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Buying a Moped

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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi going to buy a moped for christmas - i currently have a provisional license and will be buying this bike or similar one with a 50cc 4 strike engine max 30mph

http://*********.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130160075294&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003#ebayphotohosting

Now can anyone give me any tips or help on buying a moped - just want it for a few miles each day not much --just A to B

Daniel


p.s

What kind of price am i looking at for insurance am 18
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#1
Buy a push bike if its just a few miles a day, much much cheaper.
#2
check tyres
brakes
plastics
numbers on log book to bike both engine and frame
mot if appropriate has water mark

sorry cant help with insurance , best thing you can do is take someone along with you who knows bikes to check everything for you when you get it , a little trick is to reserch the value of a machine and spot one on ebay , go along to view and offer a reasonable amount if its a good machine that is , when it comes to price show him/her the print out ofothers you have found , this stops alot of the swearing at each other

some machines its very very hard to get parts for , concider this before buying , its better to paya little more for some bits for an aprilia than not be able to get something for your hang wang song hong foo che
#3
izzzzythedog
check tyres
brakes
plastics
numbers on log book to bike both engine and frame
mot if appropriate has water mark

sorry cant help with insurance , best thing you can do is take someone along with you who knows bikes to check everything for you when you get it , a little trick is to reserch the value of a machine and spot one on ebay , go along to view and offer a reasonable amount if its a good machine that is , when it comes to price show him/her the print out ofothers you have found , this stops alot of the swearing at each other

some machines its very very hard to get parts for , concider this before buying , its better to paya little more for some bits for an aprilia than not be able to get something for your hang wang song hong foo che


The one im looking at is new and offers parts for 12 months - 4 stroke

Btw im talking about going say to croydon etc
#4
What ever you decide, make sure you budget for some lessons and decent (visible and protective) bike clothes.

The idiots round here drive mopeds wearing shorts and tshirts in summer, and wobble all over the road, driving 2inches off the back bumpers of cars. They just don't seem to realise how vulnerable they are, and what damage tarmac or the rear end of a car can do at 30mph.

Sorry to be the voice of reason, but make sure you look after yourself.
#5
used to have a speedfight in my youth.

First thing I'd say is get it de-restricted, car drivers tend to get very jelous when you filter during heavy traffic, 30mph will not be enough to get you out of some tricky situations.

I agree with melissa, get some proper clothes, especially gloves, with winter on its way you'll soon notice that even going a few miles your hands, (especially your thumbs) will suffer from frostbite.
[helper]#6
If you are using the scooter everyday - sooner or later you will come off - it may be your fault but its more likely to be due to action of others.

So take Mintrels & Melissabs advice - protective gloves, boots, trousers and jacket will make the difference between walking away from an accident and being carted away in an ambulance. Build in the cost of this as they tend not to be cheap. Don't forgot boots - an ankle won't get much protection sliding down the road trapped under a bike from a pair of trainers. I used to use a pair of German ex-paratrooper boots - recommended by bike mags. Used to get them from army surplus stores.

IMO 50cc mopeds are dangerous as they are underpowered - what about a 125cc?
#7
gari189
If you are using the scooter everyday - sooner or later you will come off - it may be your fault but its more likely to be due to action of others.

So take Mintrels & Melissabs advice - protective gloves, boots, trousers and jacket will make the difference between walking away from an accident and being carted away in an ambulance. Build in the cost of this as they tend not to be cheap. Don't forgot boots - an ankle won't get much protection sliding down the road trapped under a bike from a pair of trainers. I used to use a pair of German ex-paratrooper boots - recommended by bike mags. Used to get them from army surplus stores.

IMO 50cc mopeds are dangerous as they are underpowered - what about a 125cc?

I want the 50cc as i dont want to take a test - just the CBT which limits at 50cc ---- do i really need lessons the whole days training should help - automatic bikes so -- though im not gunna be going like stupid speeds you know just normal e.g wanna go a friends house
I wouldnt wear boots on a moped -----if i bought a motorbike id need all that stuff but as of yet its a simple twist and go 50 cc moped

But im going toi be wearing some protective stuff e.g helmet and gloves but not over the top as i used to ride me bicycle on the roads really fast and i never got injured-- depends how good a balance you can keep i suppose

But thanks for the advice
#8
As im 18 can i ride a 125cc moped with just a cbt license?
#10
Some good advice there chaps. With regards the insurance I know a lad who is 18 who has a 125 trial bike style and he pays £800. Though the insurance may be high the overall running cost of a bike is minimal with the tax being as low as £15.

