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Theresa May has said the UK "cannot possibly" remain within the European single market, as staying in it would mean "not leaving the EU at all". Brexit means Brexit :) Read More
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4m, 1w agoPosted 4 months, 1 week ago
Theresa May has said the UK "cannot possibly" remain within the European single market, as staying in it would mean "not leaving the EU at all".

Brexit means Brexit :)
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That's what we were told when voting on the referendum.
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jymufc
is brexit ever actually going to happen ? just seems like a lot of talk and no action, rather bored of it now to be honest.

Oh yeah, it's definitely happening.

Soon you'll get a £50k per year job picking and packing when we boot the outsiders out.

The NHS will start placing mints on the pillow of each bed due to the £350 million a week saving.

Schools will teach boys to speak like Hugh Grant and girls to speak like Helen Mirren thanks to one on one teaching.

Housing will become cheaper than a packet of fags.

Red, White & Blue bunting will be hung from every street.

Owning a bulldog will become law.

Great Britain will officially be rename Great BritAGAIN once we get back to the good old days.

Did you not know, Brexit means Brexit?
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the snowflakes will go into meltdown now X)

I like my Brexit hard anyway :p so let's press on & get deals lined up with Japan, USA, India, Brazil, South Korea...while the Eurozone implodes :D
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All those that believe Brexit was a vote on the economy, for better or worse, are fools.

Brexit won because of the alienation and deterioration of local communities, the collapse of public services, and the housing price bubble.

Low skilled immigration was the overwhelming number one factor for Brexit.

So all this talk of a percentage point here, or a few pence on an Apple download there, makes not one iota of a difference to anyone's views. Other than those desperate to grasp at straws in predicting endless gloom and doom.

When you talk to real people, not isolated pockets of the rich, they are buoyant, excited, and upbeat that at long last politicians are doing good.

Those that voted Remain have done nothing but belittle every piece of good economic news since the Referendum. That tells you all you need to know about what sort of people they are.

Bring on the Brexit.
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Bye Bye to the LoEUsers!!!

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That's what we were told when voting on the referendum.
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It's actually called the Internal Market I recently discovered. So I guess if Britain voted to leave the EU they won't be in the Internal Market anyway.
Trade will go on, but as to whether it's as nice as the access Internal Members only enjoy, or we content ourselves with the worst case scenario of adhering to World Trade Organision wto tarrifs on trade, which is fine also, is a matter for negotiation and political pressures eu leaders feel.
I Ended up being a remainer by the time it was time to vote, but want to get on with the business of brexit, and am optimistic by nature



Edited By: androidavis on Jan 17, 2017 13:56
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Bye Bye to the LoEUsers!!!
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We are going back east of Suez and NATO Is next to go! :D

Edited By: groenleader on Jan 17, 2017 13:58
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as expected, a bit of a blow for one or two on here, I don't want to say I told you so.....
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Who would have thought???

Surely everything she said today was a given on the day of the result. You cannot remain in the EU if you are not willing to allow free movement.

Can't believe it has taken 6 months for this to be revealed. Regardless of the vote the Government have been beyond incompetent.

I'm a remain voter. Despite it only being a advisory referendum I'm willing to look towards a future out of the EU. However, I have no confidence in May and her government in making a success out of this. At least she's finally accepted British law by British Judges in British Courts and will present the final plan to Parliament before submitting to the other EU States. That's one step forward yet has nothing to do with her. Imagining this government activating Article 50 on their own accord. If the last 6 months are anything to go by it would have been an absolute shambles.
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dtovey89
Who would have thought???

Surely everything she said today was a given on the day of the result. You cannot remain in the EU if you are not willing to allow free movement.

Can't believe it has taken 6 months for this to be revealed. Regardless of the vote the Government have been beyond incompetent.

