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Can i claim back Childcare for next weeks Teachers strike ???

curtlyb Avatar
8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
Just a thought on which people might want to have their viewpoint.....
I'm contemplating sending my LEA an invoice for the cost of childcare for next weeks one day teachers strike, i've been given only six days official notice, can't now book time off work (need seven days) and am thoroughly peeved that it's going to cost me £60. Does anyone know if there is a duty by the LEA to provide education ?????

Any thoughts ????
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
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#1
our primary will be open but high school not-im ok as home anyway but sorry for guys like you who it costs money and hassle. I dont know what id have done a few years ago with 4 kids and working...
#2
I'm at school :( Boo
1 Like #3
it is frustrating but i dotn think there is anythign you can do.
#4
Well worth a try, nothing ventured nothing gained and all that
#5
Could be an interesting topic for your local radio or tv station. If they did a story it could snowball and the LEA could get lots and lots of invoices. Would definitely put the education minister on the line

or maybe they would suggest sueing the actual teachers that are striking
#6
how do you know which schools are effected?

son isnt back till tues.... its a private school... so would that not be included?
#7
Problem is it's not the LEA that are striking, its the NUT. I'd still give them a call and see what they can do for you.
1 Like #8
faiza1
how do you know which schools are effected?

son isnt back till tues.... its a private school... so would that not be included?


Schools generally send out a letter, ours have today. About half of the classes are cancelled.

I reckon, bearing in mind they haven't got to pay the teachers wages for the day, that they should reimburse some of the fees..... going to give it a try ;-)
1 Like #9
emasu
I'm at school :( Boo


Me too!! Boo here as well, don't even gain a free!


I'm thinking that there is a duty of the LEA to provide education, but not child-care. Why not see if you can band together with other affected parents to work something out??
#10
chesso
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I'm thinking that there is a duty of the LEA to provide education, but not child-care. Why not see if you can band together with other affected parents to work something out??


Sounds like plan, i appreciate your input :thumbsup:
#11
I olnly found out today that my daughters teacher (Along with 4 others) will be striking on thurs. Then the next Thurs the school is shut do to it being used as a polling station!
#12
emasu
I'm at school :( Boo


I'm off college.:thumbsup:
#13
t0mm;1921509
I'm off college.:thumbsup:


I get wednesday off for a training day :p

I've got my spanish oral on friday though :(
#14
lerryn
I olnly found out today that my daughters teacher (Along with 4 others) will be striking on thurs. Then the next Thurs the school is shut do to it being used as a polling station!


This makes me laugh! They don't let you take your child out of school for a family holiday (which I personally feel that family holidays are educational no matter where you go) but they can shut the school down because they want more pay. I want more pay so I can afford to holiday during the school hols. Think I might go on strike!

This is my picket line Do not cross
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#15
cassieismydoggie
This makes me laugh! They don't let you take your child out of school for a family holiday (which I personally feel that family holidays are educational no matter where you go) but they can shut the school down because they want more pay. I want more pay so I can afford to holiday during the school hols. Think I might go on strike!

This is my picket line Do not cross
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lol thats funny :)
In all fairness though, there are many sides to every argument.
#16
cassieismydoggie
This makes me laugh! They don't let you take your child out of school for a family holiday (which I personally feel that family holidays are educational no matter where you go) but they can shut the school down because they want more pay. I want more pay so I can afford to holiday during the school hols. Think I might go on strike!

This is my picket line Do not cross
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:):):):)

I've got a two way plan.......... anyone care to join me ?

1) Drop the kids off at school on the 24th as normal and walk away :whistling:

2) Arrange for selective 'educational' days out during the Sats week, selecting the most intelligent kids for these days out and barring the strugglers would have maximum impact..... Cat amongst the pigeons etc etc
#17
bellabonkers
lol thats funny :)
In all fairness though, there are many sides to every argument.


Yes, there are many sides to a round argument :? and this is mine.
We havent had a holiday for 12 years and have booked to go to Spain for a week this year. My girl works well at school, has no time off sick and is a good all round pupil (doesn't take after me:-D) We avoided sats week (I don't agree with them either - but that's another story). Anyway, my letter came back as unauthorised. Doesn't matter really, cause it's already booked and we are going. Just think its unfair to use the excuse that "your childs education is important" when the next minute they go on strike!
They'll be after more holiday next:whistling:

Rant over (sorry folks)
#18
2) Arrange for selective 'educational' days out during the Sats week, selecting the most intelligent kids for these days out and barring the strugglers would have maximum impact..... Cat amongst the pigeons etc etc

marvelous idea!!

