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British Gas to hit millions of customers with up to 9% price hike! UPDATE: Scottish Power prices going up too! - British Gas are now holding off on the price increase!

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UPDATE British Gas have now decided to freeze it's prices until August this year! Which is fantastic news for a lot of people. No one likes a price hike, especially when they come out of the blue - … Read More
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[mod] 4m, 1w agoPosted 4 months, 1 week ago
UPDATE
British Gas have now decided to freeze it's prices until August this year!
Which is fantastic news for a lot of people. No one likes a price hike, especially when they come out of the blue - Source

Also: Scottish Power are also increasing their tariff prices this March :(See here
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First NPower, now British Gas are raising their prices and it could come into effect as soon as next month!

It seems this will affect around 11 million customers with their bills going up by around 9 per cent. This would add nearly £100 a year to the average fuel bill, it could be time to shop around.

Looks like as soon as soon as one increases, the others follow suit ...

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It's nothing to do with Brexit, no matter how people would like it to be. It wasn't Brexit when they raised their prices last winter, and the winter before that ad infinitum. It is just simply GREED on their part at our expense.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.
You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.
The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.
Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.
Voting either way, or not at all gives you no certainty. We have no idea of the outcome of how the EU effects our future had the vote not gone the brexiters way.
While its logical to track a closer path with remain (based on newer historical data) it seems based on this data that people were certain that this was not what they wanted. So it seems bigger "uncertainty" was the better of the two uncertainties! :)
That is just wrong I'm afraid. We knew exactly the access we could expect if we'd remained as well as employment conditions, and that's key for certain industries making long term investments.
Brexiters can't run away from this truth that they voted for uncertainty for the economy. They want to focus on the opportunities in new deals but they introduced uncertainty into the relationship with our largest trading partner.
It's got nothing to do with remainers.
But that is factually incorrect. The state of the EU membership and it's certainty is only at that point in time. 40,30,20,10 years ago it was different to today. The one certainly is it will/would be different in the future. But that is now not one we will find out.
If Brexit or Remain was the right choice we will never truly know.
We're not going to agree because you want to draw false equivalences between the level of certainty we'd have had we'd remained and had we left. The drop in the pound is evidence enough to support my assertion but you won't accept that. No worries.
Can we agree the level of certainty that all was not well with our relationship with the EU, or the referendum would never have been suggested or needed. So we are certain it wasn't going well. So how do you sort out these kind of situations? You take control. So the uncertainty of brexit was actually pretty certain and thus makes it less uncertain an outcome. But doing the opposite of it would create more uncertainty.
The only certainty is uncertainty. Well apart from death and taxes.
We could've said with a high degree of certainty the level of access our most important sectors would have had our most important trading partner, and the terms of that trade. Those are the fundamental issues on which long-term investment plans are made.
We can't do that now.
The relationship with the EU wasn't perfect, but it was relatively stable and we've lost that now.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).
And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.
Then why do you have to bang on about it in almost everything that you post on here?
This thread is supposed to be about the cost of gas prices, not your constant whining about brexit and how you seem to think that you are correct in just about everything you have to say on the subject
Someone else brought up Brexit, I simply answered.
The issue is that household bills and essentials are going to go up across the board whilst wages for most low income households won't.
That means less consumer spending which has basically been driving the economy, and a lot of that has been on credit.
So people will reign in spending which will see the economy contract. None of this is radical thinking and even Shaune accepts there will be bumps in the road.
Well as minimum wage will have given people a 12% pay rise over 2 years (2015-2017) it makes my 2.4% look pretty miserable. Many people haven't had one at all. So low income people will be better placed than most.
Besides things going up is hardly new. Everything in life has gone up and will continue to do so.
If you are under the impression that gas is going to get cheaper year on year you are deluded.
Off the top of my head I can't remember how many years the minimum wage rose at below inflation levels but I'd take a wild guess that since it's inception it's not kept pace.
The fact that it isn't a living wage and that I expect us to see inflation on essential items both detract from whatever increases we'll see going forward.
My view is what it's always been - the weak Pound will reduce consumer spending which will drastically slow growth and lead to a recession by year's end (actually I said Q3 of this year). You only have to go to the shops to see food costing more and that's only going to get worse.
Go to any developed western country and you'll see dissatisfaction, frustration and anger at job losses for low-skilled workers. Those jobs haven't just been outsourced though, in many cases they've simply been replaced by automation.
So what's fashionable is for populists to take that anger and frustration and blame it on something, be it the EU, Mexico or immigrants. Brexit was about stopping immigrants taking those jobs (in large part, not totally) and Trump is telling the rust belt that he'll bring back jobs.
They're lies. Things for low-skilled workers are going to get worse because we've got technology that can do that work cheaper, quicker, better and 24/7.
Slightly off-topic I know but it's these workers who are most susceptible to increases on household expenses. 9% on energy bills won't be offset by real terms wage increases. 10p on a lettuce is small, but it's actually a 10-30% increase and you'll see similar increases on all foodstuffs.
You're right that inflation is normal and good, but high rates of inflation not matched by wage inflation is bad, and that's exactly what we're seeing.
But Brexit hasn't happened yet and it is impossible to make any realistic prediction when we don't exactly know yet. You have wasted the last 7 months on here stating opinions not facts. I believe that we'll have a much stronger economy after Brexit but that doesn't make it a fact either. It could of course go the other way or stay around the same. We just don't know yet.
with hindsight i'm sure it will be proved Brexit was a bad idea.