I'm a remain voter. Despite it only being a advisory referendum I'm willing to look towards a future out of the EU. However, I have no confidence in May and her government in making a success out of this. At least she's finally accepted British law by British Judges in British Courts and will present the final plan to Parliament before submitting to the other EU States. That's one step forward yet has nothing to do with her. Imagining this government activating Article 50 on their own accord. If the last 6 months are anything to go by it would have been an absolute shambles.


in 2020 or before the country will decide if she as done a good job.
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how did she work that one out???
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dtovey89
Who would have thought???
Surely everything she said today was a given on the day of the result. You cannot remain in the EU if you are not willing to allow free movement.
Can't believe it has taken 6 months for this to be revealed. Regardless of the vote the Government have been beyond incompetent.
I'm a remain voter. Despite it only being a advisory referendum I'm willing to look towards a future out of the EU. However, I have no confidence in May and her government in making a success out of this. At least she's finally accepted British law by British Judges in British Courts and will present the final plan to Parliament before submitting to the other EU States. That's one step forward yet has nothing to do with her. Imagining this government activating Article 50 on their own accord. If the last 6 months are anything to go by it would have been an absolute shambles.

Well her excuse will be that she wasn't prime minister at the time of the referendum nor did she expect to be. It would have been rash for her to state anything officially so early without understanding the full implications of her post.

I don't see how she can be worse than Cameron so in that regard I'm optimistic :p

Edited By: delusion on Jan 17, 2017 14:21
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)

It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.

This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
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the snowflakes will go into meltdown now X)

I like my Brexit hard anyway :p so let's press on & get deals lined up with Japan, USA, India, Brazil, South Korea...while the Eurozone implodes :D
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delusion
dtovey89
Who would have thought???
Surely everything she said today was a given on the day of the result. You cannot remain in the EU if you are not willing to allow free movement.
Can't believe it has taken 6 months for this to be revealed. Regardless of the vote the Government have been beyond incompetent.
I'm a remain voter. Despite it only being a advisory referendum I'm willing to look towards a future out of the EU. However, I have no confidence in May and her government in making a success out of this. At least she's finally accepted British law by British Judges in British Courts and will present the final plan to Parliament before submitting to the other EU States. That's one step forward yet has nothing to do with her. Imagining this government activating Article 50 on their own accord. If the last 6 months are anything to go by it would have been an absolute shambles.
Well her excuse will be that she wasn't prime minister at the time of the referendum nor did she expect to be. It would have been rash for her to state anything officially so early without understanding the full implications of her post.
I don't see how she can be worse than Cameron so in that regard I'm optimistic :p

She was confirmed as PM not so long after.
Ok then. The past 5 months have been a shambles considering all the new roles she created.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.

Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, they are use to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are going to lose out..

People live to their means.. richer people have richer lifestyles, it will effect everyone, its just those lower down the ladder knwo how to manage..

your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am going to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely a lot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...

we aren't going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, I'm sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you don't knwo which way things are going either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.

Edited By: haritori on Jan 17, 2017 14:32
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)

It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.

This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.


you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
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Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.

Conservatives are so divided.
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haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.

I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.

But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.

What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.

It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
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shauneco
Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.

Conservatives are so divided.

So you're a traditional northern Labour voter yet you think Brexit is going to be good for you? In what ways?
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shadey12
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)


This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
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A hearty huzzah!
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.

Those key words 'for a while'..
Scaremongering works both ways. Many voted leave because they felt it was needed for change to occur, change that in the long term would benefit their children, their friends, and the country.

You can't categorically guarantee the survival of the EU with or without the UK in it, or what effect that would have 'for a while' should it implode...

How selfish would it be for people to let a ship sink tomorrow just so they can be more comfortable today...

Long term stability is massively important and unfortunately short term 'bumps' are inevitable.
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shauneco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.

That Wales receives? The EU member states. What you're going to suggest is that we could do it ourselves, that the UK government could take money raised from taxes and invest it into Wales rather than say the City of London or HS2.

