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7y, 3m agoPosted 7 years, 3 months ago
Hello!

i need some advice.. im usually pretty good with computers... but i have not read up too much on RAM. I have some basic 3gb ram at the moment and realy want to upgrade it in preperation for my 64bit windows 7 installation.

I have a dell xps 420. Which was a bad decision.. as i realise that i cant actually overclock anything due to dell keeping their bios settings very basic.

So bearing in mind that i cant actually overclock any of the ram that i buy.. or tinker with the voltage to get it to work.

What would be the best set of RAM to buy for my machine?

i am looking to get 4gb (2x2gb sticks).. and aspend around £50. I THINK that xps 420 motherboard supports DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 memory...

BIG thank you. in advance. for anyone that has bothered to help out!
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7y, 3m agoPosted 7 years, 3 months ago
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#1
3GB is fine?
It wouldnt be much difference between you adding a 2GB and taking out the single 1GB now, than adding a brand new 2x2 kit.
of course the kit will be preferred as they are same modules etc but tbh it will be cheaper and find in terms of performance to just add a one 2GB stick (any brand really, i recommend corsair, kingston, OCZ or crucial)
1 Like #2
the guy above is spot on. i'm running 7 now on 2gb and its speedtastic. 3gb is more than enough i wouldn't waste the money to go for an extra gb.
#3
hmm. You guys have a point. My set up currently is 2x1gb sticks.. and 2x512 sticks.. im running vista home premium right now.. and its a little bit slow. Would it be worth investing in replacing the 512 sticks with 1gb each.. or would it not make much difference?

initially was thinking of replacing thge 512's with the 2x2gb sticks.. and end up with 6gb in total... that would keep it running nice and fast for ages...

would do you guys think?
#4
Its totally optional but one of the main reasons Windows 7 is being released to replace Vista, is because Vista takes up far too much resources (ram etc ) than it should, and if you are running the Windows 7 RC (I am ) You will realise, its a LOT faster than Vista.

I dont think yo NEED to upgrade, it will be more than fine with these settings.
I personally would leave it, cant justify spending ~£40 for no real gain :)
#5
thanks for you advice.. im going to take it. rep for you.
1 Like #6
Rather than upgrading the ram, invest in a new hard drive. I don't know which make/model Dell ship by default, but I am sure it's going to be a budget one.

The difference was seriously amazing, when I upgraded my set of 4year old Seagate drives to a pair of Samsung F1s. Everything seemed so much more responsive.
1 Like #7
I agree with the above, i am running Win7 on my 1.6GHz Celeron laptop with 2gb RAM and it runs well, currently have Firefox, LightRoom and VLC player running and it runs well.

To replace 3gb with 4gb just for 7 would be madness, as SUMMONER says i would add another Hard Drive
1 Like #8
I have a XPS 420 and it's a great machine, I love mine! It came with 2gb of RAM which I thought was fine but if I did ALT-TAB between a game like BF2 and the desktop there was a delay and lots of disk thrashing. Even quitting BF2 took about 30 seconds before the machine became usable.

This all changed when I added an extra 2gb of RAM as it's made a big difference to the overall performance of the PC. Yes, I know I can't use all 4gb of RAM on 32bit Vista (Or W7 when my DVD arrives next week!) but the extra RAM that the PC can see has given my PC a real boost.

I've just run a SiSIFT SANDRA check and the RAM I have in mine is:

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 8GB
Bank 1 - DIMM_1 : Hynix (Hyundai) HYMP112U64CP8-S6 00003008 010751 DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 2 - DIMM_3 : Crucial BL12864AA80A.8FE5 8601481A 00FFFF DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 3 - DIMM_2 : Hynix (Hyundai) HYMP112U64CP8-S6 00004031 010751 DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 4 - DIMM_4 : Crucial BL12864AA80A.8FE5 8463DB2D 00FFFF DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz

The Hynix is what came with the PC, the Crucial is the 2gb I added earlier this year. I've also installed a 1TB Samsung drive for my media.