I'm sure with hindsight we wouldn't have joined in the first place. I'm also pretty sure with hindsight we will be glad we got out of the sinking ship.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).

And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.


Then why do you have to bang on about it in almost everything that you post on here?
This thread is supposed to be about the cost of gas prices, not your constant whining about brexit and how you seem to think that you are correct in just about everything you have to say on the subject

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if you have a fixed deal ending you might be in for a bit of a shock, prices have been going up for the past few months, our next deal will be £250 a year higher than the one we are currently on. Find a good fixed deal with no exit fee, then you aren't locked in if prices drop, probably wont but even Mr Lewis got caught out a few years ago so who knows. Problem is that more and more companies are adding exit fees and they also aren't as cheap as they used to be.
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it's time the government done something about all these price increases and make looking for a quote a lot simpler process I got a letter from npower regarding the increase I decided to look into switching and the hoops to go through to get a quote was unbelievable then trying to figure out which one was the cheapest was giving me a headache.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).

we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
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Shopping round at the moment, tempted to go for Sainsbury's energy as they are offering £100 reward card.
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it's time the government done something about all these price increases and make looking for a quote a lot simpler process I got a letter from npower regarding the increase I decided to look into switching and the hoops to go through to get a quote was unbelievable then trying to figure out which one was the cheapest was giving me a headache.
Just go on a compare site USwitch is one of many- MSE also have one , put in your current usage (from your last bill) . No Hoops ,Dead simple and you can switch to a cheaper deal seamlessly ( I do it every year) . Its old folk or those without internet access I feel for who cannot do this .

If anyone can post on here they can do a comparison and switch - as they can for Home or Car Insurance . Go through TCB or Quidco for possible cashbacks also . Of course you could go through HUKDs energy switch (shamelessly plastered all over this site) and let HUKD have your Cashback - Members choice -its a free world .



Edited By: rogparki on Feb 10, 2017 09:13: punc
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My current fix ends on April 1st and I've looked at prices on and off for about two months now. My current fix is so much cheaper than anything I could even get back in December (£30 a month cheaper!) that it's worth me seeing it through, as obviously I use more energy in winter than spring/summer. So I'm praying prices do drop in summer so I can hop onto another cheaper fix before next winter.

I can only hope that the pound recovers some of it's value as the Brexit vote is costing everyone in the pocket at present, be it gas prices, holiday prices, the price of new technology etc. The Bank of England really really need to raise interest rates a little which would aid the pounds value and keep inflation in check.
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The Brexit effect. But that's none of my business.
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petrols normal as we are use to it but the minimum wage has gone up so will everything else, its still the same then they say liveing wage.... i just changed my gas and electric supplier to SSE dont no if their good
#9
Prices are getting high and going up!