Yeah that could happen. X)
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
shauneco
Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.

Conservatives are so divided.
So you're a traditional northern Labour voter yet you think Brexit is going to be good for you? In what ways?
My grandchildren may get a place at there local schools, The NHS will be less burdened, EU laws won't get in the way of common sense etc.. etc.. We get our Country back.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
shauneco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.
That Wales receives? The EU member states. What you're going to suggest is that we could do it ourselves, that the UK government could take money raised from taxes and invest it into Wales rather than say the City of London or HS2.

Yeah that could happen. X)
Scrap HS2, Relocate the capital up North.

We contribute far more into the EU pot than a majority of other EU members, We get a little bit of the investment back.
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delusion
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Those key words 'for a while'..
Scaremongering works both ways. Many voted leave because they felt it was needed for change to occur, change that in the long term would benefit their children, their friends, and the country.

You can't categorically guarantee the survival of the EU with or without the UK in it, or what effect that would have 'for a while' should it implode...

How selfish would it be for people to let a ship sink tomorrow just so they can be more comfortable today...

Long term stability is massively important and unfortunately short term 'bumps' are inevitable.

Why did some feel change needed to occur though? What did they think was over the Brexit rainbow that wasn't already there for them?

Should the EU implode then we'll feel the ramifications whether we're part of it or not because they're a huge trading partner for us. Holding up a sign on the White Cliffs of Dover saying 'We're not in the EU anymore' won't matter a jot because that's not how international trade works.

As for letting ships sink so we can be more comfortable, what do you think the proposed corporation tax and high-rate tax cuts are for? Northern working-class towns? X)X)

You acknowledge that there will be bumps in the road - now all you have to do is acknowledge that this government will do all it can to make sure some people don't feel them. That's what Brexit will ultimately do - solidify the disparities between the haves and have-nots in this country.

Do you disagree with that?
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Saturn
shadey12
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)


This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.


maybe the person pm ing me would know the rules, he seems to be good at having others posts/threads removed.
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Saturn
shadey12
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D
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dtovey89
Who would have thought???
Surely everything she said today was a given on the day of the result. You cannot remain in the EU if you are not willing to allow free movement.
Can't believe it has taken 6 months for this to be revealed. Regardless of the vote the Government have been beyond incompetent.
I'm a remain voter. Despite it only being a advisory referendum I'm willing to look towards a future out of the EU. However, I have no confidence in May and her government in making a success out of this. At least she's finally accepted British law by British Judges in British Courts and will present the final plan to Parliament before submitting to the other EU States. That's one step forward yet has nothing to do with her. Imagining this government activating Article 50 on their own accord. If the last 6 months are anything to go by it would have been an absolute shambles.

Agreed. Six months on and we're still no closer at sorting all of this out really.

But you're right. At least it seems May has been forced to accept British law regarding Article 50.
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shauneco
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shauneco
Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.

Conservatives are so divided.
So you're a traditional northern Labour voter yet you think Brexit is going to be good for you? In what ways?
My grandchildren may get a place at there local schools, The NHS will be less burdened, EU laws won't get in the way of common sense etc.. etc.. We get our Country back.


shauneco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
shauneco
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
haritori
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.
That Wales receives? The EU member states. What you're going to suggest is that we could do it ourselves, that the UK government could take money raised from taxes and invest it into Wales rather than say the City of London or HS2.

Yeah that could happen. X)
Scrap HS2, Relocate the capital up North.

We contribute far more into the EU pot than a majority of other EU members, We get a little bit of the investment back.

Shaune is hoping that we relocate the capital up north...bold strategy. X)

We won't Shaune. If you want the benefits of living in the south-east you should've moved here. You didn't.

This is the thing - we aren't going to invest in the schools and NHS that you want. Nothing over the last 7 years could possible lead you to think we would. What will happen is that we'll reduce taxes on businesses and high-earners, reduce services to match spending and there will be two education systems and two health systems.

