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My son had chicken pox when he was three , hes just turned six and this morning getting him ready for school i noticed his stomach and chest were covered in spots !! I have kept him off school and can… Read More
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
My son had chicken pox when he was three , hes just turned six and this morning getting him ready for school i noticed his stomach and chest were covered in spots !! I have kept him off school and cant get a docs appointment until this afternoon, so just thought i would ask here before doc tells me more, just panicking that it could be measles! ( he's had the mmr) can he still get measles ? and am i right in thinking you cant get chicken pox twice?
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#1
You can get chicken pox twice, my son had them as a baby but again a few weeks back.
#2
really !!!, i thought you could only get them once and then as an adult in the form of Shingles ?
thanks for info girls , chicken pox has been going round ,and i rather it be that than measles , will still take docs to double check !
banned#3
most doctors will say you cannot get them twice, usually mis diagnosed the 1st time, and most people whose chidren do get chicken pox dont even bother with a gp unless its bad, a virus can give the same symptoms and spots as chicken pox hence being mis diagnosed
#4
Yes you can get them twice or it may be viral? Only way to know for sure is a trip to your GP
banned#5
As a piece of non-condescending advice may I point you to the NHS website for all future ailments in your family rather than a deals forum.

NHS
#6
mmm, the viral thing is a possibility (although he's fine in himself, no other symptoms) lol,he's busy throwing his power rangers all over the floor as we speak, and lively as ever !
Mind you a little boy of 4 at the school i work at asked me for a drink of water, then collapsed in my arms, went the colour of boiled sh*te, lips went blue!, mum came for him , he was rushed to hospital half an hour later !!, all sorts of tests later and they said it was viral !!, he was back in school 2 days later!, i'm hoping i am not picking things up at school and infecting my kids, mind you i dont think the little boy had spots though , will have to check that out ! ,
#7
master_chief
As a piece of non-condescending advice may I point you to the NHS website for all future ailments in your family rather than a deals forum.NHS

my oh my was waiting for the first one !!!( rolling of eyes !!)
I have a doctors appointment later on today !!, i have googled for info and ive also been on the nhs website, plus looked through the book !!, but getting conflicting answers !!, so just thought i would ask some NICE/HELPFUL people on here for any advice or past experience thats all !! i thought that what we did on here HELP people !!, So its ok to post endless football,i phone,threads but a worried mum cant ask for a bit of advice whilst waithing to go docs !!!!!

rant over !
#8
I had them twice
[mod][Moderator]#9
You can definately get them twice, my son had a very mild infection when he was a toddler, unfortunately contracted them when he was 15 very badly 2 yrs ago, it is much better to have the 2nd infection when they are younger as it can cause many complications in a teen/adult, it doesn't affect you but if a child hasn't contracted chicken pox or only had a very mild episode by the time they go to secondary school, you can ask the GP to carry out a blood test to check for immunity, there is a vaccine available, but has to be paid for in this country and has it's own side effects, but in my personal experience if my younger children haven't had it by then, thats the route I will be going, I wouldn't wish the nightmare my son is having on anyone, and the vaccine is not widely publicised.
#10
tinkerbell28
Obviously as you are going to the dr's anyhow it's a moot point. But yes you can get chickenpox twice if the first time was especially mild in most cases.My son had it twice, he definately had chicken pox even though he only had 3 tiny spots which looked like heat rash that came out a day into our holiday. Towards the end of the two week stay our other son came out in it badly delaying our return home! I knew at the time the mild case was chicken pox as seen it hundereds of times so kept him away from pools etc but easy thing to miss.He had it again this year! But your dr will tell you if it's that or a virus or what not.

