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way too many companies making profit out of ppls needs and suffering http://www.franchisedirect.co.uk/vendingfranchises/snak-appeal-franchise-07249/ Read More
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
way too many companies making profit out of ppls needs and suffering

http://www.franchisedirect.co.uk/vendingfranchises/snak-appeal-franchise-07249/
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Even worse are the people raising money for charity but the initial £1000+ pays for them to tour machu pichu or some other adventure and they hide the fact they are getting a free holiday in the small print.
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totally disgusting

fed up with the state of charities in this country, national charities paying 60 - 80 % on themselves before they spend a penny on what they are supposed to be helping

Edited By: miles136 on May 05, 2017 04:14: m
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I am setting up my own charity, it will support me in a new life style

100% of all money raised will go directly to me no middle ppl taking their cut, me and only me will get the money

the aim of the charity is to allow me to live the life style I was born to live

£25 will get my eyebrows shaped
£50 will get me a decent hair cut
£75 a nice bottle of champers
£750 a nights stay at an ok hotel
£20k a weeks holiday with out having to stay with the hoy poloy
£2m a little villa in Florida

please pledge as much as you can then a little bit more

Reg charity no 8080808080 honest

Edited By: miles136 on May 05, 2017 04:06: May 05, 2017 04:06
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Yes. The words 'all our profits go directly to the people in need' nicely hide the fact of how high their ' costs' ( i.e. Salaries, jaunts, jollys) are, before profit

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totally disgusting

fed up with the state of charities in this country, national charities paying 60 - 80 % on themselves before they spend a penny on what they are supposed to be helping

Edited By: miles136 on May 05, 2017 04:14: m
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I am setting up my own charity, it will support me in a new life style

100% of all money raised will go directly to me no middle ppl taking their cut, me and only me will get the money

the aim of the charity is to allow me to live the life style I was born to live

£25 will get my eyebrows shaped
£50 will get me a decent hair cut
£75 a nice bottle of champers
£750 a nights stay at an ok hotel
£20k a weeks holiday with out having to stay with the hoy poloy
£2m a little villa in Florida

please pledge as much as you can then a little bit more

Reg charity no 8080808080 honest

Edited By: miles136 on May 05, 2017 04:06: May 05, 2017 04:06
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clearly needs the charity commission to seek ability to regulate harder.
2 Likes #4
downinone
miles136
I am setting up my own charity, it will support me in a new life style
100% of all money raised will go directly to me no middle ppl taking their cut, me and only me will get the money
the aim of the charity is to allow me to live the life style I was born to live
£25 will get my eyebrows shaped
£50 will get me a decent hair cut
£75 a nice bottle of champers
£750 a nights stay at an ok hotel
£20k a weeks holiday with out having to stay with the hoy poloy
£2m a little villa in Florida
please pledge as much as you can then a little bit more
Reg charity no 8080808080 honest
Drunk again?

m8 I hardly ever drink and when I do I hardly ever get drunk and by assuming I am drunk says more about you than it does about me

Edited By: miles136 on May 05, 2017 04:36: m
#5
davewave
clearly needs the charity commission to seek ability to regulate harder.

they do not care, steal 1p and they are all over you anything else is fine
1 Like #6
Thats why I look into how much the charity gives, and I favorite one or two, and anyone besides these two come knocking I don't give them because I don't have time to research them. If you ask them they tell you a long story before getting to the point lol
1 Like #7
MR1123
Thats why I look into how much the charity gives, and I favorite one or two, and anyone besides these two come knocking I don't give them because I don't have time to research them. If you ask them they tell you a long story before getting to the point lol

I have also noticed of late collectors in town saying "would you like to support sick children" I always go and ask them what charity they represent and how much of the collection goes to the charity, not one has given a good answer
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Even worse are the people raising money for charity but the initial £1000+ pays for them to tour machu pichu or some other adventure and they hide the fact they are getting a free holiday in the small print.
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chocci
Even worse are the people raising money for charity but the initial £1000+ pays for them to tour machu pichu or some other adventure and they hide the fact they are getting a free holiday in the small print.

those are very bad because every part of that is profit driven
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Yes. The words 'all our profits go directly to the people in need' nicely hide the fact of how high their ' costs' ( i.e. Salaries, jaunts, jollys) are, before profit
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Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?
#12
davewave
Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?

its in their accounts but again they can hide this info

say they run a holliday project they will claim the staff as part of the provision-