I have previously gone from a 100cc peugeot speedfight to a Yamaha geared 125ybr though the Yammy is a better ride the gears are a pain in the ass. I was under the illusion of taking my test this year instead of having to take my 4th CBT. The CBT is a fantastic idea for 16-20 year olds but Im 35, being riding my scoot for 6yrs or so if I find its not my inexperience thats going to cause me a problem its the plonkers on the road that Im up against. A day at no bike centre is going to prepare me for that.

Another tip would to ensure you are as BRIGHT as can be, get yourself seen as much as possible. You might look like a plonker with everything illuminous but one things for sure Its better to be an alive plonker than a dead one!!

Good luck!!
#11
dandoc2
As im 18 can i ride a 125cc moped with just a cbt license?


I hope I am right in saying Yes you can ride your 125 with a CBT as though I am much older and hold a car licence I am too riding on a CBT.

Hope this is correct!
#12
jonnic
I hope I am right in saying Yes you can ride your 125 with a CBT as though I am much older and hold a car licence I am too riding on a CBT.

Hope this is correct!

I only have a provisional---- so you need a full license to ride a 125cc +

Oh well looks like 50cc max for me then

Btw is this a good moped on ebay - looks daft but hey who cares

Item number: 130160075294

Just im such a rubbish driver i will never pass my test and this seems a good option until i do take it

So for insuring a 50cc moped im looking less than £300 a year then >?
banned#13
i would advise against a moped cos they are so damn slow, but if you live somewhere where there is alot of traffic (ie london) then it can actually be quicker. :)
#14
hothothot
i would advise against a moped cos they are so damn slow, but if you live somewhere where there is alot of traffic (ie london) then it can actually be quicker. :)

Near croydon and its usually gridlock
#15
if you have ur provisional licence, and you do your cbt, you can ride anything up to a 125 with a max power of 12.(something) bhp.

if i were u id get a cheap chinese bike mine was £900 but you can get ones for about £500 i get about 95 miles per gallon and its only £15 a year road tax, if you are only doing a few miles through towns a day they are very good, but if you are going for long stretches on 70mph roads they are not so good 60mph at a push, but i have one and love it (but i also love taking it into pieces and sorting out the problems) i commute back and forwards to college everyother day. insurance for me is about £400 and i was 18 (19 now) and living on the same post code as middlesbrough.
#16
I just got a quick quote for insurance here Dan, pretending I was 18 :sigh: I feel so old... lol

and it was £308.19... (£150 if you were 5 years older lol...)
#17
sadiebabes
I just got a quick quote for insurance here Dan, pretending I was 18 :sigh: I feel so old... lol

and it was £308.19... (£150 if you were 5 years older lol...)

Thats pretty good then

Right so i can ride a 125cc as i have a provisional (my license says A next to the bike picture)

But then again a 50cc is like £500 and a 125cc will cost more hmmm can i get a 50cc unrestricted as im older than 16

I really love these retro ones
Item number: 160173057180
Item number: 180172261527

But you gotta assemble them thats why i like this Item number: 130160075294
as its already assembled for you
#18
I like the last one best too :)

Are your parents getting it you as a present?
#19
sadiebabes
I like the last one best too :)

Are your parents getting it you as a present?

Nope im paying - they want me to drive but its not for me

Which one do you like best - the retro one or the already built one
#20
dandoc2
Nope im paying - they want me to drive but its not for me

Which one do you like best - the retro one or the already built one


They grow up so fast don't they :cry:
#21
sadiebabes
I just got a quick quote for insurance here Dan, pretending I was 18 :sigh: I feel so old... lol

and it was £308.19... (£150 if you were 5 years older lol...)

All i get it £438 with 3rd party fire and theft and £900 with comp
But third party on its own i get £333.61

Wouldnt i need fire and theft as its a scooter and its bound to get stolen
#22
with the chinese bikes you cant really de restrict them :( you can do things like adding air fillters and different carb jets but they wont do much. and if you look most of them are 4 stroke meaning they are only 25cc compaired to the 2 stroke ones.
go for which ever one you like the most, dont go by which one is easier to build as that is only the first day of the bike and you have to live with it for the rest of its life,
if you are handy with a spanner they arnt hard to build, or if you arnt any bike shop will be able to build them for at most 3 hours of labour.
#23
Iceman1610
with the chinese bikes you cant really de restrict them :( you can do things like adding air fillters and different carb jets but they wont do much. and if you look most of them are 4 stroke meaning they are only 25cc compaired to the 2 stroke ones.
go for which ever one you like the most, dont go by which one is easier to build as that is only the first day of the bike and you have to live with it for the rest of its life,
if you are handy with a spanner they arnt hard to build, or if you arnt any bike shop will be able to build them for at most 3 hours of labour.

