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Can I list 'this' product for sale in HUKD?

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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
Hello,

I am planning to buy few products from Apple Store (Online) using Promo and I want to sell one product which I don't need (iPod Touch 8GB/16GB) but here is the deal I want to post on HUKD:

I want to sell the iPod Touch 8GB (or) 16GB (obviously cheaper than the RRP) with "Free Laser Engraving" that Apple offers for users who shop Online. I thought this would just make the buyer happy by getting his/her iPod Touch (choose between 8GB or 16GB) with Free Laser Engraving as a little extra add-on.

All I want to know if the Moderators allow me to make such listing on For Sale/Trade? I can post snaps for HUKD user who confirms buying at BIN price once I have received my order from Apple. I just want to give the buyer a choice between 8GB and 16GB (price differs for both models!) with Free Laser Engraving.

Can someone comment if this would be a cool way to go by or it's just making things complicated? I hope I am allowed to do so...!

Cheers :-D
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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#1
* Selling items on behalf of a third party is not permitted, the item[s] must belong to you and be in your possession.

im guna guess no...
#2
cannot sell an item that is not in your possession,just buy it without engraving(worthless imo) then put it up for sale
#3
don't see why not but you'll have to get this thread locked by a mod first then wait a full 7 days before relisting in fs/ft.

edit: seems not but you'll still have to get this thread locked etc to list when you get the item.
#4
lilsmithy
* Selling items on behalf of a third party is not permitted, the item[s] must belong to you and be in your possession.

im guna guess no...


boothy
cannot sell an item that is not in your possession,just buy it without engraving(worthless imo) then put it up for sale


Thanks guys for Instant feedback. Engraving could be worthless for a few but for others who want to get it at cheaper price or probably gift it someone.. that could make it worth at no extra cost. And option of getting 8GB or 16GB at cheaper price also makes more sense (if you know what I mean).

Another feedback: can you suggest me a price to sell iPod Touch 8GB / 16GB? Obviously the new one's that on sale at Apple UK Site (I guess they are 2nd Generation).

Cheers :oops:
banned#5
as it is free, the mods may pull it, im assuming you are referring to the free one for students who purches an apple mac, or whatever there called
#6
check the internet for the cheapest price,knock 10-15% off that and you have got a rough guideline.

whatever you do the item has to be in your possession,no other option
#7
sassie
as it is free, the mods may pull it, im assuming you are referring to the free one for students who purches an apple mac, or whatever there called


unlikely as a normal RRP is available and it cannot be bought without purchase of a mac,so not really free
banned#8
boothy
unlikely as a normal RRP is available and it cannot be bought without purchase of a mac,so not really free


i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free
#9
sassie
i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free


reported to mods for clarification
#10
sassie
i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free


thats nuts does that mean everything you get "free" in a say xbox 360 bundle is banned from the fs/ft forum?
#11
sassie
i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free


You have to pay 800 odd for a macbook :roll:
#12
sassie
i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free


don't think that is right tbh
banned#13
ants97
thats nuts does that mean everything you get "free" in a say xbox 360 bundle is banned from the fs/ft forum?


if you declare it like the op has done, it appears so, i aksed a mod before lsiting, and was told i could not swap it, even though i wanted to swap for a same priced game
#14
sassie
as it is free, the mods may pull it, im assuming you are referring to the free one for students who purches an apple mac, or whatever there called


Its not free.. I have to pay full RRP and only claim the later by Online Rebate.. so in reality I am paying for the product (with Invoice) and claiming the rebate later on. I don't think this make the product free and considering the fact its only available for students and not on Mac Mini lines.. you need to spend 100's of £ before you can be eligible for rebate. Correct me if I am wrong.

Cheers
#15
sassie
if you declare it like the op has done, it appears so, i aksed a mod before lsiting, and was told i could not swap it, even though i wanted to swap for a same priced game


what about if I am given something as a gift,as I would never have paid for it?
banned#16
I am only passing on what i was told, i am sure a mod will be able to either tell you i am wrong or i am right
#17
lilsmithy;5596515
* Selling items on behalf of a third party is not permitted, the item[s] must belong to you and be in your possession.

im guna guess no...


boothy;5596516
cannot sell an item that is not in your possession,just buy it without engraving(worthless imo) then put it up for sale


puls3;5596536
Thanks guys for Instant feedback. Engraving could be worthless for a few but for others who want to get it at cheaper price or probably gift it someone.. that could make it worth at no extra cost. And option of getting 8GB or 16GB at cheaper price also makes more sense (if you know what I mean).