Holliday £1,000
Staff member £100 (part of the salary of that staff members time)
the managers time £200
The area managers time £300
Fundraising teams time £300
On costs, office, equipment £500
other national staff £100
CEO £100

so you raise £2,600, and they can claim 100% of what they raise goes on the project, but you and I would only think £1,000 was spent on the project, so if they were honest they should say about 60% is spent on admin = 30% on direct service provision

All charity must have an admin cost but the key is to keep it low

one charity I know of in 2006 spent £15m on services and it cost them £4m to deliver that. now they take in £94m but only provide 1/3 of the services they did in 2006
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charities see themselves as corporate, and have got rid of local volunteers and replaced them with paid staff and do not believe they are any better at saving money, they are not, meetings with expensive catering, first class train travel or even flying, from London to, Manchester, Newcastle, Edinburgh, paid lunches, posh and expensive London offices, area offices, regional officers local officers, the list goes on, all while standing there with tears in their eyes tell us to give to their client group
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davewave
Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-

Charity
Annual income
% spending on charitable activies
No. of staff paid over £60,000




Cancer Research
£493m
70%
160

Oxfam
£386m
76%
35

Save the Children
£333m
89%
31

British Heart Foundation
£250m
46%
36

Barnardo's
£245m
80%
35

Royal Mencap Society
£201m
96%
39

British Red Cross
£200m
67%
32

Action for Children
£198m
93%
38

RNLI
£173m
78%
42

Age UK
£168m
49%
41
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Royal Opera house charity paid its ceo £750,000 salary last year!
#16
chocci
davewave
Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-
Charity
Annual income
% spending on charitable activies
No. of staff paid over £60,000
Cancer Research
£493m
70%
160
Oxfam
£386m
76%
35
Save the Children
£333m
89%
31
British Heart Foundation
£250m
46%
36
Barnardo's
£245m
80%
35
Royal Mencap Society
£201m
96%
39
British Red Cross
£200m
67%
32
Action for Children
£198m
93%
38
RNLI
£173m
78%
42
Age UK
£168m
49%
41

some of these spends on service provision are suspiciously high, bet they are adding in all sorts to make it higher as per my point above
#17
chocci
Royal Opera house charity paid its ceo £750,000 salary last year!

oOoO

total disgrace
#18
... and the Blue Cross has its headquarters in Burford!! Say no more... :|
1 Like #19
We have these at work I knew it wouldn't be much but that's disgusting how little is donated.
1 Like #20
miles136
chocci
Royal Opera house charity paid its ceo £750,000 salary last year!

oOoO

total disgrace


Exactly. The 'profits' , like any business, self-employed builder, shop, anything.. are what's left after all costs have been deducted. And they themselves can decide what the 'costs' are.
How to avoid giving your hard-earned cash to some over-paid Etonian?
Hmmm , at a guess, I'd say that the bigger the organisation, the more opportunities for pointless chains of communications/ meetings, and money being spent without much result ( think NHS?)
Not a popular view on here, but giving charity money to the local church is best for me. For example, one one of the things my church funds is a streetboy's home in Chenai. Running costs are free ( church members) or extremely cheap ( helpers are given food and shelter).
4 Likes #21
Omg!!! I had a massive respect for the charities till this post highlighted the bitter truth. It is seriously disgusting. But the question is what are our options???
2 Likes #22
chocci
Royal Opera house charity paid its ceo £750,000 salary last year!
Wow!!
1 Like #23
Roofi
Omg!!! I had a massive respect for the charities till this post highlighted the bitter truth. It is seriously disgusting. But the question is what are our options???
Agreed... who to reward as a well run charity?
1 Like #24
chocci
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-

Do 'charitable activities' include adverts? I seem to remember Childrens charities in particular spending insane amounts on guilt tripping adverts

Back on topic Snak Appeal give 67% of net profit away, not a sum per unit. No profit, no donation. Would be very easy for them to raise their salaries to eat up this profit. Charging 50p wholesale for a cheap bag of sweets is also obscene (bags of sweets like this are 3 for a pound in supermarkets).

Edited By: abigsmurf on May 05, 2017 09:19
#25
I don't give to charity! No problem :D
#26
cowcrazy
We have these at work I knew it wouldn't be much but that's disgusting how little is donated.


But it won't stop you buying sweets! So if they doubled the price would you still buy .... the charity would get more!
#27
miles136
chocci
Royal Opera house charity paid its ceo £750,000 salary last year!
oOoO
total disgrace
Even more so when you consider most of their funding comes from tax payers.

Jobs for the boys and filtering money from the poor to the rich
1 Like #28
Charities spending up to 90 per cent of fundraised income on direct mail costs, commission finds

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/charities-spending-90-per-cent-fundraised-income-direct-mail-costs-commission-finds/governance/article/1396916

oO
#29
m4rky2011
I don't give to charity! No problem :D
If you pay taxes, you do....