They say its consumer spending propping the economy....not for long at this rate!
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It's nothing to do with Brexit, no matter how people would like it to be. It wasn't Brexit when they raised their prices last winter, and the winter before that ad infinitum. It is just simply GREED on their part at our expense.
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Mine ends April too , it was of course much cheaper last year when I last switched so I will expect to pay 5% - 8% more this year . The emails I get telling me how much I can save (typically £200- £300 a year) are based on my suppliers current variable rate , not the rate I am on . You just need to compare and go for the best deal (it will vary for each household depending on your area and your usage ) .Go onto a switch site, put your usage in (from your latest bill) and the site will show you the options and prices (you don't have to work it out yourself - Even I can't do that !) .

If you are currently on a good deal don't expect to beat it this year (energy prices have gone up 5-10% ) if your deal has run out or is about to just try to limit the increase . If you haven't switched before - try it - and you may find a cheaper deal than you are currently on , even with the price rises .

Always compare - I have Car Insurance to do this month , Energy Bills next month (You can switch 42 days before your current deal runs out without penalty - but I doubt that will be wise in most cases this year ).

I used to enjoy saving a few quid by comparing - Now its a pain , but has to be done these days otherwise you end up paying over the odds for everything - Energy, Breakdown cover , Home and Car Insurance etc .
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It's nothing to do with Brexit, no matter how people would like it to be. It wasn't Brexit when they raised their prices last winter, and the winter before that ad infinitum. It is just simply GREED on their part at our expense.
Err - actually prices dropped last year -for petrol and for Home energy ( that's why I got a 1 year fix )- Would help if you got your facts right :(

Edited By: rogparki on Feb 10, 2017 09:46
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whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro

Absolute rubbish.

Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.

The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
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it's time the government done something about all these price increases and make looking for a quote a lot simpler process I got a letter from npower regarding the increase I decided to look into switching and the hoops to go through to get a quote was unbelievable then trying to figure out which one was the cheapest was giving me a headache.
Just go on a compare site USwitch is one of many- MSE also have one , put in your current usage (from your last bill) . No Hoops ,Dead simple and you can switch to a cheaper deal seamlessly ( I do it every year) . Its old folk or those without internet access I feel for who cannot do this .
If anyone can post on here they can do a comparison and switch - as they can for Home or Car Insurance . Go through TCB or Quidco for possible cashbacks also . Of course you could go through HUKDs energy switch (shamelessly plastered all over this site) and let HUKD have your Cashback - Members choice -its a free world .
I can't. Those of us on Economy 10 also can't use comparison websites.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro

The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.

What on earth are you talking about? X)

You do read some cracking comments on this site.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.

So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
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if you have a fixed deal ending you might be in for a bit of a shock, prices have been going up for the past few months, our next deal will be £250 a year higher than the one we are currently on. Find a good fixed deal with no exit fee, then you aren't locked in if prices drop, probably wont but even Mr Lewis got caught out a few years ago so who knows. Problem is that more and more companies are adding exit fees and they also aren't as cheap as they used to be.

I did not! :{
#18
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The Brexit effect. But that's none of my business.

**** all to with Brexit... Energy Policy isn't part of the negotiations...

It's funny that when one company puts up prices, the others do... one could almost be forgiven for thinking that they all buy from the same source...
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Predikuesi
It's nothing to do with Brexit, no matter how people would like it to be. It wasn't Brexit when they raised their prices last winter, and the winter before that ad infinitum. It is just simply GREED on their part at our expense.

There isn't an Energy Supply Company that makes a profit on the Domestic Market. If anything it's just reducing losses...
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)

Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
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it's time the government done something about all these price increases and make looking for a quote a lot simpler process I got a letter from npower regarding the increase I decided to look into switching and the hoops to go through to get a quote was unbelievable then trying to figure out which one was the cheapest was giving me a headache.
We use flipper, it's much easier and they check prices each quarter and switch for you. £25 a year is a small price to pay. Saved us over a grand this year.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro

Only 15% on petrol is not bad. Is the US it's gone up 32% and has been higher. 12 months ago regular gas (petrol) was $1.717
Today it's $2.267. Has been over $2.36.
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It's funny that when one company puts up prices, the others do... one could almost be forgiven for thinking that they all buy from the same source...