Another feedback: can you suggest me a price to sell iPod Touch 8GB / 16GB? Obviously the new one's that on sale at Apple UK Site (I guess they are 2nd Generation).

Cheers :oops:


sassie;5596547
as it is free, the mods may pull it, im assuming you are referring to the free one for students who purches an apple mac, or whatever there called


boothy;5596563
unlikely as a normal RRP is available and it cannot be bought without purchase of a mac,so not really free


sassie;5596567
i got a free wii game with the wii fit, i wanted to swap it for another game, i wasnt allowed as it was classed as free

Yes the items must be in your possession and no we don't allow profiteering, which this would be as the iPods are part of a promotion that originally makes them technically free.

Sorry about that.
#18
sassie
I am only passing on what i was told, i am sure a mod will be able to either tell you i am wrong or i am right


Wii fit and the game that comes with it, is different

:roll:
#19
sassie
I am only passing on what i was told, i am sure a mod will be able to either tell you i am wrong or i am right


I have a proper Invoice for the product I bought (paying ££'s) which makes me eligible for the listing.
banned#20
In order to get the relate you have to open the "free gift" as well. Sly tactic so that they can't be sold as "sealed".
#21
rayman
Yes the items must be in your possession and no we don't allow profiteering, which this would be as the iPods are part of a promotion that originally makes them technically free.

Sorry about that.


another grey area........
banned#22
strike
Wii fit and the game that comes with it, is different

:roll:


it was a free game, not the wii fit game :roll:
#23
puls3
I have a proper Invoice for the product I bought (paying ££'s) which makes me eligible for the listing.


unfortunately not,a decision has been made,suggest you PM rayman if you need clarification
#24
rayman
Yes the items must be in your possession and no we don't allow profiteering, which this would be as the iPods are part of a promotion that originally makes them technically free.

Sorry about that.



so how does that work for say bundle copies of games, surely they should be banned as that would also be classed as "profiteering"?
banned#25
ants97
so how does that work for say bundle copies of games, surely they should be banned as that would also be classed as "profiteering"?


you dont put in the listing it came as part of a bundle - lol
#26
rayman
Yes the items must be in your possession and no we don't allow profiteering, which this would be as the iPods are part of a promotion that originally makes them technically free.

Sorry about that.


What if someone (probably an employee) of a company 'X' got a product through some rebate and sold the product here in HUKD (less than RRP) but still making a profit (due to the rebate promo)? How can you calssify or figure out if he got that FREE?

What if I purchase from Apple and don't claim the rebate.. how do you even know I claimed one :-D? I have been generous to explain I am getting the iPod Touch via the promotion but what about many others there? I am only buying iPod Touch so I can knock my apple mac price off (expensive when you're a student).

Cheers
banned#27
puls3
What if someone (probably an employee) of a company 'X' got a product through some rebate and sold the product here in HUKD (less than RRP) but still making a profit (due to the rebate promo)? How can you calssify or figure out if he got that FREE?

What if I purchase from Apple and don't claim the rebate.. how do you even know I claimed one :-D? I have been generous to explain I am getting the iPod Touch via the promotion but what about many others there? I am only buying iPod Touch so I can knock my apple mac price off (expensive when you're a student).

Cheers


because you just told us, the mods can only pull when it is in the listing, or in here like you have just done, future ref, say nothing ;-)
#28
puls3
What if someone (probably an employee) of a company 'X' got a product through some rebate and sold the product here in HUKD (less than RRP) but still making a profit (due to the rebate promo)? How can you calssify or figure out if he got that FREE?

What if I purchase from Apple and don't claim the rebate.. how do you even know I claimed one :-D? I have been generous to explain I am getting the iPod Touch via the promotion but what about many others there? I am only buying iPod Touch so I can knock my apple mac price off (expensive when you're a student).

