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just gone and paid for 6 months car tax and it went up by £5 at midnite in my opinion it should stay at the price that on your reminder thx thats my whinge over Read More
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6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
just gone and paid for 6 months car tax and it went up by £5 at midnite
in my opinion it should stay at the price that on your reminder

thx thats my whinge over
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6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
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#1
New Tax year....
banned#2
should have paid on receipt of reminder ;)
#3
The extra £5 is to pay to sort the potholes out,OK it's not then.
1 Like #4
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

Edited By: d-j mitch on Apr 01, 2011 09:57
3 Likes #5
Should scrap the complete car tax department and save millions. The duty on fuel is a good indicator on car size and engine emissions. The larger the engine, the more duty paid through tax and MPG.

Would save millions by scrapping the departments, and adding a couple of pence on a litre to keep the same income to the tax man...

Simples..
#6
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
#7
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.


It might be standard but how can it be fair?

TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
#8
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.

Does not make it fair or correct just because it's in place.
#9
What makes it unfair?
3 Likes #10
jasonodell
What makes it unfair?

You being funny ?
If someone pays for 6 Months then maybe,just maybe they are on lower income than the person who pays for the full 12 months & so why should the poorer person pay more ?
2 Likes #11
jasonodell
What makes it unfair?


I pay yearly because I can afford to and don't want to pay more than I have to! However my neighbour pays 6 monthly as he can't afford the yearly figure all at once and so he has to pay an extra £10 plus for the privelege. That makes it unfair.
banned#12
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.


It might be standard but how can it be fair?

TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.

of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
2 Likes #13
No i'm deadly serious, people moan about everything.

Income is completely irrelevant.

If you can't afford 12 months tax because it's 'Too much' - Get a smaller banded car.

If you can't afford petrol because you're running a 1.8. Get a more economical car.

If you really can't afford to pay the extra 5% or so for 6 months rather than 12 months. SAVE.

You save money for paying 12 months over 6. Not the other way round.
banned#14
this.

Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.

csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
#15
d-j mitch
jasonodell
What makes it unfair?


I pay yearly because I can afford to and don't want to pay more than I have to! However my neighbour pays 6 monthly as he can't afford the yearly figure all at once and so he has to pay an extra £10 plus for the privelege. That makes it unfair.


Seriously, who is forcing them to pay for 6 months? They have a choice. Is it the GOV's fault that they can't afford to pay the tax?
£10 over 6 months, 38p a week. Hardly criminal.
1 Like #16
I mainly use public transport,trains planes etc, yet have a car on the drive being charged a fortune for pretty much nothing. Next car I'm buying a foreign plated car and taking trips once a month to Calais then I won't have to buy any UK tax or register the car here.....oops one problem I'm not of a non UK nationality.

It boils my pee when I see car after car with no tax which no doubt means no mot or insurance, this is where the rest of us make their share.

Edited By: simplyjimbo on Apr 01, 2011 10:32
#17
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.


It might be standard but how can it be fair?

TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.

of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
It's a government run office & so can 6 months can be half the price that the 12 months are.
Maybe this is 1 of many reasons why the poor stay poor.
#18
Yeh pretty annoying since mine went up too, remember they dropped it by £40 or so a year ago now slowly putting it back up....
#19
jasonodell


Seriously, who is forcing them to pay for 6 months? They have a choice. Is it the GOV's fault that they can't afford to pay the tax?
£10 over 6 months, 38p a week. Hardly criminal.

Who said they where being forced ?
Also having a smaller car you still pay extra on the 6 months.
How much do you earn p/year ?
#20
£19k - I'm not rich, but I manage my money.

My tax, which I paid yesterday was £68.75 for 6 months, and £125 for 12 months.

I run a 1.2L

The difference is £12.25.

That's £2 a month.
banned#21
WheresMeNuts
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524



That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.


It might be standard but how can it be fair?

TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.

of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
It's a government run office & so can 6 months can be half the price that the 12 months are.
Maybe this is 1 of many reasons why the poor stay poor.

if 6 months was half the price of 12 months, EVERYONE would just get 6 months and keep the remainder in the bank for interest.

Admin charges would double so inevitably the price would go up for everyone. Economics lesson 1.

Edited By: csiman on Apr 01, 2011 10:44
1 Like #22
I just sold my Golf GTI and bought a Citreon C1 so i now only pay £20 per year tax.
I can afford the £260 tax a year on the Golf but to be honest i'm fed up with it all.

Edited By: Mellow Yellow on Apr 01, 2011 10:45
#23
csiman

if 6 months was half the price of 12 months, EVERYONE would just get 6 months and keep the remainder in the bank for interest.

