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Carlo Ancelotti Sacked

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5y, 6m agoPosted 5 years, 6 months ago
lolz, saw that coming. who do you reckon is next?
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banned 1 Like #2
I remember when Jose Mourinho was sacked. It was a shock and I was sad to see him go.

Right now I'm feeling relieved.
#3
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.
banned#4
Punjab
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.


Awesome prediction. Do you know who the next Chelsea manager will be too? What about the Neymar deal?

(here comes the tumbleweed....)
#5
Good Riddance. He inherited a great team, with great team spirit from Hiddink. Poor substional choices, and baffling starting team choices / formations this season, looks like he has lost the dressing room to be honest, glad he has gone. Roman needs to invest in team too, bringing in players that will complement the future (Torres) and look to the future. Neymar / Hazard / Sanchez / Kaka / Aguero / Pato. Will need a few of those players. Finally would like to see Hiddink back.

Edited By: Ruscoe21 on May 22, 2011 20:38
[mod]#6
FilthAndFurry
Punjab
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.


Awesome prediction. Do you know who the next Chelsea manager will be too? What about the Neymar deal?

(here comes the tumbleweed....)


They need to invest in a fair few areas. Drogba was not even in the squad today and will be off, Torres will get goals when he's not injured or struggling with form (which will be 95% of the time), Fat Frank's best days are gone and Cech needs some competition or replacing (never been the same since his head injury).

They have a small squad and they need big investment to rebuild as the youth except for one or two isn't coming through. Be a season or two transitional period i think.
banned 1 Like #7
Syzable
FilthAndFurry
Punjab
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.


Awesome prediction. Do you know who the next Chelsea manager will be too? What about the Neymar deal?

(here comes the tumbleweed....)


They need to invest in a fair few areas. Drogba was not even in the squad today and will be off, Torres will get goals when he's not injured or struggling with form (which will be 95% of the time), Fat Frank's best days are gone and Cech needs some competition or replacing (never been the same since his head injury).

They have a small squad and they need big investment to rebuild as the youth except for one or two isn't coming through. Be a season or two transitional period i think.


We really don't. Two wingers and Chelsea are pretty much sorted. Maybe another right-back.

Villas-Boas would be my choice. There's a report he did for a match in his time at Chelsea - it's remarkable. The guy is going to be one of the great European managers.
#8
Should take ****,sorry Torres with him,they won`t win anything with him there
#9
FilthAndFurry
I remember when Jose Mourinho was sacked. It was a shock and I was sad to see him go.

Right now I'm feeling relieved.

His heart wasnt in it this season or so it looked. When the s*** hit the fan, he didnt have the answers. He has said on more then one occasion that he wants to manage Roma before he retires, and seeing as though Roma are looking for a permanent manager.... Maybe he wanted to be pushed, rather then jump?
[mod]#10
FilthAndFurry
Syzable
FilthAndFurry
Punjab
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.


Awesome prediction. Do you know who the next Chelsea manager will be too? What about the Neymar deal?

(here comes the tumbleweed....)


They need to invest in a fair few areas. Drogba was not even in the squad today and will be off, Torres will get goals when he's not injured or struggling with form (which will be 95% of the time), Fat Frank's best days are gone and Cech needs some competition or replacing (never been the same since his head injury).

They have a small squad and they need big investment to rebuild as the youth except for one or two isn't coming through. Be a season or two transitional period i think.


We really don't. Two wingers and Chelsea are pretty much sorted. Maybe another right-back.

Villas-Boas would be my choice. There's a report he did for a match in his time at Chelsea - it's remarkable. The guy is going to be one of the great European managers.


When the Afica Cup of Nations is on next year Chelsea will be very short on quality again in the centre of midfield so they definately need some of those as well. And if Drogba as expected does go then a strike force of Torres, Anelka, Kalou and possibly Sturridge if he isn't loaned out again is not a very consistent bunch of goalscorers.
banned#11
Syzable
FilthAndFurry
Syzable
FilthAndFurry
Punjab
Chavski will struggle to make top 4 next season.