Back to original topic - I am very lucky in the fact that my daughter has a lovely Grandma who is willing look after her on school holidays etc.
#19
Now a three way plan.............

3) Blockade the ports of Dover, & Portsmouth on Saturday 26th July :thumbsup::thumbsup:
#20
cassieismydoggie
Yes, there are many sides to a round argument :? and this is mine.
We havent had a holiday for 12 years and have booked to go to Spain for a week this year. My girl works well at school, has no time off sick and is a good all round pupil (doesn't take after me:-D) We avoided sats week (I don't agree with them either - but that's another story). Anyway, my letter came back as unauthorised. Doesn't matter really, cause it's already booked and we are going. Just think its unfair to use the excuse that "your childs education is important" when the next minute they go on strike!
They'll be after more holiday next:whistling:

Rant over (sorry folks)


lol it's ok i can totally see you point. the cost of holidays rocket and it must cost you a small fortune...and no i dont like the idea of sats either.
#21
cassieismydoggie
Yes, there are many sides to a round argument :? and this is mine.
We havent had a holiday for 12 years and have booked to go to Spain for a week this year. My girl works well at school, has no time off sick and is a good all round pupil (doesn't take after me:-D) We avoided sats week (I don't agree with them either - but that's another story). Anyway, my letter came back as unauthorised. Doesn't matter really, cause it's already booked and we are going. Just think its unfair to use the excuse that "your childs education is important" when the next minute they go on strike!
They'll be after more holiday next:whistling:

Rant over (sorry folks)

I am in a teacher's union that is not going on strike and, just for the record, we are working our normal hours. The problem with holidays is that it is the government that make strong recommendations about holidays in term time, not the teachers, whereas it is the teachers that are striking (well one union anyway). As for the 'more holidays' - I will say, yet again, that teachers do not get paid for the school holidays. We are only paid for term time and they spread the pay for term time out over the twelve months of the year. This applies to all teachers, apart from those working on supply, who get paid for the days that they have worked at the end of each month. Also, many teachers, me included, are not in favour of SATs, but we do as we are told. In addition many parents who say they are not in favour of SATs then go on to judge a school on its SATs results!
Many teachers are parents too............
#22
Boooo - sack all teachers!
#23
I have a friend who is a teacher and over the last 2 weeks 'holiday' i know they have gone into work 4 of those days in order to make sure they catch up with all the planning for when the children go back...like i said many sides to every argument
#24
bellabonkers
I have a friend who is a teacher and over the last 2 weeks 'holiday' i know they have gone into work 4 of those days in order to make sure they catch up with all the planning for when the children go back...like i said many sides to every argument

True - we spend a lot of time working after school (unpaid!) and in holidays (unpaid) - also at weekends (unpaid)!
#25
red_dwarfer
Boooo - sack all teachers!


:):):)


I have a friend who is a head teacher and made sure that a teacher training day was planned for a Friday before a bank holiday to ensure a golf weekend with three other members of staff took place :whistling:
Ho hum

To be fair, this post wasn't mean't to be about the justification of strike action.... just the implications ;-)
#26
curtlyb
:):):)


I have a friend who is a head teacher and made sure that a teacher training day was planned for a Friday before a bank holiday to ensure a golf weekend with three other members of staff took place :whistling:
Ho hum

To be fair, this post wasn't mean't to be about the justification of strike action.... just the implications ;-)

But surely what they do with a bank holiday is up to them? The only way to have a training day and not actually work it is if the staff do twilights to make up the time for that day. There is no way of just 'bunking off' and gaining the time for free. The strike action has implications for many teachers also, in their role as parents, and it is only one union who are striking.
#27
Susannah
True - we spend a lot of time working after school (unpaid!) and in holidays (unpaid) - also at weekends (unpaid)!


Not many 'staff' jobs with responsibility have set hours these days, most people get paid to do the job, whatever it takes. It's not job justification time :-D

I must admit i had a sly chuckle at your description of not being paid for holidays but the LEA kindly paying you over twelve months..... ;-)

Good luck with the pay negotiations though, preferably with the least amount of disruption :thumbsup:
#28
Susannah
But surely what they do with a bank holiday is up to them?


Thats the point, the staff day was the friday spent on the golf course and i can categorically confirm that it wasn't banked time.... anyway, i have no problem with doing it if they can get away with it..... my problem was more with my mates attitude as a headteacher
#29
Send your invoice to the NUT get them to pay it. Unions are just legalised blackmailers. People take on a job knowing what the salary is - if you don't like the rate of pay don't take the job.
#30
I work in a school and I've gotta say most of the teachers there don't deserve any form of pay rise and don't even deserve what they get at the moment!