Cheers


PM the mod,only they can really help you,everything else is speculation
#29
sassie
you dont put in the listing it came as part of a bundle - lol


yep but some actually say it on the box or were only available in bundles such as kungfu panda/lego indy jones packs, gears of war 1& 2 packs etc all of which have been sold on here regulary.
banned#30
ants97
yep but some actually say it on the box or were only available in bundles such as kungfu panda/lego indy jones packs, gears of war 1& 2 packs etc all of which have been sold on here regulary.


the thing is the op has said this item is a free product, as my game was a free product, i did say i purchased the game and got the wii fit free, but it wouldnt work - lol
#31
When i did this when i bought my Macbook Pro, i got a free (rebate) for a Ipod nano, I had to cut out the barcode bit of the Macbook box and send it off - cant remember if i had to do that with the nano too (Think i may have) So you might have to use the box as part of the rebate when sending in the proof they need :)
#32
sassie
the thing is the op has said this item is a free product, as my game was a free product, i did say i purchased the game and got the wii fit free, but it wouldnt work - lol


I never it was a free product? I only said I am buying free products through promo! :roll:
#33
krazykel
When i did this when i bought my Macbook Pro, i got a free (rebate) for a Ipod nano, I had to cut out the barcode bit of the Macbook box and send it off - cant remember if i had to do that with the nano too (Think i may have) So you might have to use the box as part of the rebate when sending in the proof they need :)


Nope, you don't need. This an Online Rebate Promo.. you make claim online not through Postal.

Cheers
banned#34
puls3
I never it was a free product? I only said I am buying free products through promo! :roll:


well we all know it is the free promo for an ipod, was just trying to help stop you getting your lsiting pulled, sorry i opened my mouth now - lol
#35
I have PM'd rayman but I would also like to make my message public:

And I also wanted to know if what you have said (rules/policy) are in place at HUKD Fore Sale/Trade section, what about users who sell brand new DVD's/CD's/Blu-Ray's/Games that they get FREE when purchasing a product. I have seen many seling them here on HUKD.. if I am not allowed to sell my product due to the fact I got it via promo how can they?

Can you make this clear for me? I am in now way making profit.. I am a student.. and to ge my apple mac cheaper.. I am trying to buy a iPod Touch and sell it so I can bring my price down on apple products.

What about people who sell their products who have claimed from Insurance and Upgrade.. everything in my opinion is FREE as they don't pay anything.. probably yes. a small FEE. I pay £20 if I purchased 8GB version and £69 if I went for the 16GB version or £143 for 32GB.. so honestly nothing is FREE... we are still paying a small portion.


Any comments anyone?
#36
puls3
I have PM'd rayman but I would also like to make my message public:



Any comments anyone?


Wait for a response,you are going about this the wrong way now and will get yourself in trouble
#37
sassie
the thing is the op has said this item is a free product, as my game was a free product, i did say i purchased the game and got the wii fit free, but it wouldnt work - lol


for me there is no difference from what the op is doing and what happens contsantly on the fs/ft ie people buy an ps3 xbox etc and then sell off the stuff/ games they got as part of the bundle.
#38
puls3
Nope, you don't need. This an Online Rebate Promo.. you make claim online not through Postal.

Cheers


I thought you had to do both?

Heres is the T's&C's

# To redeem under this offer Qualifying Education Customers must;

1. Submit the claim online at [url]www.apple.com/uk/promo[/url] ; AND
2. Mail the printed online claim output with a proof-of-purchase consisting of a copy of an Apple Retail Receipt or Online Apple Store Invoice or Shipping Confirmation. Order acknowledgments, packing slips or purchase orders will not be accepted. AND;
3. Return the EAN Bar Code labels from the Apple product boxes with (i) and (ii) above.

https://input.media.euro.apple.com/uk/programmes/backtoschool/terms.html
#39
ants97
for me there is no difference from what the op is doing and what happens contsantly on the fs/ft ie people buy an ps3 xbox etc and then sell off the stuff/ games they got as part of the bundle.


+1

could be the same a free mobile upgrade as well.....
#40
sassie
well we all know it is the free promo for an ipod, was just trying to help stop you getting your lsiting pulled, sorry i opened my mouth now - lol


That's alright mate! I just wanted to know the open feedback. Cheers.

Again.. I would never call the promotion FREE! You can claim a rebate £145 (Maximum) for any iPod's purchased. Few iPod's have only £90 rebate though. Apple never advertised FREE either, in reality you pay something even when you get it via Promo.

iPod Touch 8GB £20*
iPod Touch 16GB £69*
iPod Touch 32GB £143*

* if bought using Promo.

Just to make it clear.. its ain't FREE!

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