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Results published today suggest that THC, a chemical component of cannabis, could improve the learning capabilities of rodents. Experts have said the whole new chemical system, called the endocannabi… Read More
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Results published today suggest that THC, a chemical component of cannabis, could improve the learning capabilities of rodents.
Experts have said the whole new chemical system, called the endocannabinoid system could be a ‘potential target for new avenues of research which could include illnesses like dementia’.
Dementia is a set of symptoms which can include memory loss, difficulty problem solving, thinking and can lead to behavioural changes such as a change in temperament or mood but it can affect people in very different ways.
Low doses of THC were administered over a period of 28 days in young - two months old and mature - 12 months old and old 18 months old rodents.
The researchers then tested the mice for their memory and learning skills and found that the older mice had their memory and learning abilities restored to similar levels to the younger mice.

Should you give your granny or grandad a joint to help protect them from this Terrible affliction we all fear so much?
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I've tried it myself and I can safely say it does not boost memory.
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It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.

Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.

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Edited By: Moonwolf1976 on May 09, 2017 02:42
9 Likes #2
I've tried it myself and I can safely say it does not boost memory.
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It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.

Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.
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delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.

One joint a day might suffice to boost the memory of a mouse but that obviously isn't enough for a human brain.

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Edited By: BroonSauce on May 09, 2017 04:12: Can't remember the reason for the edit, sorry.
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no it is not good for you at all and it will not improve your memory or any other aspect of your health or life

However there may be chemicals in the plant that may have some medical benafits, but do not believe the stoners in your life it is not good for you and never will be end of

Also did you know that if you smoke you are statistically less likely to get dementia? so are we all going to start smoking?
#6
no.
3 Likes #7
miles136
no it is not good for you at all and it will not improve your memory or any other aspect of your health or life

However there may be chemicals in the plant that may have some medical benafits, but do not believe the stoners in your life it is not good for you and never will be end of

Also did you know that if you smoke you are statistically less likely to get dementia? so are we all going to start smoking?


Agreed.

The statistics are that way because enough number of smokers die before they get old enough to have dementia.
1 Like #8
Are your granny and grandad rodents??
#9
Results published today by smackheads suggest that THC, a chemical component of cannabis, could improve the learning capabilities of rodents.
#10
delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.
Sounds like they exhibit the traits of children to me......
#11
You will always hear about the supposed health benefits little about the negatives like anxiety, mental health disorder etc.

Yes I've dabbled with it whilst younger stopped around the time I looked everywhere for a lighter....bar the hand it was in
#12
Oh look is it that time of year again for john to do his seasonal pro drugs propaganda thread.

Hmmm as he does it about 4 times a year does that mean summers here and we will finally get some sun? :|
#13
No it is not
#14
That Splinter guy in the Ninja Turtles can probably vouch for it.
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Stoners Unite!!!

Now what were we going to do?

The strains of Skunk these days are nothing like the solid of earlier years. I am unlucky enough not to get hangovers after excessive drinking, have had a fairly regular recreational habit, and tried a joint for the first time in 30 years. The old stuff used to send me to sleep. This stuff made me:
Start to loose the feeling in the tips of my fingers and toes;
It crept up my arms and legs;
I couldn't talk;
I had a heightened awareness of sounds in the room;
The loss of feeling reached my torso and I thought "SH*t", what next.

The stuff that is being sold these days is DANGEROUS.
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If you read it logically, a 'chemical component of cannabis could (COULD) boost memory in old mice'. So a fraction of the components could? What about the other components? What about the cancer from the tobacco you mix with the cannabis?
Another bullship prelude to the 'legalise cannabis' campaign.

Edited By: mrty on May 09, 2017 09:11: grammar corrected.
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There's a reason it's called dope
1 Like #18
I know two people who smoke this stuff daily they are the most forgetful people I know they have the most stupid arguments for almost anything and in general when I go visit them i walk away thinking how do get get though life they are very very lazy. That said on the other hand I have a family member who has seizers everyday and in America drug trials of one the of the chemicals in cannabis has worked wonders with seizures and the 6 or so people in the U.K it's been tried on worked too Iv also read it's helped with some cancer patients how true that is I'm not sure. but let's get it straight we are talking about the plant been used for medical research and turned into prescription drugs. The smoking of it never helped anybody I know of and in fact has turned the two people I know who smoke it into zombies with brain functions of a 5 year old.
#19
I will let you know, I am off to a conference in Vermont next week. Confirmed attendance is unusually high for this years conference.
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getmeone
Stoners Unite!!!

Now what were we going to do?