Awesome prediction. Do you know who the next Chelsea manager will be too? What about the Neymar deal?

(here comes the tumbleweed....)


They need to invest in a fair few areas. Drogba was not even in the squad today and will be off, Torres will get goals when he's not injured or struggling with form (which will be 95% of the time), Fat Frank's best days are gone and Cech needs some competition or replacing (never been the same since his head injury).

They have a small squad and they need big investment to rebuild as the youth except for one or two isn't coming through. Be a season or two transitional period i think.


We really don't. Two wingers and Chelsea are pretty much sorted. Maybe another right-back.

Villas-Boas would be my choice. There's a report he did for a match in his time at Chelsea - it's remarkable. The guy is going to be one of the great European managers.


When the Afica Cup of Nations is on next year Chelsea will be very short on quality again in the centre of midfield so they definately need some of those as well. And if Drogba as expected does go then a strike force of Torres, Anelka, Kalou and possibly Sturridge if he isn't loaned out again is not a very consistent bunch of goalscorers.


Good point. I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed to see Essien go to be honest. He hasn't been the same since his last knee injury. I expect Josh to get a lot more minutes too so maybe just a couple of midfielders.:|
#12
Ruscoe21
Good Riddance. He inherited a great team, with great team spirit from Hiddink. Poor substional choices, and baffling starting team choices / formations this season, looks like he has lost the dressing room to be honest, glad he has gone. Roman needs to invest in team too, bringing in players that will complement the future (Torres) and look to the future. Neymar / Hazard / Sanchez / Kaka / Aguero / Pato. Will need a few of those players. Finally would like to see Hiddink back.


You can buy all those player but you cant buy class.

How can you say he was not good enough. The guy is awesome manager. You have clearly not looked at his CV. Its odd how all the Chelsea fans right behind him last season, soon as you dont win nothing this season, you are all of a sudden haters.

Its good he has left maybe atleast at his next club he gets the respect he deserves.
#13
Overpaid and overrated.

Need somebody that can man-manage players or it will be another season of winning nothing. Half of the squad has seen better days and the other half needs regular games to get any better.

With a bit of luck Sturridge, Kakuta and McEachran will get regular starts next season.
[mod] 1 Like #14
I hope McEachran gets some more opportunities next season as more English talent needs to be given a chance in the Premier League rather than looking for instant fixes.

As a Liverpool fan i'm pleased with how Kenny is blooding the youngsters in the squad as it's the best way to get commited players in your team rather than those looking for the biggest pay packet.
banned 1 Like #15
mighty mugger
Ruscoe21
Good Riddance. He inherited a great team, with great team spirit from Hiddink. Poor substional choices, and baffling starting team choices / formations this season, looks like he has lost the dressing room to be honest, glad he has gone. Roman needs to invest in team too, bringing in players that will complement the future (Torres) and look to the future. Neymar / Hazard / Sanchez / Kaka / Aguero / Pato. Will need a few of those players. Finally would like to see Hiddink back.


You can buy all those player but you cant buy class.

How can you say he was not good enough. The guy is awesome manager. You have clearly not looked at his CV. Its odd how all the Chelsea fans right behind him last season, soon as you dont win nothing this season, you are all of a sudden haters.

Its good he has left maybe atleast at his next club he gets the respect he deserves.


Carlo did get respect. But the performances this year have been atrocious from November onwards.

Stick to watching your wrestling.



Syzable
I hope McEachran gets some more opportunities next season as more English talent needs to be given a chance in the Premier League rather than looking for instant fixes.

As a Liverpool fan i'm pleased with how Kenny is blooding the youngsters in the squad as it's the best way to get commited players in your team rather than those looking for the biggest pay packet.



Have to agree. Josh had a great game last week and was benched this week. If the match matters then why bring on Paulo in a 'farewell' move? If it doesn't then why not give him a try?

Same goes for Bertrand. The decision to let Kakuta go to Fulham (and sit on the bench) and Sturridge go to Bolton when we needed players who could provide width was absurd. So was playing Ferreira in the centre when Bruma was available.