Cheers tinkerbell, thats what i read ( if got it mildly first time ) the thing is he was absolutly covered the first time, in his mouth, head everywhere ! so thats what making me wonder !
#11
wishihadadonkey
You can definately get them twice, my son had a very mild infection when he was a toddler, unfortunately contracted them when he was 15 very badly 2 yrs ago, it is much better to have the 2nd infection when they are younger as it can cause many complications in a teen/adult, it doesn't affect you but if a child hasn't contracted chicken pox or only had a very mild episode by the time they go to secondary school, you can ask the GP to carry out a blood test to check for immunity, there is a vaccine available, but has to be paid for in this country and has it's own side effects, but in my personal experience if my younger children haven't had it by then, thats the route I will be going, I wouldn't wish the nightmare my son is having on anyone, and the vaccine is not widely publicised.

Thanks for that onfo, will look into that as although my son had it pretty bad when he was three, my daughter who is 10 had them it very mild when she was 5 , (about 6 spots on stomach) so much so i was even doubting if she had it but doc said she did , so the vaccine may be an option for her ( unless she catches it off her brother now if he does have it again !) kids eh , lol
#12
my daughter had a viral infection few weeks back, she was covered in spots everywhere, even on the bottom of her feet, her face was a mess, they said that was a viral infection. she was fine in herself, shes had this twice and shes only 10months old, its always a worry when they have a rash.
#13
Am i being stupid, but is Chickenpox not a viral infection?
#14
tinkerbell28
dungavel
Am i being stupid, but is Chickenpox not a viral infection?


Well yes it's caused by a virus but it's also a highly infectious disease.

You can get viral rashes from run of the mill viruses we all pick up a couple of times a year, it's your body reating to it. It's quite important to know which you have.


So i wasn't being obtuse when i read that instead of chicken pox it could be a virus. Good to here.
banned#15
shopstilldrops
master_chief
As a piece of non-condescending advice may I point you to the NHS website for all future ailments in your family rather than a deals forum.NHS


my oh my was waiting for the first one !!!( rolling of eyes !!)
I have a doctors appointment later on today !!, i have googled for info and ive also been on the nhs website, plus looked through the book !!, but getting conflicting answers !!, so just thought i would ask some NICE/HELPFUL people on here for any advice or past experience thats all !! i thought that what we did on here HELP people !!, So its ok to post endless football,i phone,threads but a worried mum cant ask for a bit of advice whilst waithing to go docs !!!!!

rant over !


NHS site does not give conflicting answers. It says you can get chicken pox more than once thus answering your question. Quite how you can deem the NHS to give conflicting advice then expect to get a definitive answer from here I don't know :eyes rolling so much I'm giving myself a headache:
#16
master_chief
shopstilldrops
master_chief
As a piece of non-condescending advice may I point you to the NHS website for all future ailments in your family rather than a deals forum.NHS
my oh my was waiting for the first one !!!( rolling of eyes !!)I have a doctors appointment later on today !!, i have googled for info and ive also been on the nhs website, plus looked through the book !!, but getting conflicting answers !!, so just thought i would ask some NICE/HELPFUL people on here for any advice or past experience thats all !! i thought that what we did on here HELP people !!, So its ok to post endless football,i phone,threads but a worried mum cant ask for a bit of advice whilst waithing to go docs !!!!! rant over !
NHS site does not give conflicting answers. It says you can get chicken pox more than once thus answering your question. Quite how you can deem the NHS to give conflicting advice then expect to get a definitive answer from here I don't know :eyes rolling so much I'm giving myself a headache:


giving me a headache too !!, i was merely asking for a bit of advice from people who may have children who have had chicken pox twice thats all ! , and yes the nhs did say that, but some other medical sites said different so thats were the confliction came in ( pulling tongues ) AND ( eyes rolling that much there stuck the back of my head !!!)

lol
banned#17
tinkerbell28
shopstilldrops
giving me a headache too !!, i was merely asking for a bit of advice from people who may have children who have had chicken pox twice thats all ! , and yes the nhs did say that, but some other medical sites said different so thats were the confliction came in ( pulling tongues ) AND ( eyes rolling that much there stuck the back of my head !!!) lol
master_chief
null


Yeah I know what you mean, it would have been different if you popped on and said my DC is bleeding/rash/puking is it such and such please advise. Oh I haven't phoned a gp yet, thought I'd ask here first!

