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I had a nasty accident cycling home last night when a chap in a car decided to overtake me then cut in front of me to turn left. I didn't have a chance. I was going about 20 mph and I smashed into t… Read More
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banned6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
I had a nasty accident cycling home last night when a chap in a car decided to overtake me then cut in front of me to turn left. I didn't have a chance. I was going about 20 mph and I smashed into the back end of his car, taking a nasty tumble.

Police came and I was taken to hospital in an ambulance - CT scan was clear so thankfully I have nothing more than a very bad headache and scratches and bruises.

The chap drove off, someone chased after him and brought him back to the scene. He didn't have a clue. He said he couldn't see me which is absolute tosh - it is obvious he had no judgement of speed/distance.

SO - for cyclists, make sure you wear helmets. Mine saved my life according to the doctor, it's now in two bits.

For car users - use BOTH wing mirrors. Most just use the right hand one and don't think to look out for cyclists. We have just as much right to the road than you do.

Be safe.
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banned6y, 2m agoPosted 6 years, 2 months ago
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[mod] 7 Likes #1
For car users - use BOTH wing mirrors


I ALWAYS use both wing mirrors............the right one to look behind and the left one to clip those cyclists round the ass. :D

p.s - Glad you're ok. :)
banned#2
did you damage his car ??
#3
Arghhh i'm paranoid enough about my boyfriend cycling to work as it is,no helmet and wearing earphones arghhh

Nice to see you're still alive (_;)
#4
goldmax
did you damage his car ??


yeah, I hope you paid for the dent!
4 Likes #5
I dunno, these people that use NHS resources willy nilly. I make do with a plaster, still have to pay my Taxes for people like you!!!
banned#6
Syzable
For car users - use BOTH wing mirrors


I ALWAYS use both wing mirrors............the right one to look behind and the left one to clip those cyclists round the ass. :D

p.s - Glad you're ok. :)


Cheers.
There does seem to be a cyclist/car rivalry out there - why can't we just all get along?

Only last week, I did my usual sign of waving back cars that have gone over the cycling lane as they are eager to pull out. It's not being nasty, it's not sticking two fingers up, it's just a simple wave to let them know they're pulled out to far and I have to no go into the main road.

One chap decided that was too much to entertain in the morning and he took the effort to wind down his window (no electrics on this genius' car) and shouted "F*** OFF" at the top of his voice.

People need to chill.
banned 1 Like #7
Glad to hear you're ok JTT.

I know there are plenty of bad cyclists out there but rarely does poor cycling result in the injury/death of someone else. Some of the driving I see is criminal, I should wear a helmet cam and post the results.

Same thing happens to me fairly regularly, driver tries to overtake then turn left at a junction. I'm wary coming up to any junction like this so I ease up on the speed. Another thing is them not indicating to turn left when they're waiting at lights so you undertake in the little cycle lane bit then they turn left anyway either causing you to brake or them and then they get annoyed?!?!
banned#8
goldmax
did you damage his car ??


Yeah - police asked me what happened, I told them, and they said that it fitted with the marks left on the back side of his car. Waiting for a phone call today. Hopefully he's shook up enough to be more careful in future. A new helmet wouldn't go amiss though. :D
#9
I must admit I hate Cyclists,but I like many have used bikes in the past & remember this happening to me twice.
Both times the drivers overtake you then they take the very next left turn & hit your bike.
The 2nd time it happened (in one year) I braked & pushed the bike in to the car deliberately & hit the car so hard my front wheel was all bent & yes the driver still kept driving knowing I guess they where in the wrong.

At least your OK Jonny & if I was you I would sue the driver now you know who they are & let's face it they could have done the same to a kid with no helmet & would still have drove off.
[mod]#10
JonnyTwoToes
Syzable
For car users - use BOTH wing mirrors


I ALWAYS use both wing mirrors............the right one to look behind and the left one to clip those cyclists round the ass. :D

p.s - Glad you're ok. :)


Cheers.
There does seem to be a cyclist/car rivalry out there - why can't we just all get along?

Only last week, I did my usual sign of waving back cars that have gone over the cycling lane as they are eager to pull out. It's not being nasty, it's not sticking two fingers up, it's just a simple wave to let them know they're pulled out to far and I have to no go into the main road.

One chap decided that was too much to entertain in the morning and he took the effort to wind down his window (no electrics on this genius' car) and shouted "F*** OFF" at the top of his voice.

People need to chill.


I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.
#11
JonnyTwoToes
goldmax
did you damage his car ??