That's exactly how it is. You may be desperate to put up prices but you need to wait until one or more of your competitors blinks first and then everyone will follow suite.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.

Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.

You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.

The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.

Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.
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Flodd

It's funny that when one company puts up prices, the others do... one could almost be forgiven for thinking that they all buy from the same source...
That's exactly how it is. You may be desperate to put up prices but you need to wait until one or more of your competitors blinks first and then everyone will follow suite.

NO IT ISN'T!!!!

Energy is traded on a futures market... They all put their prices up because the market (where they buy their energy from) has gone up....

There's a slight complication as to when you hedge the purchase but in it's simplest terms that's what happens.

The wholesale cost of energy only accounts for 45% of the bill anyway, it's the additional taxes and levies introduced by both governments that's pushing prices up and up and up... This 9%? Probably the EU state aid payments for the Drax Biomass plant or to fund the Energy Intensive Industries charge due in Q3 of 2017 that the government withdrew funding for.

It's virtually naff all to do with extracting an extra tenner from Doris at number 7...
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Don't let the main stream media and economists/politicians fool you with fake economics. The evidence for the last 60 years, it was not exit that pushed up prices but it was joining that did it, plus the general inflationary push with price hikes caused by asset values.
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Pick up the telephone and speak to those Italians who had spent Lire, Greeks who had spent Drachmas, Spanish who had spent Peseta...Czech, Polish...and so on.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.
You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.
The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.
Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.

Voting either way, or not at all gives you no certainty. We have no idea of the outcome of how the EU effects our future had the vote not gone the brexiters way.
While its logical to track a closer path with remain (based on newer historical data) it seems based on this data that people were certain that this was not what they wanted. So it seems bigger "uncertainty" was the better of the two uncertainties! :)
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.
You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.
The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.
Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.
Voting either way, or not at all gives you no certainty. We have no idea of the outcome of how the EU effects our future had the vote not gone the brexiters way.
While its logical to track a closer path with remain (based on newer historical data) it seems based on this data that people were certain that this was not what they wanted. So it seems bigger "uncertainty" was the better of the two uncertainties! :)

That is just wrong I'm afraid. We knew exactly the access we could expect if we'd remained as well as employment conditions, and that's key for certain industries making long term investments.

Brexiters can't run away from this truth that they voted for uncertainty for the economy. They want to focus on the opportunities in new deals but they introduced uncertainty into the relationship with our largest trading partner.

It's got nothing to do with remainers.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)

Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
What on earth are you talking about? X)
You do read some cracking comments on this site.
Ikr. Prefaced by calling someone else's comment absolute rubbish...
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.

Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.

This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.
You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.
The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.
Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.
Voting either way, or not at all gives you no certainty. We have no idea of the outcome of how the EU effects our future had the vote not gone the brexiters way.
While its logical to track a closer path with remain (based on newer historical data) it seems based on this data that people were certain that this was not what they wanted. So it seems bigger "uncertainty" was the better of the two uncertainties! :)
That is just wrong I'm afraid. We knew exactly the access we could expect if we'd remained as well as employment conditions, and that's key for certain industries making long term investments.
Brexiters can't run away from this truth that they voted for uncertainty for the economy. They want to focus on the opportunities in new deals but they introduced uncertainty into the relationship with our largest trading partner.
It's got nothing to do with remainers.

But that is factually incorrect. The state of the EU membership and it's certainty is only at that point in time. 40,30,20,10 years ago it was different to today. The one certainly is it will/would be different in the future. But that is now not one we will find out.

