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hey, just had my card used by some b****** lol, one of the payments was to comet group plc, if I phone up comet would they give me the address the fraudster used for delivery? i didnt realise th… Read More
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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
hey,

just had my card used by some b****** lol, one of the payments was to comet group plc, if I phone up comet would they give me the address the fraudster used for delivery?

i didnt realise that my card had been used until the bank called which i refused to answer as i assumed they wanted to sell me something, but they mentioned it was urgent where it is then i checked my account.
I think you should be able to register your card to an email address you check regularly, and when the card is used it will send a confirmation of that transaction just like a receipt you get when you purchase from an online retailer. this way you'd know quicker.

well thats it :santa:
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1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
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#1
poor you. and that email thing sounds like a good idea:)
#2
I don't think you'd be allowed access to the fraudsters address but if you get the police involved they will be allowed to and if they find him/her dealing with stolen property then he'll be arrested!
#3
I would guess it would depend on how you bluffed it. Sometimes just by being ultra confident and not letting on the fact your card has been stolen would be enough to find that info out. i.e. that you are just phoning up to track order and was wondering if you put the correct postcode on the order. your pc has crashed and you no longer have the copy invoice - would it be possible they could confirm details over the phone or email you a duplicate to you. confidence is the key i think but dont take the law into your own hands if you get the address.
#4
Just get the police involved and stay out of it, you dont want to mix with these people.
#5
hope you have sorted it out with the back have they paid you back.:?
#6
How much was it for? If it was a lot of £ then Comet should have checked with the bank that the address was that of the credit card holder (Called the bank and asked for the address of a Mr *** ****** and checked whether it matched)

Would contact them and explain the situation, saying that they should have some sort of security in place to stop this happening
#7
the police will do nothing, same thing happened recently, the store were very helpful and gave the address and delivery time to the person who'se card was stolen, the details were passed on to the police who said they were too busy and would get back to them at a later date, long after the item was delivered. Here's the rub, the police told the card holder that they'd be nicked if they tried to apprehend the person themselves
#8
I've had my Credit card Compromised twice, the Bank and Police don't give a to$$. The Bank just refunded nearly £2,000 on the first occasion and about £70 on the second. The scammer ordered things from Amazon, Argos and O2, so they could have got the little scrote.
According to the Police, these scammers book into a Boarding house for the duration of the scam and then go.
Apparently it's the retailers who foot the bill.
#9
thanks for the replies guys, all i was gonna do was throw paint on his front door, possibly some eggs and run lol

'he' used the card twice on 11th April one for £300 to 'T& A E-COMMERCE' and the other for £432.90 to 'COMET GROUP PLC' and the next day for £1.50 to 'WP-STAGECOACH SERV'.

so im probs the luckier ones to not get £1000s taken, the £300 taken was returned the following day as the bank mentioned they found it suspicious when he was asked for the postcode and he hung up.

i hate letting people get away with anything
#10
I had my card "used" to get stuff from Comet too!
A man from the bank said "Did you realise you bought goods to the value of £1,400?" Well I thought about it for a millisecond and come to the conclusion NO!
Long story short investigations were made even a delivery address was known but nothing was followed up, I even phoned Comet to tell them not to deliver! Unbelievably they were very reluctant to lose the "sale"! :?

I am so careful with cards but they will always find a way!
The Gits!
#11
ephellova
the police told the card holder that they'd be nicked if they tried to apprehend the person themselves


Thats just ridiculous!, You might aswell hand out card numbers on a plate and save them a job.

I thought if they are caught handling stolen goods then an arrest can be made.
#12
How come some fraudsters got your card details?
#13
kemot1984
How come some fraudsters got your card details?

At a hotel in London (you know they swipe your card in case you have any outstanding stuff), then it spiralled from there!
#14
[SIZE=2]Ive had this happen to me a few times as well ): after speaking to Friends its a easy task to do this........one method that was mentioned was double swipping your card in the machine how it works i dont know, but as always there is always a person selling CC in a local pub. £50 a frow is about the goin rate............And as u say the Plod dont give a $**t about it...........[/SIZE]
#15
A couple of weeks ago I was listening on the radio how many people have now been caught out by online fraud, and thinking how I have never had any problems since using the net for over 10 years now.... that was until the fraud department of my bank rang me last week asking if I had paid £500 to an online gambling site. I certainly hadn't, and they said they thought it was suspicious so was checking it out.
Luckily they put a stop to the payment before it went from my account, couldn't afford to lose £500 out of it!.
It has certainly made me somewhat concerned how someone got my details though. It was apparently carried out by someone in Israel.