Yeah - police asked me what happened, I told them, and they said that it fitted with the marks left on the back side of his car. Waiting for a phone call today. Hopefully he's shook up enough to be more careful in future. A new helmet wouldn't go amiss though. :D


I'm quite sure you could sue because its an accident that wasn't your fault. That would pay for a new helmet!
1 Like #12
glad to hear you are ok JTT-did you happen to find out what political party the driver was affiliated to?(cough)
banned#13
I don't get this excuse that a cyclist is in the blindspot coming up the inside, just how big is this blindspot in some cars when a 6ft3' cyclist on a large bike with hi-vis clothing can't be seen at any point coming from over 10 metres back up to the point of being alongside/just in front.
banned#14
deb8z
Arghhh i'm paranoid enough about my boyfriend cycling to work as it is,no helmet and wearing earphones arghhh

Nice to see you're still alive (_;)


Sorry to sound harsh here, but he's an idiot if he doesn't wear a helmet. When I get home tonight, I'll post you a picture of what is left of mine. The back took all the force - if I hadn't been wearing it, my head would have hit the road with dire consequences.


Edited By: JonnyTwoToes on May 10, 2011 08:50
#15
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.
banned#16
master_chief
Glad to hear you're ok JTT.

I know there are plenty of bad cyclists out there but rarely does poor cycling result in the injury/death of someone else. Some of the driving I see is criminal, I should wear a helmet cam and post the results.

Same thing happens to me fairly regularly, driver tries to overtake then turn left at a junction. I'm wary coming up to any junction like this so I ease up on the speed. Another thing is them not indicating to turn left when they're waiting at lights so you undertake in the little cycle lane bit then they turn left anyway either causing you to brake or them and then they get annoyed?!?!


Spot on.
#17
ive nothing against cyclists but i dont think the roads are big enough or the cyclye lanes, the amount of cyclists that are nearly in the road instead of the lane its no wonder there are accidents, i always worry when im driving past a cyclist.
#18
also i see a lot of cyclist going through red lights, if they use the road they should stick to the rules like the car drivers.
banned#19
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.
banned#20
vibeone

Cyclists get all the hate they deserve, simple as that. Glad you're OK OP, and sure you are a minority, but unfortunately the majority of your fellow cyclists are absolute scum.

Just balancing the books a bit :) and by the way, I bike a bit as well.


Thanks.
I'm not saying we're all angels, and I guess you're talking about London?
A decent road cyclist will stick to the rules of the road, otherwise he won't be around for very long.
banned#21
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


I'll give you the same gap as I would give to a car - as per the rules. Thats the gap between 2 cars, not leave a car-sized gap.

Oh and if a cyclist is riding 2 a breast, I'll give as little room as possible without damaging my car (not arsed about the cyclist scum in this case)

Edited By: vibeone on May 10, 2011 08:57
banned#22
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone

Cyclists get all the hate they deserve, simple as that. Glad you're OK OP, and sure you are a minority, but unfortunately the majority of your fellow cyclists are absolute scum.

Just balancing the books a bit :) and by the way, I bike a bit as well.


Thanks.
I'm not saying we're all angels, and I guess you're talking about London?
A decent road cyclist will stick to the rules of the road, otherwise he won't be around for very long.


Nah I'm not from London, though I imagine its 10x worse there - I'm from the country init.

Sorry for the rants, this is a subject that really winds me up. Prob not the best angle to come at this thread from I guess :P
banned#23
funnily enough,we had a **** on a bike stroll right to the front of a queue of traffic i was sitting in yesterday the proceeded to stick his arm out to turn right when everyone else was going straight on,needlees to say he got an earful from every car that tried to squeeze past him" why on earth do these people think that they have a divine right to filter all the way up traffic jams and hold eveyone else up even more and then look shocked when the get an earful!
at least if the bike had an engine he would have been around the corner before the oncomming traffic had reached him.
[mod]#24
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


The problem is you give them enough room and they suddenly vere over to the right meaning you have to slam the anchors on or choose to hit them or the car in the next lane.

I'm probably guilty as well due to as you mention half the drains on the roads are collapsing on themselves.
banned#25
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


I'll give you the same gap as I would give to a car - as per the rules. Thats the gap between 2 cars, not leave a car-sized gap.