Wasnt it something like £13,000,000,000 we gave to foreign aid last year?

India even had parliamentary debate whether they could lower themselves to accept our £300,000,000 'donation'!

Obviously, they took it ;)


Edited By: chocci on May 05, 2017 12:05
#30
I just give to food bank and thats not money i give. I have given to people like spana i think they are called, i did like the WISPA appeal for making fluffy nose guards for donkeys and sending them in but it must be remembered that they do need some money for distribution of things too
#31
chocci
davewave
Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-

Charity
Annual income
% spending on charitable activies
No. of staff paid over £60,000




Cancer Research
£493m
70%
160

Oxfam
£386m
76%
35

Save the Children
£333m
89%
31

British Heart Foundation
£250m
46%
36

Barnardo's
£245m
80%
35

Royal Mencap Society
£201m
96%
39

British Red Cross
£200m
67%
32

Action for Children
£198m
93%
38

RNLI
£173m
78%
42

Age UK
£168m
49%
41

I walked past a British heart Foundation shop the other day, it was the second hand furniture and i cant fathom how they can charge so much for that stuff, £95 for a crap looking sofa, rather buy a cheap one from IKEA, last time i was in there they had a ex display one for £30.
#32
abigsmurf
chocci
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-
Do 'charitable activities' include adverts? I seem to remember Childrens charities in particular spending insane amounts on guilt tripping adverts
Back on topic Snak Appeal give 67% of net profit away, not a sum per unit. No profit, no donation. Would be very easy for them to raise their salaries to eat up this profit. Charging 50p wholesale for a cheap bag of sweets is also obscene (bags of sweets like this are 3 for a pound in supermarkets).

Yes they do as this is classed as raising awareness of the charity and it's aims.

Currently a national charity has a TV add costing £2m it just raises awareness of a disease we all know about
1 Like #33
Roofi
Omg!!! I had a massive respect for the charities till this post highlighted the bitter truth. It is seriously disgusting. But the question is what are our options???

Sometimes a small local charity is best but again u should get as much info as u can. All organisations have to pay something for running costs but the big boys take the pee layers of management then all the red tape they are not good value for money
#34
Error440
chocci
davewave
Is there any way to work out those charities which spend a higher % of the donations on the needy rather than trustees?
Some here (British Heart Foundation figures are awful ) :-
Charity
Annual income
% spending on charitable activies
No. of staff paid over £60,000
Cancer Research
£493m
70%
160
Oxfam
£386m
76%
35
Save the Children
£333m
89%
31
British Heart Foundation
£250m
46%
36
Barnardo's
£245m
80%
35
Royal Mencap Society
£201m
96%
39
British Red Cross
£200m
67%
32
Action for Children
£198m
93%
38
RNLI
£173m
78%
42
Age UK
£168m
49%
41
I walked past a British heart Foundation shop the other day, it was the second hand furniture and i cant fathom how they can charge so much for that stuff, £95 for a crap looking sofa, rather buy a cheap one from IKEA, last time i was in there they had a ex display one for £30.

They charge that because they hope they will get it, the clue being 'charity shop' and of course if they don't sell they will just reduce it until they do.

Buying from ikea, money does not go to charity!
#35
Most "charities" in the uk are just money raising big business scams that pay their exectuves a small fortune whilst hoodwinking the gulluble public into thinking their donations are solely used to only help the neady.
#36
hooray.henry
Most "charities" in the uk are just money raising big business scams that pay their exectuves a small fortune whilst hoodwinking the gulluble public into thinking their donations are solely used to only help the neady.

It's not just charities that pay their chief execs a fortune, all business do.

Not all public are gullible, charities do display information about where the money goes which is readily available on websites for folk to look up.

I work for a charity and very proud to do so.


Edited By: takethatfan1978 on May 05, 2017 17:27
#37
All charities shoud be made to display on fundraising material (in big letters) what amount or % of funds raised are given to the charity.
3 Likes #38
The charity workers who get my upmost respect are the ones that volunteer for no pay and the ones that only get paid the living wage or lower. Big charities are just corporations now with over paid execs and spend vast amounts of peoples well meant donations on running costs and expenses.
#39
Sure i remember seeing a program where they said that legally the charities only needed to spend 18% of the revenue on charitable actions. i.e Water Aid only need to spend 18% of money taken on trying to provide clean water.
2 Likes #40
its the same with the clothes collection companies. Give very little to charities but use their name.
Charities can't say no as its extra money for their cause but they get very little. :(

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