
freakstyler
Brexit triggered by a remain supporting Prime Minister that nobody voted for - heading a government lurching from one u-turn to another with a slender majority that was "allegedly" obtained by fraudulent means - you couldn't make it up.
But we 'got our country back', no?
freakstyler
I'll be very surprised if something isn't pulled out of the hat between now and the 29th to stop or delay Article 50 being triggered.
If it does go through, it'll take decades. But yes, it is more likely to fall flat on its face, especially given the British are in charge of making it work.
The banking racket is working very hard to make sure we don't lose Single Market access.
I voted for Brexit but I just don't trust the Tories to make it work for all of us. Half of them want Brexit to fail and for the country to suffer just so they can say I told you so and the other half are hoping for a hard Brexit with no deal, mass job losses and another decade plus of austerity.
That coupled with the collapse of Labour and the invisible opposition leader the Tories can do as they please - which they are.

So what exactly were you hoping or expecting to get from Brexit?
#17
freakstyler
Brexit triggered by a remain supporting Prime Minister that nobody voted for - heading a government lurching from one u-turn to another with a slender majority that was "allegedly" obtained by fraudulent means - you couldn't make it up.
I'll be very surprised if something isn't pulled out of the hat between now and the 29th to stop or delay Article 50 being triggered.

You don;t vote for a PM, you vote for a party.

Which is fortunate as it's the only way that Labour will muster any votes under Corbyn's leadership.
#18
Flodd
You don;t vote for a PM, you vote for a party.
Which is fortunate as it's the only way that Labour will muster any votes under Corbyn's leadership.

You can argue the opposite is true: Labour is even less likely to win the next GE because Uncle Jezza is leader. Markets suggest he has a 12.5% likelihood to be next PM.

However, what we have now is an unelected PM that reports to an unelected Head of State.
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m5rcc
Flodd
You don;t vote for a PM, you vote for a party.
Which is fortunate as it's the only way that Labour will muster any votes under Corbyn's leadership.
You can argue the opposite is true: Labour is even less likely to win the next GE because Uncle Jezza is leader. Markets suggest he has a 12.5% likelihood to be next PM.
However, what we have now is an unelected PM that reports to an unelected Head of State.

Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?

Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it. Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Goodbye Great Britain....Hello Little England.

It'll never happen... no country would tank their own economy.
#21
Flodd
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Goodbye Great Britain....Hello Little England.

It'll never happen... no country would tank their own economy.


funny, people said the electorate would never vote leave.....
#22
Flodd
Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?

The Tories did, not the electorate.

Flodd
Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it.

On the whole? Is 37.47% the whole?

Flodd
Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.

I'm not. However, many people voted on disseminated misinformation.
#23
Flodd
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Goodbye Great Britain....Hello Little England.
It'll never happen... no country would tank their own economy.

Never underestimate the incompetence of politicians. If they were infallible we'd never have wars or recessions.

The moment you stop acting in the best interests of your economy is the moment it turns round and bites you.
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m5rcc
Flodd
Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?

The Tories did, not the electorate.

Flodd
Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it.

On the whole? Is 37.47% the whole?

Flodd
Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.

I'm not. However, many people voted on disseminated misinformation.



if any political party got 37% of the whole it would be the biggest win ever (most probably)
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If they were infallible we'd never have wars or recessions

Recessions are nothing to do with politicians. It's due to the consumer not learning from history.
#26
shadey12
if any political party got 37% of the whole it would be the biggest win ever (most probably)

King Tony won with more (43.2%)
#27
m5rcc
Flodd
Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?
The Tories did, not the electorate.
Flodd
Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it.
On the whole? Is 37.47% the whole?
Flodd
Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.
I'm not. However, many people voted on disseminated misinformation.

We could go round in circles here... There's no call for any party to call an election when a leader steps down (in theory there shouldn't be any need to).

37.47% of the people that could be bothered to vote, voted leave. It's done. Have some faith in the process.

As my old boss used to say, if you think it'll fail and you expect it to fail, then it will fail - It's time for some positivity.
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Flodd
m5rcc
Flodd
You don;t vote for a PM, you vote for a party.
Which is fortunate as it's the only way that Labour will muster any votes under Corbyn's leadership.
You can argue the opposite is true: Labour is even less likely to win the next GE because Uncle Jezza is leader. Markets suggest he has a 12.5% likelihood to be next PM.
However, what we have now is an unelected PM that reports to an unelected Head of State.
Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?
Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it. Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.


Very slim majority an it would be interesting to see the vote broken down along ethnicity i get a feeling it wasn't just little Englanders but little commonwealthers too who did it, still considering the age of the avarage brexiter at least we can all look forward to their ex pat retirement plans getting skupperd
#29
Flodd
37.47% of the people that could be bothered to vote, voted leave. It's done. Have some faith in the process.

I don't, like many others.

Flodd
As my old boss used to say, if you think it'll fail and you expect it to fail, then it will fail - It's time for some positivity.