So many baffling decisions.
#16
mighty mugger
Ruscoe21
Good Riddance. He inherited a great team, with great team spirit from Hiddink. Poor substional choices, and baffling starting team choices / formations this season, looks like he has lost the dressing room to be honest, glad he has gone. Roman needs to invest in team too, bringing in players that will complement the future (Torres) and look to the future. Neymar / Hazard / Sanchez / Kaka / Aguero / Pato. Will need a few of those players. Finally would like to see Hiddink back.

You can buy all those player but you cant buy class.

How can you say he was not good enough. The guy is awesome manager. You have clearly not looked at his CV. Its odd how all the Chelsea fans right behind him last season, soon as you dont win nothing this season, you are all of a sudden haters.

Its good he has left maybe atleast at his next club he gets the respect he deserves.

People say if Alex Ferguson has a trophyless season, they wont sack him. But i think Alex Fergusons trophyless seasons havent been filled with pathetic, dis interested performances by his team, and 90% of the time makes the right call in terms of substitutions, and fielding the right team. Ancelotti won the double in his first seasons because the competition from the other teams was pretty poor to be honest. Chelsea were winning 5-0, 6-0, 7-0 left right and centre. This year Ancelotti has been tested, and has been caught out on more then one occassion.He didnt come close to winning anything, end of. Next manager will need TIME and MONEY.
#17
What about the players that left last season, Carvalho, Ballack, Deco, Cole. It's not like they were really replaced, Benayoun was injured soon after joining and Ramires had a faulty starter motor. How many injuries were there to key players also, I think Carlo is a bit unlucky but judging by the way he spoke about his job, he didn't seem to fussed if he was going to be picking up a P45 or not. Whoever does come in will have to focus the team around Torres, perhaps there may be more creative players brought in...
banned#18
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....
banned#19
There is always going to be problems for any manager and his team that has so much influence from its owners. We have seen it at Liverpool and it nearly screwed us, fortunately now we look like we are going in the right direction with our new owner and king kenny back.

Fortunately for Chelsea their owner has unlimited amounts of cash but I also think you have to question the influence....as has been said earlier the youngsters need to be given more opportunity but that is difficult in a star studded squad. Finally who over the past few years have had better managers than Chelsea Mourinho, Hiddinck, Ancelotti are all top managers in their own right, they need no introduction to anyone in Europe and beyond but not good enough to stay at Chelsea, just doesn't seem right...and what happened to 'Butch' disgusting....

Well I think we will have a happier summer and look forward to a new season fingers crossed no distraction of europe will help us challenge for a top four place.

My money is on Van Basten....
banned#20
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....


Roman to cut out the middle man and manage the team himself?
banned#21
Victor Chandler says....

Marco Van Basten 5/2
Andre Villas-Boas 9/4
Harry Redknapp 3/1
Guus Hiddinck 3/1
Jose Mourinho 5/1


Ray Wilkins 25/1 lol

Pretty tight book that which means they don't have a flippin' clue...

I do like your Abramovitch call Master Chief mayeb we put him at about 9/2 eh imagine if Abramovitch had a bet he could bankrupt any bookie he wanted to...lol



Edited By: konimitsu on May 22, 2011 23:46
#22
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....

This did all seem pre meditated. Did you see Ancelotti's interview after MoD, i felt sorry for him, he looked a defeated man, but thatpast few weeks he has been saying "its not up to me".

Didier Drogba, to be player manager, going back to the days of Vialli !!!
#23
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....


Yep., roman is off, taking all his cash leaving chelsea to loiter around mid table where they belong.
#24
Yes, van Basten is the next one for the high wire act.

I don't know if he'll care whether he can choose his squad/purchases/sales. Ancelloti clearly wasn't happy but van Basten may be used to it!
wikipedia ... lol.....He is currently the manager of the English side Chelsea FC.
banned#25
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....

Which story is it then?
banned#26
master_chief
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....


Which story is it then?


Drogba to Galatasaray.
#27
FilthAndFurry
master_chief
FilthAndFurry
Just had an interesting text from a friend 'in the know' about something that should hit the newspapers tomorrow. Big changes.....