It's the ten second memory of car drivers that I think winds most cyclists like me up. I wonder if they think we're stationary? Some give you ample room, then as soon as they have passed, they forget all about you and pull right up to kerb, leaving no room to pass.
banned#26
Yes hate kerb huggers. We all need a hug sometimes but come on...
[mod]#27
My other pet hate (area specific) is here in Peterborough we spent millions building cycle paths (the green wheel route) for cyclists to use which covers the whole city and outskirts..............but cyclists don't use it as it would take them 5-10 minutes longer than the road.
banned#28
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


I'll give you the same gap as I would give to a car - as per the rules. Thats the gap between 2 cars, not leave a car-sized gap.


It's the ten second memory of car drivers that I think winds most cyclists like me up. I wonder if they think we're stationary? Some give you ample room, then as soon as they have passed, they forget all about you and pull right up to kerb, leaving no room to pass.


Again though - 2 sides to the coin. If we're on a busy road approaching traffic lights, and I've waited, given you space, made a safe overtake, and come to a halt at the lights, I don't expect you to come waltzing past to the front of the queue so I can toodle along behind you over the lights and have to overtake you again. So in this case, I will try and pull tight to the kerb to block you - but only at a slow speed.
#29
JonnyTwoToes
deb8z
Arghhh i'm paranoid enough about my boyfriend cycling to work as it is,no helmet and wearing earphones arghhh

Nice to see you're still alive (_;)

Sorry to sound harsh here, but he's an idiot if he doesn't wear a helmet. When I get home tonight, I'll post you a picture of what is left of mine. The back took all the force - if I hadn't been wearing it, my head would have hit the road with dire consequences.


You're right though,it's not harsh at all, it is silly not to wear one.
banned#30
As a cyclist I also hate other cyclists riding in the middle of the road or 2 abreast.
banned#31
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone

Cyclists get all the hate they deserve, simple as that. Glad you're OK OP, and sure you are a minority, but unfortunately the majority of your fellow cyclists are absolute scum.

Just balancing the books a bit :) and by the way, I bike a bit as well.


Thanks.
I'm not saying we're all angels, and I guess you're talking about London?
A decent road cyclist will stick to the rules of the road, otherwise he won't be around for very long.


Nah I'm not from London, though I imagine its 10x worse there - I'm from the country init.

Sorry for the rants, this is a subject that really winds me up. Prob not the best angle to come at this thread from I guess :P


No worries, it is a two way thing. When I get to drive my car, I witness some god awful cyclists out there - the two/three a breast winds me up rotten.
The majority I see are pretty decent though - and always nice to cycle to work saying hello to fellow cyclists, rather than have anger management issues waiting in traffic jams.
banned#32
JonnyTwoToes
deb8z
Arghhh i'm paranoid enough about my boyfriend cycling to work as it is,no helmet and wearing earphones arghhh

Nice to see you're still alive (_;)

Sorry to sound harsh here, but he's an idiot if he doesn't wear a helmet. When I get home tonight, I'll post you a picture of what is left of mine. The back took all the force - if I hadn't been wearing it, my head would have hit the road with dire consequences.

cycling at a safe speed not your helmet will save your life , read this LINK
banned#33
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


I'll give you the same gap as I would give to a car - as per the rules. Thats the gap between 2 cars, not leave a car-sized gap.


It's the ten second memory of car drivers that I think winds most cyclists like me up. I wonder if they think we're stationary? Some give you ample room, then as soon as they have passed, they forget all about you and pull right up to kerb, leaving no room to pass.


Again though - 2 sides to the coin. If we're on a busy road approaching traffic lights, and I've waited, given you space, made a safe overtake, and come to a halt at the lights, I don't expect you to come waltzing past to the front of the queue so I can toodle along behind you over the lights and have to overtake you again. So in this case, I will try and pull tight to the kerb to block you - but only at a slow speed.


X)
The simple answer is for us all to ride bikes. Don't you agree?
banned#34
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone

Cyclists get all the hate they deserve, simple as that. Glad you're OK OP, and sure you are a minority, but unfortunately the majority of your fellow cyclists are absolute scum.

Just balancing the books a bit :) and by the way, I bike a bit as well.


Thanks.
I'm not saying we're all angels, and I guess you're talking about London?
A decent road cyclist will stick to the rules of the road, otherwise he won't be around for very long.


Nah I'm not from London, though I imagine its 10x worse there - I'm from the country init.

Sorry for the rants, this is a subject that really winds me up. Prob not the best angle to come at this thread from I guess :P


No worries, it is a two way thing. When I get to drive my car, I witness some god awful cyclists out there - the two/three a breast winds me up rotten.
The majority I see are pretty decent though - and always nice to cycle to work saying hello to fellow cyclists, rather than have anger management issues waiting in traffic jams.