So 2 strokes better than 4?? - suppose a bike shop could built it - but then i might as well got and buy one froma bike shop
#24
erm a 2 stroke will have more power, but a 4 stroke will theoreticaly last longer (but being chinese it probably wont and will last the same time)

if you go to a bike shop the scooters may be more expensive as the shop will want a comision(sp?)
#25
Some great advice given on safety which I hope you've taken on board Dandoc :thumbsup: Having been driving for 'a while' (don't want to admit my age ;-) ) I've come to the conclusion that there are more idiots on the road than capable drivers. Unfortunately this has very bad consequences for people on bikes as, no matter who is to blame, they are invariably the losers overall when a collision happens.


When you start driving (either on a bike or in a car) you will have no experience and this means you are much more prone to have an accident than someone with lots of driving time under their belt. For this reason I'd personally advise against a bike but, if you are determined to get one or you're in a position where it is the only choice, I'd heartily recommend you follow the advice here and buy good safety equipment (and more importantly - wear it whenever you ride).

All that's left to say is good luck :thumbsup: and, if possible, grow some eyes in the back of your head.
#26
carterman your right there are too many dangerous drivers. BUT if you are careful there is no reason not to go out on a bike, people need to get experiance but the only way to do that is to go out and ride, and keep an eye out for the people that are dangerous, which tends to be vans, beaten up cars and the company car type cars, bemmers etc.

the thing is most of the people that have pulled out on me or tryed to drive into me have been middle aged as they get cocky and think oh im a good driver and dont need to pay as much attention as the younger drivers. not saying there arnt younger drivers that are bad but so far i havent found them as the tests keep getting harder and harder and the younger drivers have to do them, but the people that did there tests years ago had easier tests and so dont learn the newer stuff.
#27
My friend had a 50cc moped and soon traded it in for a 125cc. He always says he wishes he had bought a 125cc from the start.

The internetbikeshop have been around a long time and are based in london so best to go and have a chat and try a 50cc and a 125cc this will help you decide.
#28
Yes but you can get a 125cc moped for £750 which makes it cheap transport. If I had £2k to spend would be a lot more tempted to buy a car.
#29
I think Dan's after the cheapest thing (?) and doesn't want any licence issues ??
#30
well a 125 chinese bike is the best bet, i agree mopeds all sound like toys.

Item number: 270178668462

that is what i have and altho they arnt as powerful as the japanese equivelents or the race replicas like the aprillias they are a fraction of the price.

and best thing is you can ride them on a provisional with a cbt (which you will need to ride any sort of bike or scooter). only problem is getting insured as some brokers wont touch it as its chinese. but still if you look around my mate got it for £200 for his first year 3rd party F+T and i got it for £400 for the same.
#31
sounds like he went to a ****** place then. i got taught everything i needed.

and with things getting stolen, i ALWAYS have my heavy chain on and before my disc lock jammed i had that on whenever i couldnt see my bike. just make sure you chain it to something im-movable street lights etc and that you dont be stupid and park it in back streets or at the dead of night etc. most highstreets have places you can chain bikes to in crowded areas. also try to park you bike next to a big bike or a bike that looks more expensive, then a potential theif will steal the bigger bike and leave yours, sneaky but it works
#32
the cheap chinese bikes are just that ,cheap , poor quality components that have near no life span , the metal making the machines is of such poor quality it wouldnt be fit to go on a european manutactored bike , you pays your money and takes your choice

buying new is to be honest a great way of losing money , a good condition 1 or 2 yr old machine brought froma dealer will be a better bet , another thing to think about is there alot easier to fix as they will have known faults , an example is suzuki and generators ( field windings on the coil over heats and frys the electrics taking out the regulator/rectifier and then the battery , you find out when the bike doesnt start , this is lack of oil that causes this ) , you will fall off it and hopefully not aided by a car , sadly majority of accidents are caused by car drivers inability to look at junctions or use a mirror to change lanes

iceman doesnt work that way at all , small bikes can and will be used off road and also are in much more demand for parts soare vastly more likely to be stolen , they can of course be picked up and into the back of the van easly , type of bike matters , try keeping a kmx125 for more than 10 minutes
#33
sadiebabes
I think Dan's after the cheapest thing (?) and doesn't want any licence issues ??

Yep

Iceman1610
well a 125 chinese bike is the best bet, i agree mopeds all sound like toys.

Item number: 270178668462

that is what i have and altho they arnt as powerful as the japanese equivelents or the race replicas like the aprillias they are a fraction of the price.

and best thing is you can ride them on a provisional with a cbt (which you will need to ride any sort of bike or scooter). only problem is getting insured as some brokers wont touch it as its chinese. but still if you look around my mate got it for £200 for his first year 3rd party F+T and i got it for £400 for the same.