Admin charges would double so inevitably the price would go up for everyone. Economics lesson 1.
Well all they would have to do is add a pound or two to the price of Tax & that will cover everyone & has to be better than the poorer paying the full £12 extra over the year.
#24
Perhaps those in Scotland and Wales etc who get free prescriptions could pay the extra few pence so those of us in England can get the cheaper 6 month price!!!!

WheresMeNuts
csiman

if 6 months was half the price of 12 months, EVERYONE would just get 6 months and keep the remainder in the bank for interest.

Admin charges would double so inevitably the price would go up for everyone. Economics lesson 1.
Well all they would have to do is add a pound or two to the price of Tax & that will cover everyone & has to be better than the poorer paying the full £12 extra over the year.
2 Likes #25
bykergrove
this.

Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.

csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.


There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.
You really are an obnoxious little oik.
suspended 3 Likes #26
its frustrating what happened to the op, but it does say on the letter that you will pay price the road tax set when you get it and not the price stated on the reminder.

i really try to budget myself a few months before to cover the cost of renewing everything on my car i.e. insurance, road tax, mot, servicing.


Edited By: Kirajai on Apr 01, 2011 11:29
banned#27
Perhaps if you stopped stalking me you wouldn't notice it as much.

What is stupid is that people do not understand basic economics. If something costs more to produce then it will cost the customer more too. There is twice as much admin involved in the 6monthers and so it costs more for the person as they have chosen to pay that way. Same way bills are cheaper if you pay via DD. Quite simple really, even for you deek.

deek72
bykergrove
this.Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.You really are an obnoxious little oik.
banned 2 Likes #28
Everything is a rip off in this country :(
#29
tax,tax,tax sucks ive recently got a car after not driving for two years and there are potholes in my area that where there two years ago at least do something with the money.
banned#30
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!

These are the new costs:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.

It might be standard but how can it be fair?

TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.

I pay my tv licence for 6 month's and then I cancel it because I don't like paying in advance for the following year.
#31
Surely the OP was meant to have bought their tax by yesterday anyway - doesn't it always work till the end of a month and then you can buy new tax at any time in that final month? I might be wrong, but it sounds like they were untaxed this morning and only have themselves to blame really...
1 Like #32
bykergrove
Perhaps if you stopped stalking me you wouldn't notice it as much.

What is stupid is that people do not understand basic economics. If something costs more to produce then it will cost the customer more too. There is twice as much admin involved in the 6monthers and so it costs more for the person as they have chosen to pay that way. Same way bills are cheaper if you pay via DD. Quite simple really, even for you deek.

deek72
bykergrove
this.Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.You really are an obnoxious little oik.

I'm not interested in the economics of it. I'm talking purely about your rank attitude, calling people stupid. Still, you are what you are, if your parents couldn't teach you manners I'm sure I won't be able to.
Oh, and talking of stupid people, I see you still haven't mastered the quoting procedure here.
banned#33
You show your ignorance again. On my and other peoples mobiles the cursor on a reply appears at the top of the text box.

My rank attitude? Lol rich coming from you deek. Seriously my irony meter is reading off the scale.

deek72
bykergrove
Perhaps if you stopped stalking me you wouldn't notice it as much.

What is stupid is that people do not understand basic economics. If something costs more to produce then it will cost the customer more too. There is twice as much admin involved in the 6monthers and so it costs more for the person as they have chosen to pay that way. Same way bills are cheaper if you pay via DD. Quite simple really, even for you deek.

deek72
bykergrove
this.Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.You really are an obnoxious little oik.

I'm not interested in the economics of it. I'm talking purely about your rank attitude, calling people stupid. Still, you are what you are, if your parents couldn't teach you manners I'm sure I won't be able to.
Oh, and talking of stupid people, I see you still haven't mastered the quoting procedure here.
#34
bykergrove
You show your ignorance again. On my and other peoples mobiles the cursor on a reply appears at the top of the text box.

My rank attitude? Lol rich coming from you deek. Seriously my irony meter is reading off the scale.

deek72
bykergrove
Perhaps if you stopped stalking me you wouldn't notice it as much.

What is stupid is that people do not understand basic economics. If something costs more to produce then it will cost the customer more too. There is twice as much admin involved in the 6monthers and so it costs more for the person as they have chosen to pay that way. Same way bills are cheaper if you pay via DD. Quite simple really, even for you deek.

deek72
bykergrove
this.Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.You really are an obnoxious little oik.

