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Can people advise on my proposed PC Build?

kristianity77 Avatar
8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
I set myself a target of about 500 pounds to build a new pc. It doesnt need to be able to play the latest games (ie Crysis) but would like it to run the last gen of games (ie Doom 3, Quake 4, Far Cry etc) almost flawlessly. Here is what i have looked at getting so far. If anyone can suggest alternatives im open to ideas!!

Gigabyte motherboard GA-P31-DS3L
Intel CPU Pentium DualCore E2160
Gigabyte GF 8800GT SLI 256MB DDR3, PCI-E, DVI, HDTV Out, Retail
Hanns-G 19" TFT LCD monitor HQ191DP 5ms
Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE16 SATA II 300 7200rpm 16MB cache Hard Disk
Pioneer DVD DVR-115DBK Black 20X +/-R/RW DL IDE OEM
OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1024) Platinum Series DDR2 PC6400 800MHz Dual Channel Memory
Atrix 9001B34 Silver / Black Gaming case 520W mesh side window 12cm neon fan
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

This totals including deliery about £485 pounds altogether. I realise the E2160 isnt the best CPU but my intention was to overclock it out of the box to the 3GHZ mark (maybe above) to compensate.

Anyways, will this do the job, and if not can anyone suggest a better option for the same price?

Cheers, Kris
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
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#1
I Personally id go for asus over gigabyte (just after a bad experience with a gb board) never had one fail out of approx 100. but that board looks good on paper check cpu compatibility as there are warnings posted on misco
overclockability is not guaranteed, sure it works on some but not all, so dont count on it
plus youve left out the cost of an os, i really wouldnt want to trust a hackers code at the core of my os to disable the activation and to not post out my credit card details to all and sundry.
no experience of those monitors
many fancy cases come with cheap and nasty psus, get the coolermaster centurion and psu deal from ebuyer that was on here
from what ive heard the 8800 gt is far too much a midlle-land card not really good at much (not poor either) but also not worth the money, try the ati 3850 but get a decent make,, gigabyte or asus maybe?
#2
Spend the extra to get a Core 2 Duo.

A 500gb HD wouldn't be much more expensive, probably worth getting one if you're likely to need the space in the future.

I'd recommend the Antec Sonata 3 case - Very easy case for a build, quiet and a very good PSU. (£70 at ebuyer)

I'd also recommend a SATA DVD drive, just makes things tidier and is slightly easier to install than IDE.
#3
ok thanks for the answers so far. I must be wrong about the 8800GT then. I was led to believe that for the price (£130 ish im getting it for) it was a very very good card, is this wrong then?

The PC i have now only has a 120 gig drive and its rare i fill that. My hard drive only usually has on it a couple of games, mostly MP3s and a few downloads scattered here and there so i think 250 is enough in that respect.

With regards to the case and PSU, im open for debate on this, as im not totally clued up. I didnt think that this system was a guzzler in terms of power, so i wasnt sure what to plump for
#4
8800GT IS a very good card in it's price range. I would go for that - not seen them as low as £130 though.
#5
Microdirect do the one i have on my list for £113 excluding Vat
#6
Tomshardware: "The 8800 GT offers incredible Geforce 8800 GTX-class performance at almost half the price. It beats the Radeon 3870 by a notable margin, but it does tend to be a bit more expensive when available. That said, if you have $300 to spend on a graphics card, you can't do better than a nice 8800 GT."

Ah, I was thinking it was a 512MB one. These are around £170.
#7
Yeah i opted for the 256MB one due to the fact that the monitor on my list has a max res of 1280x1024 so wouldnt need a card that can push games out at a higher res than that. And from what ive seen, the 512 version is more or less only better when games are ran at higher than this. is that correct?
#8
if you need to stay to your budget, as above spend the extra on the processor and the hard drive but if you dont need to be able to play the latest games then you wouldnt "need" the 8800 just get an 8600 or something like the ATI 3850.
#9
so then knowing which gmaes id like to play (seems like games from about 18 months ago and older) based on the fact my CPU is costing me 45 pounds and the Video Card 130, what would be a better combination of CPU and Video card for a total of 175 quid, roughly?
#10
Also from toms hardware and in reference to the exact card stated!

