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Im sure there was a thread on here the other day/last week, regarding an OP starting their own business? is it vise-able to work from home? How do you go about such a project? are there any fundin… Read More
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Im sure there was a thread on here the other day/last week, regarding an OP starting their own business?

is it vise-able to work from home? How do you go about such a project? are there any funding streams one can tap into, and if so, how much would you be allocated..

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#1
my request comes on the back THIS THREAD, whereby I asked all you lovely HUKD'ers to think of a name for my friends business.

As a hobby, from home, she designs and makes cards for all ocassions. Being disabled its hard for her to get out without, unless using the car, so chooses to work from home. However, on a recent visit to hospital (recovering on a main ward, making cards) she found she was getting several requests.....

She has recently been asked to design some sample Wedding stuff.. invites, menu's, order of service etc.... and looking at other companies etc, this is where she thinks she may be able to make a little money (although you won't get a wedding every week!) - if you catch my drift.

then came all the questions! Now, I've seen the cards, and they are brilliant, i'm just not sure how much of a task it will be to get it up and running, and whether or not, any funding will be available. What advertising opportunity are there, and what could the funding (if any) pay for? It may be that a new PC needed as her current desktop is on the blink!

She doesn't work does have income, in the form some sort (DLA etc - not sure what!)
#2
I think it depends how professional she is going to be about how she handles her "business".

How is she going to sell her cards?

Ebay? Boot sales? Open a store? Hire a stall at summer markets?

How is she going to access her market... how is she going to persuade people to purchase her product?
#3
Disco
my request comes on the back THIS THREAD, whereby I asked all you lovely HUKD'ers to think of a name for my friends business.

As a hobby, from home, she designs and makes cards for all ocassions. Being disabled (no sympathy please) its hard for her to get out without the car, so chooses to work from home


how about a website based one ...... she puts images of the cards on the site ..... people can buy them from her ........ pretty easy to set up

costs are minimal until she starts making big money (cant remember exact figure but over £9k or something) then once she hits another high figure, then vat kicks in

cost of building such a site ? £100 or less (if ya know people ;-))
#4
ClarityofMind
I think it depends how professional she is going to be about how she handles her "business".

How is she going to sell her cards?

Ebay? Boot sales? Open a store? Hire a stall at summer markets?

How is she going to access her market... how is she going to persuade people to purchase her product?


good idea ^^^ .... sell at carboots or even an ebay shop ..... there she can get known & get a customer base .....
#5
If she is going to start a real business she will need to inform the tax man that she is self employed and pay any taxes that she incurs and her own self insurance contributions, also.

Keep all receipts, for instance, if she needs to buy a new computer for her business she can ofset it when she does her taxes as a business expense. Ditto all the paper, printing ink etc that she will need. Just keep the receipts so she has proof of what she spends.
#6
ClarityofMind
I think it depends how professional she is going to be about how she handles her "business".


Hi

she's thought about boot sales
ebay is a good idea (althou fees etc, i'm not condifent she would get much after final fees)
a website should be fairly easy to do

Card is her main "buy" to start with.. Do you think she could do a deal with a shop (ie: Papermill shop in Royal Quays) who would supply paper at cost or a discount for bulk.
#7
Disco
Hi

she's thought about boot sales
ebay is a good idea (althou fees etc, i'm not condifent she would get much after final fees)
a website should be fairly easy to do

Card is her main "buy" to start with.. Do you think she could do a deal with a shop (ie: Papermill shop in Royal Quays) who would supply paper at cost or a discount for bulk.


a lot of stationary places will do deals with people for bulk rates (so they get some business)

ebay only takes 10% .... i would use it for a few months to get started but when you send the card ... include a note saying "we now have our own website xxxx and offer a cheaper price than from our ebay shop" etc .....
#8
Disco
Hi

she's thought about boot sales
ebay is a good idea (althou fees etc, i'm not condifent she would get much after final fees)
a website should be fairly easy to do


I think she will need a target market... if she has been approached to make wedding cards, thank you cards etc then I would make flyers and see if bridal stores, etc would mind her leaving a selection of her work, fees etc.

She will also get work from word of mouth.

Also, when one starts a business you're looking at maybe acceptable "losses" rather than profits for the first three years or so. It isnt an instant "get rich scheme" for a lot of people.

When I first started my business, I worked 365 days a year for the first three years. I made a loss the first year and then business picks up as you get known and build up a base of work and a good reputation.

To find out if a store will give you a special rate for buying a large quantity of a certain item... you'd have to ask x x
#9
anyone find that thread from the other day.. Ive searched but cant seem to find it..

Could idea about Bridal Shops / Samples etc. thats the main area of the business I'd help her with as I've dabbled in this for my own friends in the past couple years.

Guess on the type of business whether you lose, break even or make profit in 1st year. She's making card etc at home for friends and family so i guess making a few more might be worth her while.

is it best to go via Ebay Shop, rather than Ebay, and if so why.
banned#10
Disco
Hi

she's thought about boot sales
ebay is a good idea (althou fees etc, i'm not condifent she would get much after final fees)
a website should be fairly easy to do

Card is her main "buy" to start with.. Do you think she could do a deal with a shop (ie: Papermill shop in Royal Quays) who would supply paper at cost or a discount for bulk.