I'm not interested in the economics of it. I'm talking purely about your rank attitude, calling people stupid. Still, you are what you are, if your parents couldn't teach you manners I'm sure I won't be able to.
Oh, and talking of stupid people, I see you still haven't mastered the quoting procedure here.



Ah, my mistake. I thought you understood smart phones. Touch in the box, scroll to bottom of page, place cursor. Simple, even for you.

Edited By: deek72 on Apr 01, 2011 12:01
banned#35
I'll reply like this to you from now on, even when I'm on a desktop. Since you love it so much.
deek72
bykergrove
You show your ignorance again. On my and other peoples mobiles the cursor on a reply appears at the top of the text box.

My rank attitude? Lol rich coming from you deek. Seriously my irony meter is reading off the scale.

deek72
bykergrove
Perhaps if you stopped stalking me you wouldn't notice it as much.

What is stupid is that people do not understand basic economics. If something costs more to produce then it will cost the customer more too. There is twice as much admin involved in the 6monthers and so it costs more for the person as they have chosen to pay that way. Same way bills are cheaper if you pay via DD. Quite simple really, even for you deek.

deek72
bykergrove
this.Can't believe how stupid some people are. We don't live in a communist state so deal with it.
csiman
d-j mitch
jasonodell
d-j mitch
So agree! It also annoys me that if you pay 6 monthly it costs you more than if you pay yearly!These are the new costs:http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
That's pretty standard with most things to be fair.
It might be standard but how can it be fair?TV License is paid either monthly or yearly and the cost is the same either way.
of course its fair. more admin = more expense.
There you go again. Anyone who's views don't coincide with yours is stupid.You really are an obnoxious little oik.

I'm not interested in the economics of it. I'm talking purely about your rank attitude, calling people stupid. Still, you are what you are, if your parents couldn't teach you manners I'm sure I won't be able to.
Oh, and talking of stupid people, I see you still haven't mastered the quoting procedure here.



Ah, my mistake. I thought you understood smart phones. Touch in the box, scroll to bottom of page, place cursor. Simple, even for you.
3 Likes #36
FilthAndFurry


And once again you demonstrate why you're in the situation that you are.

12 month tax discs mean less admin. That's why they cost less. It also guarantees more income to the government meaning it's easier to plan budgets.
And once again you show how selfish you are being a high earner.
So you think the poor should pay more just because they can't aford to pay the full 12 months up front ?
In fact don't answer that as you have made it clear over & over again about how your a "I'm ok Jack & everything in my garden is rosy".



bykergrove
Lol you off your meds? They're free for you aren't they?


You do know I was joking ?
banned#37
Yeah sorry mate :)
WheresMeNuts
FilthAndFurry
And once again you demonstrate why you're in the situation that you are.12 month tax discs mean less admin. That's why they cost less. It also guarantees more income to the government meaning it's easier to plan budgets.
And once again you show how selfish you are being a high earner.So you think the poor should pay more just because they can't aford to pay the full 12 months up front ?In fact don't answer that as you have made it clear over & over again about how your a "I'm ok Jack & everything in my garden is rosy".
bykergrove
Lol you off your meds? They're free for you aren't they?
You do know I was joking ?
banned#38
WheresMeNuts
FilthAndFurry


And once again you demonstrate why you're in the situation that you are.

12 month tax discs mean less admin. That's why they cost less. It also guarantees more income to the government meaning it's easier to plan budgets.
And once again you show how selfish you are being a high earner.
So you think the poor should pay more just because they can't aford to pay the full 12 months up front ?
In fact don't answer that as you have made it clear over & over again about how your a "I'm ok Jack & everything in my garden is rosy".


You just can't understand that paying more upfront is beneficial to the government so of course they would incentivise that method of payment.

It's just basic common sense, something you again and again demonstrate a severe shortage of.
#39
FilthAndFurry


You just can't understand that paying more upfront is beneficial to the government so of course they would incentivise that method of payment.

It's just basic common sense, something you again and again demonstrate a severe shortage of.

You again fail to answer the question so I'll try again.

Is it fair/right that the poorer people in Britain should pay more for something than the richer people just because they can't afford the larger sum ?
1 Like #40
WheresMeNuts
FilthAndFurry


You just can't understand that paying more upfront is beneficial to the government so of course they would incentivise that method of payment.

It's just basic common sense, something you again and again demonstrate a severe shortage of.

You again fail to answer the question so I'll try again.

Is it fair/right that the poorer people in Britain should pay more for something than the richer people just because they can't afford the larger sum ?


The poorer people should buy a car that they can afford to tax or work harder/smarter so to afford the higher tax cars if that's what they want.

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