If Brexit or Remain was the right choice we will never truly know.
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Whether in or out of EU, as it has always been since post war, one of the few ways in order to get reasonable stability in prices is to work efficiently like the Germans, apply more technology and processes as opposed to more charisma in leadership, and implement their social policies to drive market forces. Namely to drop that disasterous liberalism that resulted in globalisation by following Friedrich Hayek excessively in the UK which stripped partly the middle class into less wealth and well-being.
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whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Those terms will be agreed as part of the negotiations, by trying to stall, prevent or even advance (by demanding the government reveal their plans) those negotiations helps nobody.
Those terms might be agreed. Thats the root of the uncertainty, not remainers.
You could have 100% support for Brexit and you'd still have uncertainty over the terms of trade with our biggest trading partner.
The blame for uncertainty lies entirely with those who voted for Brexit. Brexit was by definition a vote for uncertainty so please place the blame on the right side.
Brexiters voted for uncertainty, they should embrace it.
Voting either way, or not at all gives you no certainty. We have no idea of the outcome of how the EU effects our future had the vote not gone the brexiters way.
While its logical to track a closer path with remain (based on newer historical data) it seems based on this data that people were certain that this was not what they wanted. So it seems bigger "uncertainty" was the better of the two uncertainties! :)
That is just wrong I'm afraid. We knew exactly the access we could expect if we'd remained as well as employment conditions, and that's key for certain industries making long term investments.
Brexiters can't run away from this truth that they voted for uncertainty for the economy. They want to focus on the opportunities in new deals but they introduced uncertainty into the relationship with our largest trading partner.
It's got nothing to do with remainers.
But that is factually incorrect. The state of the EU membership and it's certainty is only at that point in time. 40,30,20,10 years ago it was different to today. The one certainly is it will/would be different in the future. But that is now not one we will find out.
If Brexit or Remain was the right choice we will never truly know.

We're not going to agree because you want to draw false equivalences between the level of certainty we'd have had we'd remained and had we left. The drop in the pound is evidence enough to support my assertion but you won't accept that. No worries.
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shauneco
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whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.

We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).
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shauneco
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shauneco
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whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).

And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.
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shauneco
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shauneco
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Stu
whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).
And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.
100%, Of course I know the road will be rocky along the way. I think the only thing we can agree on is the fact that the future is uncertain, In my opinion it will be a better future for most, In yours it'll be the opposite.
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we are so lucky OFGEM are looking out for us and doing the job they get all that cash for
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brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).
And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.
100%, Of course I know the road will be rocky along the way. I think the only thing we can agree on is the fact that the future is uncertain, In my opinion it will be a better future for most, In yours it'll be the opposite.

Again Shaune, I have no doubt you believe that. My belief is that it won't be a better future for most. In fact people in your situation will be worse off because the cost of everyday items is going to increase faster than your income.

We both know that. But you don't want to hear that, so you choose not to.

If you want my advice then overpay your mortgage as much as you can for the next 6 months. Reduce your pension contributions to do this.
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whatyadoinsucka
brexit, everythings rising.. council tax 9%, gas/electric 9%, water 6% , petrol 15% (in the last year).
we all knew it would happen. hopefully with the french and german votes coming soon, our sterling may gain some value on the euro
Absolute rubbish.
Oil prices are going up as are other fossil fuels. The oil price rises so people switch to other sources such as LNG, Methanol, coal etc which causes their prices to rise as the demand increases.
The GBP has suffered against other currencies largely due to uncertainty of Brexit caused by the Remoaners who simply cannot accept the democratic decision that was made.
So remoaners caused uncertainty? There's not uncertainty because nobody is certain of what trade terms we'll have with our largest trade partner in two years then? X)
Yes, creating hurdles at every step has an impact on the pounds value. Of course everyone will use Brexit as an excuse to rip the consumers off.
Shaune, we don't know the trade terms with our most important trading partner in two years time. We don't know the access for our banking industry.
This is far more important and disruptive than anything remainers have done. You'll likely disagree and you'll be wrong.
We could see where we were heading being part of the dictatorship, All power being stripped away, Terrorist attacks every other week due to free movement etc... Uncertainty was and is the best option for the majority. Rememember the world is much bigger than the EU, Striking tradedeals with other nations will easily counter your argument. Britain will be free again :).

And I have no doubt that you believe that Shaune and nothing would convince you otherwise.


Then why do you have to bang on about it in almost everything that you post on here?
This thread is supposed to be about the cost of gas prices, not your constant whining about brexit and how you seem to think that you are correct in just about everything you have to say on the subject

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