If you want those things for your grandchildren, that will be dependent on you and your children providing them. Now you avoid talking about your circumstances like the plague but be honest, where is the hope in th future for you coming from?

Is it really making Nottingham the capital of the UK? Is that your long-term financial strategy?
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D

I'll message him and apologise. X)

As for Shadey, I felt sorry for him yapping after me so I thought I'd break his heart and let him know I have no interest in the views of someone like him. Felt awful doing it to the poor fella. :(
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D

I'll message him and apologise. X)

As for Shadey, I felt sorry for him yapping after me so I thought I'd break his heart and let him know I have no interest in the views of someone like him. Felt awful doing it to the poor fella. :(


nice to see you have strived, set and achieved your goal for January.
its nice to see someone having a goal, are you planning February's goal or does it go without saying devote all your time to hukd.
congratulations once again.
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D

I got this the other week (not from hedward)

:|

I'll track you down take your passport and put you in Syria...
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
maybe the person pm ing me would know the rules, he seems to be good at having others posts/threads removed.
'Getting posts/threads removed' is becoming a very tired old story that makes you sound like a one-trick pony. If you think that someone is doing that, why don't you report it to the mods for action? They will suspend/ban anyone who makes too many unnecessary reports so, if someone is abusing the system, action should be taken.
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D
I got this the other week (not from hedward)

:|

I'll track you down take your passport and put you in Syria...
So you reported it? And what action was taken?
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
Are you jealous because you didn't get one? :D
I got this the other week (not from hedward) :|I'll track you down take your passport and put you in Syria...
So you reported it? And what action was taken?

Nout I reckon.
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
you mean do exactly what you claim to have done all your life?
(as you have have pmed me, telling me I'm on ignore I do not expect an answer)
This widespread and unsolicited PM'ing is really getting out of hand. There surely must be some HUKD rule or regulation about it.
maybe the person pm ing me would know the rules, he seems to be good at having others posts/threads removed.
'Getting posts/threads removed' is becoming a very tired old story that makes you sound like a one-trick pony. If you think that someone is doing that, why don't you report it to the mods for action? They will suspend/ban anyone who makes too many unnecessary reports so, if someone is abusing the system, action should be taken.


as it could only be you or your friend, I am of the opinion it is your supporter who seems to play the rules to the limit. I don't think it would be you Ron, I don't think you would lower yourself to that.
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is brexit ever actually going to happen ? just seems like a lot of talk and no action, rather bored of it now to be honest.
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Hallelujah!
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Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.

Conservatives are so divided.
So you're a traditional northern Labour voter yet you think Brexit is going to be good for you? In what ways?
My grandchildren may get a place at there local schools, The NHS will be less burdened, EU laws won't get in the way of common sense etc.. etc.. We get our Country back.


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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.
That Wales receives? The EU member states. What you're going to suggest is that we could do it ourselves, that the UK government could take money raised from taxes and invest it into Wales rather than say the City of London or HS2.

Yeah that could happen. X)
Scrap HS2, Relocate the capital up North.

We contribute far more into the EU pot than a majority of other EU members, We get a little bit of the investment back.

Shaune is hoping that we relocate the capital up north...bold strategy. X)

We won't Shaune. If you want the benefits of living in the south-east you should've moved here. You didn't.

This is the thing - we aren't going to invest in the schools and NHS that you want. Nothing over the last 7 years could possible lead you to think we would. What will happen is that we'll reduce taxes on businesses and high-earners, reduce services to match spending and there will be two education systems and two health systems.

If you want those things for your grandchildren, that will be dependent on you and your children providing them. Now you avoid talking about your circumstances like the plague but be honest, where is the hope in th future for you coming from?

Is it really making Nottingham the capital of the UK? Is that your long-term financial strategy?