Which story is it then?

Drogba to Galatasaray.

As long as its not a Prem club, or Barca or Real then im happy. IF i was Drogba i would stay though. We will still be challenging no matter who comes in, he needs to understand he isnt 26/28 anymore and will get alot less playing time. But his experience will be valuable in both league and europe instead of cashing in on him. Another poor decision by the board if they let Drogba leave, seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back at the moment.
#28
Chelsea have no depth even less so after last summer, there bench is so weak, thats why they started well then dropped off once they got a few injuries and tiredness as no one could step in.
#29
Not sure we will ever know the real reason behind Chelsea's 'failure' this season.

Wilkins departure seemed to be the catalyst and the Torres transfer just makes me think the CA was not in charge of first team matters.

He seemed very fed up in the second half of the season and I presume he knew what was coming.

I too think Chelsea will struggle next season without massive investment. Saying that 'struggle' will still be a top four spot more than likely.
banned#30
greg_68
Not sure we will ever know the real reason behind Chelsea's 'failure' this season.

Wilkins departure seemed to be the catalyst and the Torres transfer just makes me think the CA was not in charge of first team matters.

He seemed very fed up in the second half of the season and I presume he knew what was coming.

I too think Chelsea will struggle next season without massive investment. Saying that 'struggle' will still be a top four spot more than likely.


When you look at our team, it's still pretty solid. Terry and Alex/Luiz is a great centre pairing. Cole is still one of the best in the world. Ivanovic is great and the rumours are Van der Wiel is on the cards. Then there's Bertrand, Bruma and Van Aanholt.

Midfield is a worry and Essien looks done. But Ramires and McEachran are looking great for the future so maybe one or two players brought in there for the African Nations.

Wingers are needed but the rumours are that the Neymar deal is almost done. That leaves Torres, Anelka and Sturridge (hopefully) up front and another winger.

So that's maybe 5 players, all of them hopefully younger than 23.
#31
^^ any rumours about the reason behind Wilkins departure, guy on talksport last night said that there are a few people in the know (including himself) about the real reason he left and he couldn't understand why none of the papers had run with the story.
1 Like #32
If I were a Chelsea fan I would be starting to worry about the way the club is being run. All the managers since Mourinhio have not been given the time to implement their particular approach and structure. If a club is to be (continually) successful managers need to be given time.

In terms of the current side it does need some investment. The big worries would be that Drogba, Lampard and Terry are coming to the end of their careers and will not have the same influence that they wielded when they basically carried the team when the managers were being chopped and changed a few years back. I'd be worried by the way Essien can't seem to recapture his form following his latest injury, and I don't think Chelsea will ever see the best of Torres.

Should make the battle for a top four spot very interesting next season
banned#33
roryk83
If I were a Chelsea fan I would be starting to worry about the way the club is being run. All the managers since Mourinhio have not been given the time to implement their particular approach and structure. If a club is to be (continually) successful managers need to be given time.


Which modern club are you comparing us to?

The Chelsea team were poor this year. There were a number of baffling decisions by Ancelotti in every game. If he can't win the league in a season like this with the players and resources at his disposal then you have to wonder what his big plan was.

Having said that I would love for us to hire Villas Boas and give him time to build the club. The guy is something special.
#34
To be honest I'd have thought Chelsea would be aiming a little higher then Boas, yes he maybe the next big thing in the future but RA wants it NOW. Boas has done well in his own league but hardly has a lot of other European football experience.

Would it be worth the risk?
banned#35
greg_68
To be honest I'd have thought Chelsea would be aiming a little higher then Boas, yes he maybe the next big thing in the future but RA wants it NOW. Boas has done well in his own league but hardly has a lot of other European football experience.

Would it be worth the risk?


He knows the club too and is very highly regarded. He's basically a football nerd. He speaks brilliant English and he speaks sense. I think he might stick around at Porto for another year though, so maybe we bring in Guus for a year, install Franco as his assistant and then get Villas Boas next season.