Only want an auto twist ad go as its nice and simple with no gears ----id barely use a car if i had it and its quite costy but if i had a nice little moped i could get around quick at a fraction of the price plus i can sometimes skip the traffic


Ive had 20 driving lessons and i understand the road etc so im not some chav kid who steals things and rides mopeds with no shoes on like sum person in ibiza
Plus i live in greater london so owning a car seems dumb with the traffic sometimes
#34
dandoc2
....im not some chav kid who steals things and rides mopeds with no shoes on like sum person in ibiza...



Lololol :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
#35
Whichever scooter you choose, don't be tempted to save on the protective clothing.

I had an accident almost four years ago where I was slowing down to take a corner and the scooter just came away from under me for no apparent reason...no ice, water, oil/diesel and the road surface was fine and crushed everything from my knee downwards on my left leg.

I had thick overalls on (I worked in a warehouse at the time) which stopped the skin being ripped from my leg, safety boots on which stopped my ankle snapping and a decent bike jacket that stopped my elbow, which hit the kerb, from being as bad as my leg.

I ended up being off work for 13 months, I couldn't return to my old job (plus side was, because I work for the Council, they found me an office job in IT), I've had 14 operations including a total knee replacement earlier this year and numerous plastic surgeries to close the wound after everything was pinned and plated back together (photos available on request....pretty gory though) and I'm now registered disabled and can't walk without a stick.

All for the sake of a 10mph fall. The Irony is, if I had been going slightly faster, the scooter (Gilera Runner 125SP) would have slid from under me and no damage would have happened.
However, it would have been much worse if I hadn't been wearing the gear I had on at the time.

Still, if I could get back on one, I would.

Oh, free parking now too, so it's not all bad.
#36
Awww that's awful :-(
#37
izzzzythedog
the cheap chinese bikes are just that ,cheap , poor quality components that have near no life span , the metal making the machines is of such poor quality it wouldnt be fit to go on a european manutactored bike , you pays your money and takes your choice

buying new is to be honest a great way of losing money , a good condition 1 or 2 yr old machine brought froma dealer will be a better bet , another thing to think about is there alot easier to fix as they will have known faults , an example is suzuki and generators ( field windings on the coil over heats and frys the electrics taking out the regulator/rectifier and then the battery , you find out when the bike doesnt start , this is lack of oil that causes this ) , you will fall off it and hopefully not aided by a car , sadly majority of accidents are caused by car drivers inability to look at junctions or use a mirror to change lanes

iceman doesnt work that way at all , small bikes can and will be used off road and also are in much more demand for parts soare vastly more likely to be stolen , they can of course be picked up and into the back of the van easly , type of bike matters , try keeping a kmx125 for more than 10 minutes



ur totaly missing the point buying one of these bikes you arnt expecting it to last 50 years and run faultless for its life, BUT they will last as long as a second hand jap bike. and with all the faults there are common ones that you need to look out for on every bike chinese and japanese, but with the chinese they are much simpler to find and fix as the engines and electrics arnt nearly as complicated.

yeah they may loose money but buying ANY vehicle new you will lose money, if u buy a new jap bike then you willl lose you money, but as they are more expensive you will lose more than a chinese. i dont plan on selling mine as i wont get much for it, but for £900 i couldnt care less if i just break it for parts. or run it till it explodes

and putting a chain on is the main deterant against theifs as most of them are opportunists that see a bike with no chain and just break the steering lock and run. chinese bikes arnt going to be targated to be stolen as people know they arnt worth much second hand.

10bellies
Oh, free parking now too, so it's not all bad.


glad to see your looking on the positive side still sounds very nasty tho.
#38
Can you get a 125cc auto motorbike or is it just mopeds?
#39
You can indeed get a 125 Automatic which you can ride on a CBT.

CBT covers you for two years. Limited to 50cc if your 16 or 125 if your 17 or older.

Buy a decent helmet, gloves, jacket minimum.

Insurance will be expensive as your new. It was for me around £600 when i got a scooter at 16. I'm now 21 riding a 800cc bike.. costing me £100 a year! Go figure. Get the bare minimum of TPF&T from someone like Motorcycle Direct.

Hope this helps.
#40
thornedlily
You can indeed get a 125 Automatic which you can ride on a CBT.

CBT covers you for two years. Limited to 50cc if your 16 or 125 if your 17 or older.

Buy a decent helmet, gloves, jacket minimum.

Insurance will be expensive as your new. It was for me around £600 when i got a scooter at 16. I'm now 21 riding a 800cc bike.. costing me £100 a year! Go figure. Get the bare minimum of TPF&T from someone like Motorcycle Direct.

Hope this helps.

Yeh cheers ---I now know that as im 18 i can ride a 125cc with the cbt so i acn keep up with traffic -- i did an insurance quoteand with fire n theft its like £400 ---full comp is like £900 but sod that

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