You'd already sorted out the gp appt just asked if you can get cp twice or not! Not asking anyone to play at dr's and nurses.


Which the NHS site already answers for you...
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most doctors will say you cannot get them twice, usually mis diagnosed the 1st time, and most people whose chidren do get chicken pox dont even bother with a gp unless its bad, a virus can give the same symptoms and spots as chicken pox hence being mis diagnosed

Yes the Herpes-Zoster Virus aka Shingles. Once the child or adult has contracted Chickenpox, the varicella-zoster virus remains dormant in the body. Occasionally the virus re-activates (usually when an adult) and becomes Shingles. The infection has similar symptoms to Chickenpox, an itchy rash around the chest, neck and / or stomach.

Anyhow good luck with your GP, and hope you son gets better quickly.
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nemesiz
most doctors will say you cannot get them twice, usually mis diagnosed the 1st time, and most people whose chidren do get chicken pox dont even bother with a gp unless its bad, a virus can give the same symptoms and spots as chicken pox hence being mis diagnosed
Yes the Herpes-Zoster Virus aka Shingles. Once the child or adult has contracted Chickenpox, the varicella-zoster virus remains dormant in the body. Occasionally the virus re-activates (usually when an adult) and becomes Shingles. The infection has similar symptoms to Chickenpox, an itchy rash around the chest, neck and / or stomach. Anyhow good luck with your GP, and hope you son gets better quickly.


I'm sorry I have to disagree with you completely, my son had chickenpox as a toddler very mildly, he then contracted it again very badly at 15yrs, it certainly wasn't shingles, it was chickenpox, it affected his health so badly at the time he was hospitalised, and has now longterm health problems which has led to him being in a wheelchair, his consultant Professor Anthony Pinching ( assoc Dean of Peninsula Medical School, Hon Consultant in Clinical Immunology ) has spent many years researching the connection between my sons particular illness and a 2nd nastier bout of chicken pox, until the last few years it hasn't been widely publicised/recognised that this can happen ( I was a RGN for 22 years and until April 08 I didn't know this was possible )
#20
Well guys , im miffed, went to the docs this afternoon (spots hadnt got any worse since this morning btw ) , and he's still as lively as ever !
Showed doc his stomach/chest and back and he said 'chicken pox'! i then said even though he had it when he was 3, doc looks on pc at sons history and says ' oh , indeed he did, it therefore cannot be chicken pox ' i asked why and he explained once you get chicken pox you build up an immunity to it in childhood but can develop it again in the form of shingles in later life ! He took his temp asked other general questions ,and as i said he was well in himself etc he seemed stumped !!, but he has pescribed him penicillen (just incase ) he said , WHY , ? but he honestly couldnt give me an answer for the spots ( especially with him being well in himself ) but he said it definatly couldnt be chicken pox again !!!! just going to keep an eye on him for next day or so and see , if still not happy then off back to the docs we go !!!
#21
master_chief
tinkerbell28
shopstilldrops
giving me a headache too !!, i was merely asking for a bit of advice from people who may have children who have had chicken pox twice thats all ! , and yes the nhs did say that, but some other medical sites said different so thats were the confliction came in ( pulling tongues ) AND ( eyes rolling that much there stuck the back of my head !!!) lol
master_chief
null
Yeah I know what you mean, it would have been different if you popped on and said my DC is bleeding/rash/puking is it such and such please advise. Oh I haven't phoned a gp yet, thought I'd ask here first!You'd already sorted out the gp apptjust asked if you can get cp twice or not! Not asking anyone to play at dr's and nurses.
Which the NHS site already answers for you...