You say that but on Oxford Street 2 weeks back, I approached to cross a road on foot, admittedly at speed, then stopped ubruptly for a cyclist and as he rode past he maturely shouted 'moron' at me, at which point I burst out laughing and he looked confused.

Obviously he was factually accurate, but not for the reason he thought. I just thought 'you ****'. So some do have anger management issues :P
banned 2 Likes #35
Cycling to work is awesome though, it's quicker than driving, costs next to nothing and keeps you fit. I feel smugger than a Prius driver!
banned#36
goldmax
JonnyTwoToes
deb8z
Arghhh i'm paranoid enough about my boyfriend cycling to work as it is,no helmet and wearing earphones arghhh

Nice to see you're still alive (_;)


Sorry to sound harsh here, but he's an idiot if he doesn't wear a helmet. When I get home tonight, I'll post you a picture of what is left of mine. The back took all the force - if I hadn't been wearing it, my head would have hit the road with dire consequences.

cycling at a safe speed not your helmet will save your life , read this LINK


Yeah, read that whilst I was at the hospital actually - very sad.

Like I say, I'll post a pic of my helmet (cycling helmet that is oO) when I get back tonight - it certainly did save my life.
banned#37
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
WheresMeNuts
Syzable

I see it from both sides.............when i'm in the car i wish that cyclists would stop weaving around in front of me (why do cyclists i happen across never ride in a straight line??) and when i'm on a bike i wish drivers would stop trying to remove my right leg with their wing.

I think these days it's impossible to drive in a strait line due to massive pot holes.


That's a good point. Anyone other cyclists aware of the debris, massive drain covers and man holes at the side of the road?
I do think it's up to the drivers to give cyclists as much room as possible.


I'll give you the same gap as I would give to a car - as per the rules. Thats the gap between 2 cars, not leave a car-sized gap.


It's the ten second memory of car drivers that I think winds most cyclists like me up. I wonder if they think we're stationary? Some give you ample room, then as soon as they have passed, they forget all about you and pull right up to kerb, leaving no room to pass.


Again though - 2 sides to the coin. If we're on a busy road approaching traffic lights, and I've waited, given you space, made a safe overtake, and come to a halt at the lights, I don't expect you to come waltzing past to the front of the queue so I can toodle along behind you over the lights and have to overtake you again. So in this case, I will try and pull tight to the kerb to block you - but only at a slow speed.


X)
The simple answer is for us all to ride bikes. Don't you agree?


In an ideal world.... until you have to go long distance, or it rains, or you're tired, or you just wanna speeeeeeed :D

BTW, I bike without a helmet, but usually off road (parks/cycle paths/mixed use routes). I'm aware its a safety issue, but my hair would get messed up. Swings and roundabouts.
banned 1 Like #38
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone
JonnyTwoToes
vibeone

Cyclists get all the hate they deserve, simple as that. Glad you're OK OP, and sure you are a minority, but unfortunately the majority of your fellow cyclists are absolute scum.

Just balancing the books a bit :) and by the way, I bike a bit as well.


Thanks.
I'm not saying we're all angels, and I guess you're talking about London?
A decent road cyclist will stick to the rules of the road, otherwise he won't be around for very long.


Nah I'm not from London, though I imagine its 10x worse there - I'm from the country init.

Sorry for the rants, this is a subject that really winds me up. Prob not the best angle to come at this thread from I guess :P


No worries, it is a two way thing. When I get to drive my car, I witness some god awful cyclists out there - the two/three a breast winds me up rotten.
The majority I see are pretty decent though - and always nice to cycle to work saying hello to fellow cyclists, rather than have anger management issues waiting in traffic jams.


You say that but on Oxford Street 2 weeks back, I approached to cross a road on foot, admittedly at speed, then stopped ubruptly for a cyclist and as he rode past he maturely shouted 'moron' at me, at which point I burst out laughing and he looked confused.

Obviously he was factually accurate, but not for the reason he thought. I just thought 'you ****'. So some do have anger management issues :P


Yeah, I'd suggest that was probably one of your haters on this forum - nothing to do with cyclist/car user relationships. :D
banned 1 Like #39
Next time you go and sign on take the bus.
banned#40
master_chief
Cycling to work is awesome though, it's quicker than driving, costs next to nothing and keeps you fit. I feel smugger than a Prius driver!


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