"You’ve guessed it; the compromise offered by this 8800 GT 256 MB isn’t that interesting to us, given the numerous cards in this bracket. We continue to recommend three cards: the HD 3850 (256 MB) for those that can’t afford more than $150, the HD 3870 (512 MB) at $200 and the GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB) at $230-250 (don’t spend more than that)."
Of course it was talking bout specific brands like gigabyte not secondary manufacturers
#11
Why don't you post how much each individual component is costing you and maybe we can find you them cheaper, bringing them price down a bit mroe and letting you upgrade some parts :thumbsup:
#12
1 Gigabyte motherboard GA-P31-DS3L Intel P31 Express LGA775 1333 FSB Quad-Core / Core2 Extreme / Co... - Gigabyte motherboard GA-P31-DS3L Intel P31 Express LGA775 1333 FSB Quad-Core / Core2 Extreme / Core2 Duo ATX (MOTGIGP31DS3L) £49.82
1 Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE16 SATA II 300 7200rpm 16MB cache Hard Disk Drive oem (HAR250WESSA... - Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE16 SATA II 300 7200rpm 16MB cache Hard Disk Drive oem (HAR250WESSA7216) £43.01
1 Hanns-G 19" TFT LCD monitor HQ191DP 5ms black DVI & speakers (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty) (M... - Hanns-G 19" TFT LCD monitor HQ191DP 5ms black DVI & speakers (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty) (MON19HGHQ191DP) £99.86
1 Atrix 9001B34 Silver / Black Gaming case 520W mesh side window 12cm neon fan LCD Temp display ATX... - Atrix 9001B34 Silver / Black Gaming case 520W mesh side window 12cm neon fan LCD Temp display ATX (CASUNB9001B34) £56.34
1 Intel CPU Pentium DualCore E2160 2x1.80GHz 800MHz 1Mb LGA775 Retail (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty)... - Intel CPU Pentium DualCore E2160 2x1.80GHz 800MHz 1Mb LGA775 Retail (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty) (CPUIP4775E2160) £45.65
1 Gigabyte GF 8800GT SLI 256MB DDR3, PCI-E, DVI, HDTV Out, Retail (VIDGIGFX88GT256) - Gigabyte GF 8800GT SLI 256MB DDR3, PCI-E, DVI, HDTV Out, Retail (VIDGIGFX88GT256) £133.94

The Ram , DVD Drive and the arctic pro 4 have already been bought

So i have left about 430 pounds to try and get the rest of the pc together and this is (from what i know) the best i could come up with
Cheers, Kris
#13
I think you will either need to spend more on CPU or less on Graphics, It is no use having a great graphics card and not enough processing power, if you want my opinion i think combined you have a good budget there but i think that you should compromise by spending a little more on the cpu and little less on the graphics, i.e. you should spend £80 on the processor and around £100 on graphics, and you may as well get a 500GB HDD for not much more i recommend the samsung spin point one as it is very very quiet, it was posted on here a few days ago for about £60
#14
This system is amply specced for the games you have listed and will be able to perform with more modern games. I played them at full settings on a dual core opteron and a 6800GT.

I think your combination of card and CPU makes sense in the context of wanting to play older games first and foremost. The CPU you choose was still pretty lavish back then and games two years ago were craving graphics rendering power more than CPU. Now they are starting to exploit multicore CPU's more. You leave yourself a good upgrade path if you can afford another hundred or so in a years time for a better CPU - I think things like Q6600 will come down in the course of the year as Intel have a few hot products.

If I was to suggest anything it would be to go cheaper on the case and push another £20 into the CPU. The newer components have less heat output than a couple of years ago so there's less onus on getting a superbly cooled case
#15
Take back my comment about the case hadnt spotted it included the PSU
#16
Those who are slating the CPU are clueless, especially the guy who said get a Core 2 Duo instead.

This is a Core 2 Duo, it is based on the same architecture, it is just slightly cut down, less cache, but they are very good processors.

But I would say go for the e2180, it is just 5 quid more and has a 10x multiplier, will make it much easier to overclock, the e2160 has a 9x and the e2140 an 8x, the higher the multiplier the easier the overclock.

Everything else looks fine, although my choice of card would be the Radeon 3870, in real gaming terms they are very good, better than the 256mb 8800GT and will match the 512mb GT, even beat it at times.

At yyour res it will even play Crysis at decent settings.

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