yes Master -chief can you see how frustrating it is now ??? the doctors have told me completely different from the nhs website !! so who do you believe, especially when its a young child involved ! so the more answers you get the better !!!
look at poor wishihadadonkeys situation , you cant be to careful , imo
banned#22
shopstilldrops
master_chief
tinkerbell28
shopstilldrops
giving me a headache too !!, i was merely asking for a bit of advice from people who may have children who have had chicken pox twice thats all ! , and yes the nhs did say that, but some other medical sites said different so thats were the confliction came in ( pulling tongues ) AND ( eyes rolling that much there stuck the back of my head !!!) lol
master_chief
null
Yeah I know what you mean, it would have been different if you popped on and said my DC is bleeding/rash/puking is it such and such please advise. Oh I haven't phoned a gp yet, thought I'd ask here first!You'd already sorted out the gp apptjust asked if you can get cp twice or not! Not asking anyone to play at dr's and nurses.
Which the NHS site already answers for you...


yes Master -chief can you see how frustrating it is now ??? the doctors have told me completely different from the nhs website !! so who do you believe, especially when its a young child involved ! so the more answers you get the better !!!
look at poor wishihadadonkeys situation , you cant be to careful , imo


NHS website acknowledges that opinions are split on the subject so you've still learned nothing new today after checking on here and the doctors that the NHS wouldn't have told you.
#23
nemesiz
most doctors will say you cannot get them twice, usually mis diagnosed the 1st time, and most people whose chidren do get chicken pox dont even bother with a gp unless its bad, a virus can give the same symptoms and spots as chicken pox hence being mis diagnosed
Yes the Herpes-Zoster Virus aka Shingles. Once the child or adult has contracted Chickenpox, the varicella-zoster virus remains dormant in the body. Occasionally the virus re-activates (usually when an adult) and becomes Shingles. The infection has similar symptoms to Chickenpox, an itchy rash around the chest, neck and / or stomach. Anyhow good luck with your GP, and hope you son gets better quickly.


Thanks for your good wishes x and i think what you said made more sense than what the doctor was trying to say in his medical term , lol, cheers
#24
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you completely, my son had chickenpox as a toddler very mildly, he then contracted it again very badly at 15yrs, it certainly wasn't shingles, it was chickenpox, it affected his health so badly at the time he was hospitalised, and has now longterm health problems which has led to him being in a wheelchair, his consultant Professor Anthony Pinching ( assoc Dean of Peninsula Medical School, Hon Consultant in Clinical Immunology ) has spent many years researching the connection between my sons particular illness and a 2nd nastier bout of chicken pox, until the last few years it hasn't been widely publicised/recognised that this can happen ( I was a RGN for 22 years and until April 08 I didn't know this was possible )

No, I wasn't disagreeing with the person but indicating another plausible reason, as it was a general discussion about possible conditions and whether Children can get Chicken Pox again. In no way was it to infer that it was the diagnosis, so please don't take it as such, and accept my apology but wasn't making that insinuation. My comment was in reply to the user last sentence about a virus that has a similar appearance to the Chicken Pox virus. Also when myself and others replied we also knew that the child was being taken to the Doctors for a check-up.
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Thanks for your good wishes x and i think what you said made more sense than what the doctor was trying to say in his medical term , lol, cheers

Ah yes the dreaded medical terminology, sometimes you wish they would speak in plain english that us simple mortals could follow. Seriously if you are ever worried the doctor, practise nurse or a similar professional should be able to help explain the condition and consequences and hopefully alleve some of the worry.

Well guys , im miffed, went to the docs this afternoon (spots hadnt got any worse since this morning btw ) , and he's still as lively as ever !
Showed doc his stomach/chest and back and he said 'chicken pox'! i then said even though he had it when he was 3, doc looks on pc at sons history and says ' oh , indeed he did, it therefore cannot be chicken pox ' i asked why and he explained once you get chicken pox you build up an immunity to it in childhood but can develop it again in the form of shingles in later life ! He took his temp asked other general questions ,and as i said he was well in himself etc he seemed stumped !!, but he has pescribed him penicillen (just incase ) he said , WHY , ? but he honestly couldnt give me an answer for the spots ( especially with him being well in himself ) but he said it definatly couldnt be chicken pox again !!!! just going to keep an eye on him for next day or so and see , if still not happy then off back to the docs we go !!!


Lets hope the Penicillin works and he makes a quick recovery, as we all can understand your anxiety, and worry especially as we've all been in a similar situation with close family and relations.

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