But Britain are specialists in failure. Think of any large, national infrastructure British project (and you can argue this involves infrastructure) that has finished on time and on budget. I dare you to name me one.
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Error440
Very slim majority an it would be interesting to see the vote broken down along ethnicity i get a feeling it wasn't just little Englanders but little commonwealthers too who did it, still considering the age of the avarage brexiter at least we can all look forward to their ex pat retirement plans getting skupperd

https://s11.postimg.org/bu5g3aewj/Capture.jpg
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m5rcc
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If they were infallible we'd never have wars or recessions
Recessions are nothing to do with politicians. It's due to the consumer not learning from history.

You can't rely on consumers to act in their best interests. They're simply not smart enough.

Politicians are there to effectively manage the expectations of consumers so they don't overextend themselves.
Flodd
m5rcc
Flodd
Surely the Tories elected a leader once Cameron stepped down?
The Tories did, not the electorate.
Flodd
Anyway it's besides the point, they're only putting in place a strategy that the British people (on the whole) voted for. Read that last bit again... the people voted for it.
On the whole? Is 37.47% the whole?
Flodd
Don't ask people what they want and then lambaste them for not choosing the same as you.
I'm not. However, many people voted on disseminated misinformation.
We could go round in circles here... There's no call for any party to call an election when a leader steps down (in theory there shouldn't be any need to).
37.47% of the people that could be bothered to vote, voted leave. It's done. Have some faith in the process.
As my old boss used to say, if you think it'll fail and you expect it to fail, then it will fail - It's time for some positivity.

Positive thinking will only get you so far. What's important in negotiations is leverage, not a 'can do' attitude.

The process has begun, what people should be doing is making sure they have as little exposure to the negative economic impact as possible. Pay down as much debt as possible and if you have skills that are desirable overseas then look into those options. Join the brain drain.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
You can't rely on consumers to act in their best interests. They're simply not smart enough.

That wasn't my point. I suggested that they are the main cause of recessions. We are approaching one now with the bubble that is the car finance/leasing racket.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Politicians are there to effectively manage the expectations of consumers so they don't overextend themselves.

That's really the role of the Bank of England, by controlling interest rates and therefore controlling inflation.

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
What's important in negotiations is leverage, not a 'can do' attitude.

And what leverage does the UK have, exactly?

HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
The process has begun, what people should be doing is making sure they have as little exposure to the negative economic impact as possible. Pay down as much debt as possible and if you have skills that are desirable overseas then look into those options. Join the brain drain.

You kinda contradicted yourself by saying earlier that one "can't rely on consumers to act in their best interests". So how do you expect them to pay down debt and improve their careers?
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m5rcc
Error440
Very slim majority an it would be interesting to see the vote broken down along ethnicity i get a feeling it wasn't just little Englanders but little commonwealthers too who did it, still considering the age of the avarage brexiter at least we can all look forward to their ex pat retirement plans getting skupperd
https://s11.postimg.org/bu5g3aewj/Capture.jpg

That's a bit weird.. . There's a mixture of race and religion which makes it hard to read.

Is that x% of brexit voters were black or x% of black people voted to leave? So in scenario b black people (for example) just might not have voted either way?
#34
m5rcc

You kinda contradicted yourself by saying earlier that one "can't rely on consumers to act in their best interests". So how do you expect them to pay down debt and improve their careers?

I don't. I'm telling them what responsible individuals should do - I have zero expectations that they'll do that.


m5rcc

And what leverage does the UK have, exactly?

Compared to the EU? Very little. Our economy will live or die by single market access.

It's compounded by the ineptitude of those that we've put in charge of the whole thing.
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At last the real game starts and I fear the deal achieved will bear no resemblance to what many people were led to believe they were voting for......
#36
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Compared to the EU? Very little. Our economy will live or die by single market access.
It's compounded by the ineptitude of those that we've put in charge of the whole thing.

Exactly. 78% of UK GDP is service based. Mother Theresa is adamant to avoid an EEA/EFTA/Customs Union solution and go for WTO rules. However, WTO does not cover the service sector.
#37
Flodd
That's a bit weird.. . There's a mixture of race and religion which makes it hard to read.
Is that x% of brexit voters were black or x% of black people voted to leave? So in scenario b black people (for example) just might not have voted either way?

It's the best chart I could find. The blue dot denotes the percentage of Brexit supporters (not necessarily Leave voters), i.e. around 25% of black people intend to vote for Brexit.
#38
m5rcc
shadey12
if any political party got 37% of the whole it would be the biggest win ever (most probably)

King Tony won with more (43.2%)


and brexit got 52%, tony only got 43%.
both % of votes cast.
#39
shadey12
and brexit got 52%

Only 37.47% of the electorate voted Leave.
#40
Flodd
m5rcc
Error440
Very slim majority an it would be interesting to see the vote broken down along ethnicity i get a feeling it wasn't just little Englanders but little commonwealthers too who did it, still considering the age of the avarage brexiter at least we can all look forward to their ex pat retirement plans getting skupperd
https://s11.postimg.org/bu5g3aewj/Capture.jpg
That's a bit weird.. . There's a mixture of race and religion which makes it hard to read.
Is that x% of brexit voters were black or x% of black people voted to leave? So in scenario b black people (for example) just might not have voted either way?

I think it gives a idea altho splitting it along race and religion has probably skewed it, for example what if you put hindu but no race, or your hindu and you clicked asian and prefer not to say on the religion etc

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