Don't knock Nottingham. Lots of big companies opening offices there instead of/as well as London
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Theresa May is growing on me and I dislike the Conservatives :(, I certainly wouldn't vote for them. I think all the political parties need massive reforms. Perhaps they could form a new party?.
Conservatives are so divided.
So you're a traditional northern Labour voter yet you think Brexit is going to be good for you? In what ways?
My grandchildren may get a place at there local schools, The NHS will be less burdened, EU laws won't get in the way of common sense etc.. etc.. We get our Country back.
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If this is true then there's unavoidable bumps in the road and that will always lead to the most vulnerable people suffering. Obviously everyone on HUKD is comfortably-off, mortgage-free and has an abundance of transferrable skills so that's good. X)
It's those other people who might struggle, the low-skilled, low-paid people who rely on public services in one form or another.
This idea that the established order will be flipped on it's head is a little ambitious. Economic conditions will be tougher and it'll be survival of the fittest for a while. Just look out for you and your family, be a bit 'I'm alright Jack' and forget everyone else.
Ive said this before people with nothing have nothing to lose, used to get a raw deal and having to make do, its those with something who are scared at what they are gogin to lose..
your comments on the other thread about me.. well yes I am gogin to prob have to tighten my belt, I rely alot on the NHS for my kids and i suppose some of the benefits they are in receipt of.. but...
we arent going to be building a shanty hut anytime soon, im sure we will cope while this all stabilises. your comments, are very matter of fact the reality is you dont knwo which way things are gogin either, in fact id say you have been proven wrong a few times the way this EU referendum result is playing out.
I have been proven wrong on a number of things and I'm happy to hold my hands up, but the simple fact is that the last year should have me jumping for joy. Financially Brexit has been great for people with investments, it's been good for people in the south-east property market (mostly) and if you've got the skills then there will be opportunities opening up.
But I don't like what it says about us as a nation. I don't like that fear and victimhood has trumped ambition and hopefulness, but as you say there are people with nothing to lose.
What's interesting is that you've highlighted the ways in which you'll be affected negatively (being in Wales and losing that huge EU investment probably makes things ten times worse) but you don't mention any of the positives. That's sad because you should lead with the ways things will get better, rather than hoping that things won't be too bad.
It's refreshing to see such honesty to be honest.
Who currently pays ( Many Billions ) towards that EU investment?.
That Wales receives? The EU member states. What you're going to suggest is that we could do it ourselves, that the UK government could take money raised from taxes and invest it into Wales rather than say the City of London or HS2.
Yeah that could happen. X)
Scrap HS2, Relocate the capital up North.
We contribute far more into the EU pot than a majority of other EU members, We get a little bit of the investment back.
Shaune is hoping that we relocate the capital up north...bold strategy. X)
We won't Shaune. If you want the benefits of living in the south-east you should've moved here. You didn't.
This is the thing - we aren't going to invest in the schools and NHS that you want. Nothing over the last 7 years could possible lead you to think we would. What will happen is that we'll reduce taxes on businesses and high-earners, reduce services to match spending and there will be two education systems and two health systems.
If you want those things for your grandchildren, that will be dependent on you and your children providing them. Now you avoid talking about your circumstances like the plague but be honest, where is the hope in th future for you coming from?
Is it really making Nottingham the capital of the UK? Is that your long-term financial strategy?
Don't knock Nottingham. Lots of big companies opening offices there instead of/as well as London

Quite, but we're not going to relocate the capital anytime soon. X)

But that's the line of thinking regarding Brexit when the reality is that the order of things simply won't change.

Those who have done well over the last 20-30 years because they've worked hard, accrued skills and knowledge will likely continue to do well whatever happens because skills and knowledge will always be in demand somewhere in the world.

But those who have struggled or 'just about managed', overextended themselves with mortgages or debt, work in a job that doesn't require many skills or simply don't have the intelligence or resources to cope with turbulent times will struggle more than they have at any time in recent history.

It's going to be a real 'men from the boys' time.

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