If you go to Seaham boot sale theres a guy there regulary who does very cheap card (and coloured envelopes, think the envelopes were 50 for £1 today), that might help to kick start it. You also have dainty toys at washington and the material shop in jacky whites market for bits to go on the cards. Maybe try selling at a boot sale if nothing else to guage reactions. If they are homemade, people being able to feel/touch will be MUCH better than ebay where you only see a photo, you can't really tell the quality from a photo.

vinylandtrinkets
excellent info already posted but one thing she must remember is if she becomes self employed she loses all her state benefits are being self employed is classed as able to work.
so to start off with i would just use ebay,tazbar,ebid and a few others until she can see if she can make any money out of it.


Thats rubbish, she will still get DLA for a start, and if her earning are under a certain amount will still get most other benefits.
She could contact Shaw trust for good information and possible start up grants to get her back into work too.

EDIT: She could also book tables at wedding fairs, they are usually only around £50, but make sure she takes plenty of samples to show people and leaflets to give out.
#11
Disco
anyone find that thread from the other day.. Ive searched but cant seem to find it..

Could idea about Bridal Shops / Samples etc. thats the main area of the business I'd help her with as I've dabbled in this for my own friends in the past couple years.

Guess on the type of business whether you lose, break even or make profit in 1st year. She's making card etc at home for friends and family so i guess making a few more might be worth her while.

is it best to go via Ebay Shop, rather than Ebay, and if so why.


ebay shop is a monthly fee and less fvf fees ..... its betteer if your selling huge amounts of stock ....
#12
brilliant comments to far... i've heard of Busines Link, but not sure if this would be what be any good?
banned#13
vinylandtrinkets
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/DG_10011731

No need to be rude mate! op the link above will tell her more information ,


I wasn't meaning to be rude sorry if you took it that way it wasn't meant to be like that, but your post did say she would lose all her benefits, the link clearly states You can get Disability Living Allowance whether or not you work.

:thumbsup:
banned#14
Disco
brilliant comments to far... i've heard of Busines Link, but not sure if this would be what be any good?


Try Shaw trust, they are specialists in helping people on the sick or with disabilities back to work, they can also get small grants, and if you need bigger can point you in the right direction.
#15
colinsunderland
I wasn't meaning to be rude sorry if you took it that way it wasn't meant to be like that, but your post did say she would lose all her benefits, the link clearly states You can get Disability Living Allowance whether or not you work.

:thumbsup:


my dad gets dla even though he works full time ..... he gets the lowest banding tho ... its all based on your circumstances
#16
vinylandtrinkets
anyway back to the OP request, had another thought..lol wedding fairs are a fantastic way of promoting the cards, if your friend is able she should also make wedding books, the ones guest sign at the reception. thats if you can find nice quality books to make them with.


we/she can make almost anything Wedding related right down to place names etc... so thats one area I wanna look into deeper, and advertise in more depth on the website once its done...
#17
vinylandtrinkets
if she wants to go down the road with the wedding fairs let me know i have a number for a wedding fair organiser who travels round the UK and she is the best in the business.:thumbsup:

just check and she is only doing south wales at the moment as shes been ill, but if you want the number let me know


super!! she got a website?
banned#18
I could make you a website.
#19
supra09
I could make you a website.


i do my own thanks ....... nice to see any samples you have?
banned#20
Disco
super!! she got a website?


just have a look through the papers when they start to be advertised, stadium of light, roker hotel and lumley castle are about the best 3
#21
colinsunderland
just have a look through the papers when they start to be advertised, stadium of light, roker hotel and lumley castle are about the best 3


what do you mean?
#22
faevilangel
how about a website based one ...... she puts images of the cards on the site ..... people can buy them from her ........ pretty easy to set up

cost of building such a site ? £100 or less (if ya know people ;-))


how would the payment side of things work matey? I have 1and1 Home Package, but wouldn't know where to start with regards to payment options on sites, or even if my package has this feature.
1 Like #23
This is probably a useful place for business advice:
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/index.php
#24
Disco;4909224
how would the payment side of things work matey? I have 1and1 Home Package, but wouldn't know where to start with regards to payment options on sites, or even if my package has this feature.


Paypal is the easiest to set up and the cheapest if you are just starting out.
#25
Titchimp
Paypal is the easiest to set up and the cheapest if you are just starting out.


cool.. can I use add the PP/Visa Card logo etc to the page and link to the PP site? or is it now that easy?
#26
Disco;4910057
cool.. can I use add the PP/Visa Card logo etc to the page and link to the PP site? or is it now that easy?


I don't really understand the question, :? but there are two ways of doing it, you can get an ecommerce solution and it will just be like any other shop really.. add to cart, checkout then you are taken to the paypal website to pay.

The other way is to set up products in paypal and then add the code to your site so that it adds it to a paypal cart.
banned#27
Disco
what do you mean?


for wedding fairs, when they are advertised just call them and ask how much for a stand

For a website take a look at cubecart or oscommerce, easy to set up and easy to add paypal to, fine for someone just starting, thats what i used.

I use cs-cart now as it has better options to be able to do stuff, but you probably wouldn't need all the features of that, and it costs $265. The first 2 i mentioned are free

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