Hope this helps.
#9
Q-Tec
I have a XPS 420 and it's a great machine, I love mine! It came with 2gb of RAM which I thought was fine but if I did ALT-TAB between a game like BF2 and the desktop there was a delay and lots of disk thrashing. Even quitting BF2 took about 30 seconds before the machine became usable.

This all changed when I added an extra 2gb of RAM as it's made a big difference to the overall performance of the PC. Yes, I know I can't use all 4gb of RAM on 32bit Vista (Or W7 when my DVD arrives next week!) but the extra RAM that the PC can see has given my PC a real boost.

I've just run a SiSIFT SANDRA check and the RAM I have in mine is:

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 8GB
Bank 1 - DIMM_1 : Hynix (Hyundai) HYMP112U64CP8-S6 00003008 010751 DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 2 - DIMM_3 : Crucial BL12864AA80A.8FE5 8601481A 00FFFF DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 3 - DIMM_2 : Hynix (Hyundai) HYMP112U64CP8-S6 00004031 010751 DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz
Bank 4 - DIMM_4 : Crucial BL12864AA80A.8FE5 8463DB2D 00FFFF DIMM Synchronous DDR2 1GB/64 @ 667MHz

The Hynix is what came with the PC, the Crucial is the 2gb I added earlier this year. I've also installed a 1TB Samsung drive for my media.

Hope this helps.


Thanks dude. i really do like the system.. it just sucks that they didnt give us a proper bios set up. atleast then you could get you rmemory to run at 800mhz like its suppose to!

I think i might just get another 2gb of ram. and get a ssd harddrive as a boot drive.. and upgrdae the standard harddrives to some western digital caviar blacks.

but thats all going ot cost loads.. so im gonna start with the ram... anyways... thanks for your advice everyone... im just gonna stick some crucial ram in it and it should work!

will rep you all.
#10
I used the tool on the Crucial site which suggested these sticks, give it whirl on yours to make sure you get the right stuff.

As for the hard drives, there are 2 x 3.5 in bays at the bottom of the 420, both of which are used on mine now. I guess you could remove one of the optical drives to install another?
#11
How did you get the si software thing to work... every time i go to show hardware information and go to overview.. everything just freezes! has to restart like 3 times... same thing everytime.

do you reckon this is compatible with our systems?

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/2161/1428/-/8142665/Kingston-KHX6400D2BK2-4G-Hyper-X-Limited-Edition-4GB-800MHz-DDR2-Dual-Channel-Kit-Computer-Memory/Product.html?searchtype=genre&P36=GNH4TX

as for the harddrives.. i plan to replace those two at the bottom. and stick an ssd at the bay just above the memory card reader..
1 Like #12
Frankenstein;6594051
How did you get the si software thing to work... every time i go to show hardware information and go to overview.. everything just freezes! has to restart like 3 times... same thing everytime.

do you reckon this is compatible with our systems?

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/2161/1428/-/8142665/Kingston-KHX6400D2BK2-4G-Hyper-X-Limited-Edition-4GB-800MHz-DDR2-Dual-Channel-Kit-Computer-Memory/Product.html?searchtype=genre&P36=GNH4TX

as for the harddrives.. i plan to replace those two at the bottom. and stick an ssd at the bay just above the memory card reader..

Try CPU-Z use SPD tab for Memory type/make installed on your computer :thumbsup:
#13
Maybe you've got a duff install of Sandra? Try removing your current install and downloading a new one ... or CPU-Z as Boogie has suggested.

SSD for the boot drive eh? ... Now that's got me thinking!
#14
Boogie83e
Try CPU-Z use SPD tab for Memory type/make installed on your computer :thumbsup:


thanks dude.. worked perfectly! rep is on its way.
#15
Q-Tec
Maybe you've got a duff install of Sandra? Try removing your current install and downloading a new one ... or CPU-Z as Boogie has suggested.

SSD for the boot drive eh? ... Now that's got me thinking!


yup.. think about it harddrives are usually the slowest components of a computer... thats certainly the case in our systems.. so if we install the os/most programs on an ssd... everything should be a lot faster! the only problem is that they are still pretty expensive...

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