As you can probably tell I've taken a dislike to them...
#31
curtlyb
Thats the point, the staff day was the friday spent on the golf course and i can categorically confirm that it wasn't banked time.... anyway, i have no problem with doing it if they can get away with it..... my problem was more with my mates attitude as a headteacher

I'd love to know what school that was! Makes me mad that there is a school somewhere that is doing that. I'd like to see the paperwork and the details given to the governors. I agree the friend's attitude stinks and does the profession no good at all.
#32
curtlyb
Not many 'staff' jobs with responsibility have set hours these days, most people get paid to do the job, whatever it takes. It's not job justification time :-D

I must admit i had a sly chuckle at your description of not being paid for holidays but the LEA kindly paying you over twelve months..... ;-)

Good luck with the pay negotiations though, preferably with the least amount of disruption :thumbsup:


It just make me angry that most people presume we get paid for 52 weeks when we only get paid for 39.
#33
red_dwarfer
I work in a school and I've gotta say most of the teachers there don't deserve any form of pay rise and don't even deserve what they get at the moment!

As you can probably tell I've taken a dislike to them...

Maybe you should try teaching. It always seems odd to me that many people criticise teachers - the holidays are too long/too much money etc., yet there is a shortage. Also, I've never met a critic that wanted to do the job. The standard reply when I say "You go do it then," is usually along the lines of "Oh, no I coudn't possibly do that - all those kids etc. etc" In all situations I think that no-one should criticise what someone else does unless they can do better and can prove it! As for the poor standard of teaching that you appear to refer to - maybe they should pay more to get better! Don't you agree?
#34
sn0ttyang3l
Send your invoice to the NUT get them to pay it. Unions are just legalised blackmailers. People take on a job knowing what the salary is - if you don't like the rate of pay don't take the job.

and wouldn't we be in a mess then?
1 Like #35
I'm gonna have to stop reading this thread! :)
#36
Susannah
I'm gonna have to stop reading this thread! :)


breathe deeply, count to ten lol
#37
Susannah;1923971
Maybe you should try teaching. It always seems odd to me that many people criticise teachers - the holidays are too long/too much money etc., yet there is a shortage. Also, I've never met a critic that wanted to do the job. The standard reply when I say "You go do it then," is usually along the lines of "Oh, no I coudn't possibly do that - all those kids etc. etc" In all situations I think that no-one should criticise what someone else does unless they can do better and can prove it! As for the poor standard of teaching that you appear to refer to - maybe they should pay more to get better! Don't you agree?


Hell No - You speak like a typical teacher. I see so many teachers that just turn up just to get paid and show no skills on how to progress up the chain. We have 2 ICT teachers who actually know nothing about computers - one of them actually asked me to teach him Dreamweaver and Fireworks because he had to teach it in his class! - And these are people that deserve a more money!? After every half term or summer holiday (After they all get back tanned) I will ask teachers how much time they devoted to planning lessons etc and (especially on half terms) most of them say "ow i did it all last night"...

No matter what people say I think teachers should stop moaning and get on with it...
banned#38
bellabonkers
Problem is it's not the LEA that are striking, its the NUT.


That might be what they will say, but thats for them to take up with the NUT. Its the LEA that has the responsibility for schooling, not the NUT! (And they would probably pass the buck to the school itself!)

However, this will get nowhere. How many have had to do something at short notice? eg no heating, polling, ill heath etc.

Good luck though, but think its doomed to failure without court action - and even then result probably not ther one you'd want!
banned#39
red_dwarfer
Hell No - You speak like a typical teacher. I see so many teachers that just turn up just to get paid and show no skills on how to progress up the chain. We have 2 ICT teachers who actually know nothing about computers - one of them actually asked me to teach him Dreamweaver and Fireworks because he had to teach it in his class! - And these are people that deserve a more money!? After every half term or summer holiday (After they all get back tanned) I will ask teachers how much time they devoted to planning lessons etc and (especially on half terms) most of them say "ow i did it all last night"...

No matter what people say I think teachers should stop moaning and get on with it...


Have to agree with most of what you say. It makes me laugh when I hear comments about "only being paid for 39 weeks". Simply not true. Teachers are paid an annual salary. If they want to say they only get paid for working 39 weeks, then for those 39 weeks, they are very well paid. Would be nice to be able to have that much time off or use the time to boost income by working the further 9 weeks like the rest of us have to.
banned#40
Paid for 39 weeks of the year, didnt realise our kids got 12 weeks off school per year

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