That would be my ideal plan. That and Neymar, Lukaku, Van Der Wiel, Bruyne and A.N.Other.
#36
FilthAndFurry
greg_68
To be honest I'd have thought Chelsea would be aiming a little higher then Boas, yes he maybe the next big thing in the future but RA wants it NOW. Boas has done well in his own league but hardly has a lot of other European football experience.

Would it be worth the risk?

He knows the club too and is very highly regarded. He's basically a football nerd. He speaks brilliant English and he speaks sense. I think he might stick around at Porto for another year though, so maybe we bring in Guus for a year, install Franco as his assistant and then get Villas Boas next season.

That would be my ideal plan. That and Neymar, Lukaku, Van Der Wiel, Bruyne and A.N.Other.

Well Ancelotti out the door means less chance of seeing Kaka or Pato at the Bridge. I dont see the point buying Lakaku though. If we want to build the team around Torres then when buy a Drogba to reaplace the Drogba that is likely to leave? Van Der Wield makes sense, and i havent heard of Bruyne, but i would personally love to see Aguero come over along with Hazard and Neymar. That would be a strike for to fear. Aguero and Torres are similar sorts of players and i think they will compliment each other well, both learning their traites at Athletico.
banned#37
FilthAndFurry
Villas Boas......He knows the club too and is very highly regarded


7 managers in 8 years is the problem here, I have a feeling everyone of them was highly regarded and if not then why were they hired in the first place?

Chelsea are not invincible because of the amount of cash the owner has, it seems to me that Chelsea are a billionaires toy, to play with how he chooses. Was Torres an RA or an Ancelotti signing?

Too much interference in team matters and big signings instead of maybe spreading the cash around 2 or 3 players is always going to be a problem for any manager. Whoever takes over the first thing the bookmakers will do is open a book on how long he will last.

Next year if not before this scenario of who will be the next Chelsea manager will be with us yet again.

Manchester city will likely have the same problem with their billionaire owner using them as his toy. Look at sir Alex at Man Utd how many years he has served, look at how many managers other successful teams from the past have had...I do not think you will ever find a great successful team that has seen 7 managers in 8 years.
1 Like #38
FilthAndFurry
roryk83
If I were a Chelsea fan I would be starting to worry about the way the club is being run. All the managers since Mourinhio have not been given the time to implement their particular approach and structure. If a club is to be (continually) successful managers need to be given time.


Which modern club are you comparing us to?

The Chelsea team were poor this year. There were a number of baffling decisions by Ancelotti in every game. If he can't win the league in a season like this with the players and resources at his disposal then you have to wonder what his big plan was.
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Well if we take the Champs League final teams as an example (seeing as that is the ultimate goal for Ambrovich), both Fergie and Guardialoa have been given time to implement their own structures and teams. All the players respect their manager unconditionally. The managers are never undermined by the owners. It is a consistent approach and surprise surprise it works


Edited By: roryk83 on May 23, 2011 12:20
#39
Chelsea are a mess tbh. Their only strategy appears to be to throw money around and hope for the best. They could easily splash millions on the likes of Neymar and Kaka, but if they aren't successful in the Premier League or play like Torres then what? There's barely any youth coming through, and the youth they do have aren't nutured and bought through, they just have to wait on the bench as another big signing is made and put in ahead of them. Add to that the core of the team are ageing and the lack of depth and there are problems.

Then again the big signings could be huge successes and Chelsea end up winning the title by miles. This summer really is important for all of the top 4 because they all need to make signings, and any bad signings could cost them their place in the top 4.
banned#40
Also which of the top four will make way for Liverpool? Problems with owners sorted out, Suarez and Carrol in for same price almost as Torres out and I know I would rather have them 2 than Torres, in fact I would rather have just Suarez than Torres.

Liverpool are not likely to make the step to champions next year but a team with the confidence they have, a few new signings coming in the summer, the youngsters coming through and doing good and very importantly the possiblity of 18 / 19 games less than those in the top 5 well I think 4th place as a target is realistic......write Liverpool off at your peril as someone is going to have to make way. It will not be United, so City, Chelsea, Arsenal any 1 from 3...

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