The strains of Skunk these days are nothing like the solid of earlier years. I am unlucky enough not to get hangovers after excessive drinking, have had a fairly regular recreational habit, and tried a joint for the first time in 30 years. The old stuff used to send me to sleep. This stuff made me:
Start to loose the feeling in the tips of my fingers and toes;
It crept up my arms and legs;
I couldn't talk;
I had a heightened awareness of sounds in the room;
The loss of feeling reached my torso and I thought "SH*t", what next.

The stuff that is being sold these days is DANGEROUS.


What the **** were you smoking? Crack?
#21
I've forgot what was going to say maaaan.
#22
delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.
one a day? I used to work with someone who used to smoke the resin like someone would smoke a cigarette at work, strange thing was he behaved in exactly the same way he always did, I think he was just so used to it it became normalised for him.
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The last time I had a joint must be getting on for 5 months and as you can see I'm not a regular smoker (stoner) but will use it very occasionally for it's medical benefits.

And I remember years ago sitting with my wife who had MS with one of the symptoms being optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve giving her blurred vision and I can't remember the technical term but it also caused the eyes to shake) and I was flicking through Teletext (only the older generation will know what that is) looking for holiday destinations whilst we both shared a joint.

And then she began to read from the Teletext, it was amazing as it was only the cannabis that had helped her find away to see without restrictions - not the neurologist, not the optician, not the GP but a natural substance taken for purely pleasure.

I hate drug addicts and I hate the stoner carp that says it's not dangerous or addictive and that it doesn't lead to harder drugs. It's all down to the individual just like for example coffee - some it gives a boost and is also relaxant others get different benefits or non and some have to increase their daily intake because their body has got used to the benefit/intake.

So for me and my Mrs it has/had it''s benefits but those benefits are weighed up against known knowledge of addiction, effects and the body getting used to the chemicals.

If you smoke it daily because you need to without having a medical benefit (pain relief or similar) then you are a drug addict and you need help.

Would I legalise cannabis hell no - I would go along the route of medical prescriptions allowing it's use (but only in the home) but then we already have issues with doctors prescribing addictive drugs willy-nilly

Edited By: philphil61 on May 09, 2017 09:38
#24
anyway, the post is about research into elements of the drug being used in research into helping other problems like dementia, this was on the news recently, we're not talking about giving people joints to smoke away their days.
A few years back I heard about some research going into ketamine helping those that have been traumatised and on the brink of death, at first reading the headline I thought this can't be how dangerous but when you read between the lines the points are valid
1 Like #25
philphil61
The last time I had a joint must be getting on for 5 months and as you can see I'm not a regular smoker (stoner) but will use it very occasionally for it's medical benefits.
And I remember years ago sitting with my wife who had MS with one of the symptoms being optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve giving her blurred vision and I can't remember the technical term but it also caused the eyes to shake) and I was flicking through Teletext (only the older generation will know what that is) looking for holiday destinations whilst we both shared a joint.
And then she began to read from the Teletext, it was amazing as it was only the cannabis that had helped her find away to see without restrictions - not the neurologist, not the optician, not the GP but a natural substance taken for purely pleasure.
I hate drug addicts and I hate the stoner carp that says it's not dangerous or addictive and that it doesn't lead to harder drugs. It's all down to the individual just like for example coffee - some it gives a boost and is also relaxant others get different benefits or non and some have to increase their daily intake because their body has got used to the benefit/intake.
So for me and my Mrs it has/had it''s benefits but those benefits are weighed up against known knowledge of addiction, effects and the body getting used to the chemicals.
If you smoke it daily because you need to without having a medical benefit (pain relief or similar) then you are a drug addict and you need help.
Would I legalise cannabis hell no - I would go along the route of medical prescriptions allowing it's use (but only in the home) but then we already have issues with doctors prescribing addictive drugs willy-nilly

Why do you smoke it if you don't have an illness/disease it benefits?
#26
slevinkelevra
anyway, the post is about research into elements of the drug being used in research into helping other problems like dementia, this was on the news recently, we're not talking about giving people joints to smoke away their days.
A few years back I heard about some research going into ketamine helping those that have been traumatised and on the brink of death, at first reading the headline I thought this can't be how dangerous but when you read between the lines the points are valid