I believe what made the bank suspicious, was a 74p transaction before this one, which was done as a 'test' to make sure the card was valid. So if you ever see any transactions on your statement you don't recognise, no matter how small, be very cautious.

Luckily the only hassle I have had is to wait for a new card, I certainly hope I don't get caught out again, but with so many online purchases there is always a danger of your details getting stolen. Maybe it was to do with the details stolen from TK Max, as mentioned on another post....who knows.

Oh, and about reporting card fraud to the police, there was an article in the latest PC Pro saying how the police have now officialy stated they will not take calls regarding card fraud, and you have to contact your bank. It is then up to the bank if they should report the matter to the police. And as a lot of the time it's down to banks security, they won't want to be contacting the police about it. Looks like things can only get worse.
#16
I'm going to set-up a second account for internet purchases only and i think i'll just pay money in as and when its needed or just keep a small about like £50.

And transfer £50 a month etc.

Then it'll keep my account with my wages going in etc, Totally separate, Thats the plan anyway!
#17
mug51
hey,

just had my card used by some b****** lol, one of the payments was to comet group plc, if I phone up comet would they give me the address the fraudster used for delivery?


Unfortunately they won't be able to give it to you, due to the data protection act. Although IF the item has been delivered.. you should get a receipt through the post anyways - I'm pretty sure that should have the relevant details on it.

Sadly I see a lot of this at work :x
#18
chuf
[SIZE=2]Ive had this happen to me a few times as well ): after speaking to Friends its a easy task to do this........one method that was mentioned was double swipping your card in the machine how it works i dont know, but as always there is always a person selling CC in a local pub. £50 a frow is about the goin rate............And as u say the Plod dont give a $**t about it...........[/SIZE]


If you watch The Real Hustle on BBC3, it shows just how easy it is for a fraudster to get card details. From waitresses in restaurants, to checkout operators in supermarkets, to simply whacking your card into a compromised ATM :x
#19
i thought it would never happen to me cos i never use my card in shops, only online but guess thats not the case :-(
#20
vinylandtrinkets
nope, i would phone the hotel and demand to know how your card got used, as the person who checked you in has a code attached to them when they check in & out guests.
so it seems to me that either the recep or night audit person used your card, passed it on to someone or the security at the hotel is total rubbish

I phoned the hotel straight away as it was definately their staff, all the manager said was "well, what do you want me to do?" over and over to which I replied get more trustworthy staff and manage them!
I also informed her that the Fraud squad were involved (just to shake her up a bit!)
#21
mercury122
I phoned the hotel straight away as it was definately their staff, all the manager said was "well, what do you want me to do?" over and over to which I replied get more trustworthy staff and manage them!
I also informed her that the Fraud squad were involved (just to shake her up a bit!)


Nice to know they have sympathy with the victim - NOT!!! I think it's absolutely disgusting and very worrying all that I have read regarding this post.

Allthough, I did have a nasty experience myself but in reverse! A member of staff noticed a credit card lying on the floor of the shop in which we work. I placed it in the safe and notified the security staff for the shopping centre.

Within 15 minutes a man appeared asking for his lost card he is convinced he dropped in our shop. I requested ID (as he may not necessarily be the 'real' owner) he said he didnt have any and demanded I hand over his card as it is his property and I have no right to keep it. No thank you for saving it falling into the wrong hands etc!

Anyway, I stood my ground and he went home (complaining bitterly, incidentially he only lived 3 miles away and was in his car, so not a long journey!) to fetch his ID, he was the owner of the card. So I handed it over, but again no thank you at all.

Personally, I would have been grateful and relieved that someone had picked it up and kept it save!

So, it seems you cannot help some people! :thinking:
#22
suze
Nice to know they have sympathy with the victim - NOT!!! I think it's absolutely disgusting and very worrying all that I have read regarding this post.

Allthough, I did have a nasty experience myself but in reverse! A member of staff noticed a credit card lying on the floor of the shop in which we work. I placed it in the safe and notified the security staff for the shopping centre.