I guess if you going to look at it that way then yes it has benefits most medicine was first derived from plants also we could make plastics types + fabric and paper even construction materials out of its family member hemp I think the cannabis plant and its family of plants has a lot more uses to give yet as well as helping medically.
#27
cocaine used to be used as an anaesthetic in the dentist in victorian times, a variation of mdma was used to treat people with agoraphobia years ago, not saying it used to work though.
I guess it comes down to use and abuse
#28
dtovey89
philphil61
The last time I had a joint must be getting on for 5 months and as you can see I'm not a regular smoker (stoner) but will use it very occasionally for it's medical benefits.
And I remember years ago sitting with my wife who had MS with one of the symptoms being optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve giving her blurred vision and I can't remember the technical term but it also caused the eyes to shake) and I was flicking through Teletext (only the older generation will know what that is) looking for holiday destinations whilst we both shared a joint.
And then she began to read from the Teletext, it was amazing as it was only the cannabis that had helped her find away to see without restrictions - not the neurologist, not the optician, not the GP but a natural substance taken for purely pleasure.
I hate drug addicts and I hate the stoner carp that says it's not dangerous or addictive and that it doesn't lead to harder drugs. It's all down to the individual just like for example coffee - some it gives a boost and is also relaxant others get different benefits or non and some have to increase their daily intake because their body has got used to the benefit/intake.
So for me and my Mrs it has/had it''s benefits but those benefits are weighed up against known knowledge of addiction, effects and the body getting used to the chemicals.
If you smoke it daily because you need to without having a medical benefit (pain relief or similar) then you are a drug addict and you need help.
Would I legalise cannabis hell no - I would go along the route of medical prescriptions allowing it's use (but only in the home) but then we already have issues with doctors prescribing addictive drugs willy-nilly
Why do you smoke it if you don't have an illness/disease it benefits?

Why do people drink?
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Towelie
dtovey89
philphil61
The last time I had a joint must be getting on for 5 months and as you can see I'm not a regular smoker (stoner) but will use it very occasionally for it's medical benefits.
And I remember years ago sitting with my wife who had MS with one of the symptoms being optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve giving her blurred vision and I can't remember the technical term but it also caused the eyes to shake) and I was flicking through Teletext (only the older generation will know what that is) looking for holiday destinations whilst we both shared a joint.
And then she began to read from the Teletext, it was amazing as it was only the cannabis that had helped her find away to see without restrictions - not the neurologist, not the optician, not the GP but a natural substance taken for purely pleasure.
I hate drug addicts and I hate the stoner carp that says it's not dangerous or addictive and that it doesn't lead to harder drugs. It's all down to the individual just like for example coffee - some it gives a boost and is also relaxant others get different benefits or non and some have to increase their daily intake because their body has got used to the benefit/intake.
So for me and my Mrs it has/had it''s benefits but those benefits are weighed up against known knowledge of addiction, effects and the body getting used to the chemicals.
If you smoke it daily because you need to without having a medical benefit (pain relief or similar) then you are a drug addict and you need help.
Would I legalise cannabis hell no - I would go along the route of medical prescriptions allowing it's use (but only in the home) but then we already have issues with doctors prescribing addictive drugs willy-nilly
Why do you smoke it if you don't have an illness/disease it benefits?
Why do people drink?

I'm not arguing in general.

I'm asking why does Phil smoke it for medical purposes if he does not have a condition that benefits from marijuana use. He rips into stoners and addicts, etc but if he doesn't have a medical condition then he shouldn't really be shooting from the hip.

Apologies if there is a medical condition. From his posts all I can see is that his wife does, not him.
#30
delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.

Do your friends have dementia?
#31
dtovey89
Towelie
dtovey89
philphil61
The last time I had a joint must be getting on for 5 months and as you can see I'm not a regular smoker (stoner) but will use it very occasionally for it's medical benefits.
And I remember years ago sitting with my wife who had MS with one of the symptoms being optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve giving her blurred vision and I can't remember the technical term but it also caused the eyes to shake) and I was flicking through Teletext (only the older generation will know what that is) looking for holiday destinations whilst we both shared a joint.
And then she began to read from the Teletext, it was amazing as it was only the cannabis that had helped her find away to see without restrictions - not the neurologist, not the optician, not the GP but a natural substance taken for purely pleasure.
I hate drug addicts and I hate the stoner carp that says it's not dangerous or addictive and that it doesn't lead to harder drugs. It's all down to the individual just like for example coffee - some it gives a boost and is also relaxant others get different benefits or non and some have to increase their daily intake because their body has got used to the benefit/intake.
So for me and my Mrs it has/had it''s benefits but those benefits are weighed up against known knowledge of addiction, effects and the body getting used to the chemicals.
If you smoke it daily because you need to without having a medical benefit (pain relief or similar) then you are a drug addict and you need help.
Would I legalise cannabis hell no - I would go along the route of medical prescriptions allowing it's use (but only in the home) but then we already have issues with doctors prescribing addictive drugs willy-nilly
Why do you smoke it if you don't have an illness/disease it benefits?
Why do people drink?
I'm not arguing in general.
I'm asking why does Phil smoke it for medical purposes if he does not have a condition that benefits from marijuana use. He rips into stoners and addicts, etc but if he doesn't have a medical condition then he shouldn't really be shooting from the hip.
Apologies if there is a medical condition. From his posts all I can see is that his wife does, not him.

Apologies as I was only skim reading and only picked up on the last part.

Seems a valid question on reflection tbh.
#32
MrsAndMrsChadha
miles136
no it is not good for you at all and it will not improve your memory or any other aspect of your health or life
However there may be chemicals in the plant that may have some medical benafits, but do not believe the stoners in your life it is not good for you and never will be end of
Also did you know that if you smoke you are statistically less likely to get dementia? so are we all going to start smoking?
Agreed.
The statistics are that way because enough number of smokers die before they get old enough to have dementia.

no that was taken into account, nicotine does provide some protection against Dementia if you live long enough
1 Like #33
slevinkelevra
anyway, the post is about research into elements of the drug being used in research into helping other problems like dementia, this was on the news recently, we're not talking about giving people joints to smoke away their days.
A few years back I heard about some research going into ketamine helping those that have been traumatised and on the brink of death, at first reading the headline I thought this can't be how dangerous but when you read between the lines the points are valid

correct, but the stoners are so stoned they think its going to be given free and everyone can just smoke it lol
#34
moneysavingkitten
delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.
Do your friends have dementia?

nope it will be the effect of smoking weed, only a small part of the weed is potential useful
1 Like #35
miles136
moneysavingkitten
delboyd
It's strange. I have 6 friends who regularly do weed. Two of them are lifelong die hards, one joint a day type thing.
Now, explain to me why those exact two friends are the only two friends I have who have to be reminded of everything and are consistently the most forgetful in the group.
Do your friends have dementia?
nope it will be the effect of smoking weed, only a small part of the weed is potential useful

I wasn't asking you Miles.
#36
CBD is the component of the cannabis plant which has been found to have some pain relief from chronic conditions and not THC, I have a chronic condition and use CBD vapes and oils and it does give some relief.

THC is the part of the plant that gets you high
Cannabinoids are the primary chemical compounds produced by the cannabis plant and there are more than 85 identified cannabinoids. Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the most well known cannabinoid produced by the cannabis plant, and is the ONLY psychoactive cannabinoid. Of the 85+ non-psychoactive cannabinoids, Cannabidiol (CBD) is the most widely known.

I use a product called Charlottes Web CBD after falling ill in America and being subscribed it for the rest of my stay. Its not yet subscribed in the UK, but can be purchased online.
#37
Regardless of the results its a gamble as if you start using it you can turn into a waste of space who contribute nothing and just go through life looking for next buzz,,, (never done a drug in my life apart from alcohol and over the counter
#38
whelan189
Regardless of the results its a gamble as if you start using it you can turn into a waste of space who contribute nothing and just go through life looking for next buzz,,, (never done a drug in my life apart from alcohol and over the counter

Or you could take some first hand evidence rather than the fear mongering spread in the mainstream media.

I had a job interview the other day, job on offer was for £35k + brand new company car.

Massive opportunity but I couldn't help myself and smoked a joint in the morning before the interview.

Still got the job though.

Add I will most weekends go out for a 15-20 mile ride on my MTB before the lazy accusations are thrown about.

Edited By: Towelie on May 09, 2017 14:03
3 Likes #39
Towelie
whelan189
Regardless of the results its a gamble as if you start using it you can turn into a waste of space who contribute nothing and just go through life looking for next buzz,,, (never done a drug in my life apart from alcohol and over the counter
Or you could take some first hand evidence rather than the fear mongering spread in the mainstream media.
I had a job interview the other day, job on offer was for £35k + brand new company car.
Massive opportunity but I couldn't help myself and smoked a joint in the morning before the interview.
Still got the job though.
Add I will most weekends go out for a 15-20 mile ride on my MTB before the lazy accusations are thrown about.

great your a part of a small % of people who can control yourself
#40
Lol, the anti drug people are hilarious. The dumb ass anecdotes about your lazy friends doesn't equal ****.

I know people who drink alcohol and get violent, but I know people who don't too. Just like some who smoke are the same as your although probabaly more intelligent than you and not as close minded.

I haven't smoked anything for 6 years and I smoked once every few months for no real reason and I also know one person who started smoking and became very uninterested in things and got a bit lazy, but I know many others who are just fine. The same people here complaining about it and saying it shouldn't be legal for example are the same chubby ****'s sat in front of the TV each night with a take away and watching British soaps.

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