Within 15 minutes a man appeared asking for his lost card he is convinced he dropped in our shop. I requested ID (as he may not necessarily be the 'real' owner) he said he didnt have any and demanded I hand over his card as it is his property and I have no right to keep it. No thank you for saving it falling into the wrong hands etc!

Anyway, I stood my ground and he went home (complaining bitterly, incidentially he only lived 3 miles away and was in his car, so not a long journey!) to fetch his ID, he was the owner of the card. So I handed it over, but again no thank you at all.

Personally, I would have been grateful and relieved that someone had picked it up and kept it save!

So, it seems you cannot help some people! :thinking:

Thats a shame he was so up himself, I would be pleased to know you were being so cautious especially with my encounters of late!
People are so selfish now (I do sound old!)
Well done anyway (bet you wished you went on a shopping spree now?)
#23
mercury122
Thats a shame he was so up himself, I would be pleased to know you were being so cautious especially with my encounters of late!
People are so selfish now (I do sound old!)
Well done anyway (bet you wished you went on a shopping spree now?)


I couldn't beleive his reaction, although the staff member who served him said he wasn't pleasant then either! And that was before he'd lost his card!

So, obviously just a awkward b*****d full stop!!! :w00t:

God, just noticed my post count - 666.!!!!
#24
suze
Nice to know they have sympathy with the victim - NOT!!! I think it's absolutely disgusting and very worrying all that I have read regarding this post.

Allthough, I did have a nasty experience myself but in reverse! A member of staff noticed a credit card lying on the floor of the shop in which we work. I placed it in the safe and notified the security staff for the shopping centre.

Within 15 minutes a man appeared asking for his lost card he is convinced he dropped in our shop. I requested ID (as he may not necessarily be the 'real' owner) he said he didnt have any and demanded I hand over his card as it is his property and I have no right to keep it. No thank you for saving it falling into the wrong hands etc!

Anyway, I stood my ground and he went home (complaining bitterly, incidentially he only lived 3 miles away and was in his car, so not a long journey!) to fetch his ID, he was the owner of the card. So I handed it over, but again no thank you at all.

Personally, I would have been grateful and relieved that someone had picked it up and kept it save!

So, it seems you cannot help some people! :thinking:


not surprising really, had it been your card I imagine you'd be annoyed to find you wernt just going to be given it back. when money is involved people stop thinking normally and just worry about getting it back.

he probably realised a few days later that you'd kept it safe and he should ahve apologosed. happens all the time at work with people saying theyve not been given the right change or cashback etc, never get a thankyou.
#25
Unless its crazy high amount police don't care.
My partner had debit card fraud last year,basically he just got his wage and I was down post office and I was paying some rent and a gas bill with his debit card and I continued into town,I was going atm machine to get the remaning money he owed me out his wage as we half everything.There was a balance available of about £60 thought thats not right,went straight to his work said you need to go in bank. Anyway turned out 3 large transactions ( large to us anyway ) had been made.It took a couple days for the bank to see what been requested from where and they couldn't freeze it despite me picking up on it within hours of them being made.One was for airline tickets,another for some mobile phone company or other and something else. We had a lot of form filling out,bank said not to bother going police station to report it and get crime number as they would refund the money bank when investigations were completed.Took around a month to get the funds back in his account,a few phone calls here and there to fraud people.I assume most banks will get you your money back aslong as you have the card still and its not because you lost it.
That debit card being my partners has not been used online to make purchases as we only use the joint account for that,he doesn't think it was cloned on a false atm machine with skimmer device in so can only assume his details copied in a shop. As I said unless its a crazy high amount the police don't want to know. Its encouraging for the fraudsters to keep carrying on knowing they can get away with it.Surely the mobile phone or whatever was purchased could been tracked like their calls or however they work and as for plane tickets well they could been caught as they going on holiday.I expect if we went to the police they wouldn't gone to airport anyway and that day all we cared about was getting the money back and bank just said leave it to them. Other week I read on online news that some parent complained that her little boy was frightened when a policeman approached him to stop him chalking hopscotch on a path and told him it was graffitti,whatever next. She should complain to council and get them to put a permanent painted one down on some path for the children,oh yeh fat chance of that too,seeing no1 ever benefits fully from their council tax. As my Mum always says only thing police catch is a cold.

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