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CNN fires Donna Brazile for leaking questions in advance to Hillary Clinton

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CNN has dropped Donna Brazile (Clinton supporter and advisor to Bill) a political commentator following accusations that she sent Hillary Clinton two questions ahead of time during the primary season… Read More
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
CNN has dropped Donna Brazile (Clinton supporter and advisor to Bill) a political commentator following accusations that she sent Hillary Clinton two questions ahead of time during the primary season.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/hillary-clinton-donna-brazile-cnn-political-commentator-spring-debate-question-wikileaks-john-a7389886.html

No doubt Clinton will spin this, but she can't avoid the fact that she was party to the deception.
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6m, 3w agoPosted 6 months, 3 weeks ago
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1 Like #1
Getting the impression you're not too keen on Hillary, Pred'; is that because you're a Trump supporter . . . . or you just see him as the lesser of two evils?
#2
I dont like or trust either of them but if I were eligible to vote & I dont agree wirh alot of his idea's but I'd vote trump
#3
tryn2help
Getting the impression you're not too keen on Hillary, Pred'; is that because you're a Trump supporter . . . . or you just see him as the lesser of two evils?

I think the best man should be in the Whitehouse.

Serious though, it is the lesser of two evils. It's going to be tough ride for whoever wins.
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I believe democracy is most probably the best system available to us, but in this scenario where it's a bit like going to a sewage works and being invited to 'pick your poison' and dine on it - I'd prefer not to pick any poison.

To me, this is about as close to a democracy fail as is possible. :(

Edited By: tryn2help on Nov 01, 2016 15:55
#5
I know they are all proud to be American's,
I'm glad I'm not.
I think if I was I would be looking at who's pulling the strings and not the puppet.
#6
I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.

I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.

It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
Immigration, threat of immigration, fear of immigration?
#8
tryn2help
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I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
Immigration, threat of immigration, fear of immigration?

Yeah but I always thought we as a nation were better than that. I thought we were much more 'stiff upper lipped' than to be frightened or scared into voting by tabloid scaremongering.

As much as I love this great country I do feel like something's changing in a large amount of people. Ok we've always liked a bit of a moan but that's part of our charm and it was usually just about the weather. Now there's a real sense of bitterness and division in some people.

We were a nation that celebrated endeavour, discovery, science and rational thought - now we seem to deride those qualities or look on them as weird.

We seem to have turned on intellect and expertise where we once embraced them. Maybe it's a cultural thing driven by a type of media where ignorance is seemingly celebrated. Who knows?
#9
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I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.

For me it's not really Republican or Democrate. What I dislike is Hillary Clinton's Communist philosophy. Both she and Obama are a fan of Saul Alinsky (Marxist). Alinsky, in his book 'Rules for Radicals' (dedicated to Lucifer) stated that left-wing agitators should do as much as they can to thwart capitalism in every nation. It's almost like Obama and Clinton are living according to the script suggested in the book.
I would apply the same reasoning to politics in our own country. I am opposed to communism on all levels.
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Yeah but I always thought we as a nation were better than that. I thought we were much more 'stiff upper lipped' than to be frightened or scared into voting by tabloid scaremongering.
As much as I love this great country I do feel like something's changing in a large amount of people. Ok we've always liked a bit of a moan but that's part of our charm and it was usually just about the weather. Now there's a real sense of bitterness and division in some people.
We were a nation that celebrated endeavour, discovery, science and rational thought - now we seem to deride those qualities or look on them as weird.
We seem to have turned on intellect and expertise where we once embraced them. Maybe it's a cultural thing driven by a type of media where ignorance is seemingly celebrated. Who knows?
People are working harder than ever these days, they've got no time to think so they allow others to do their thinking for them, hence easily led/misled by small group of media moguls.

Media is as powerful today as it's ever been; moguls have advanced newspaper empires into radio and onto television - it's the same group of people own and control them all (barring the luvvie lefties in the Beeb).

Peeps are being controlled, encouraged to like this and hate that, divide and rule etc.
When the masses are reduced to squabbling rabble, "endeavour, discovery, science and rational thought" are the last things on their increasingly tiny minds.
banned#11
So much mee-soh-ge-knee and sek-ism!
1 Like #12
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
We in Britain have always looked on the power of lobbyists in America with utter disbelief. Trump for all his faults is running on an anti-corruption ticket, against one of the most corrupt politicians in American history. He's not your usual Republican now is he?

http://i.imgur.com/VkdcXk4.jpg

#DrainTheSwamp
1 Like #13
tryn2help
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Yeah but I always thought we as a nation were better than that. I thought we were much more 'stiff upper lipped' than to be frightened or scared into voting by tabloid scaremongering.
As much as I love this great country I do feel like something's changing in a large amount of people. Ok we've always liked a bit of a moan but that's part of our charm and it was usually just about the weather. Now there's a real sense of bitterness and division in some people.
We were a nation that celebrated endeavour, discovery, science and rational thought - now we seem to deride those qualities or look on them as weird.
We seem to have turned on intellect and expertise where we once embraced them. Maybe it's a cultural thing driven by a type of media where ignorance is seemingly celebrated. Who knows?
People are working harder than ever these days, they've got no time to think so they allow others to do their thinking for them, hence easily led/misled by small group of media moguls.
Media is as powerful today as it's ever been; moguls have advanced newspaper empires into radio and onto television - it's the same group of people own and control them all (barring the luvvie lefties in the Beeb).
Peeps are being controlled, encouraged to like this and hate that, divide and rule etc.
When the masses are reduced to squabbling rabble, "endeavour, discovery, science and rational thought" are the last things on their increasingly tiny minds.
A lot of the problems in this country stem from the rich getting ever richer and the poor getting ever poorer, a situation that those controlling the media are keen to maintain.

So, what's the best way to keep the status quo? Well, for a start, appeal to the nation's xenophobia (clearly evidenced by the rise in popularity of UKIP) and blame 'the foreigners'. Then call a referendum offering a way to keep the foreigners out.

I'm glad that I am at the end of my working life, not the beginning, because the future doesn't look too rosy.
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Predikuesi
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I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
For me it's not really Republican or Democrate. What I dislike is Hillary Clinton's Communist philosophy. Both she and Obama are a fan of Saul Alinsky (Marxist). Alinsky, in his book 'Rules for Radicals' (dedicated to Lucifer) stated that left-wing agitators should do as much as they can to thwart capitalism in every nation. It's almost like Obama and Clinton are living according to the script suggested in the book.
I would apply the same reasoning to politics in our own country. I am opposed to communism on all levels.

Blimey, Saul Alinsky. I haven't seen a reference to him since the '08 election when it was him, Bill Ayers, the Weather Underground and the Pastor whose name escapes me at the moment (Jeremiah Wright maybe?).

Firstly, let me state that I'm opposed to Communism too just in case Joe McCarthy and the Un-American Activities Committee are reading this. Secondly, I don't think either Obama or Clinton are Communists. I don't think either would be especially good Socialists to be fair. But if you are worried about the 'Red Threat' then surely the hacking of Clinton's emails by Russian sources which invariably benefits Trump should be something of a warning light shouldn't it?

Putting that to one side, it's very much liberal vs conservative in America and that's best shown in the Supreme Court. The next President will shape the court for a generation (maybe more) and that will impact on the lives of millions, especially minority groups and women. That to me is all important, beyond who is in the Oval Office.

As someone who considers himself a progressive, equal-rights, feminist and wants all people to enjoy the same rights regardless of gender, religion, sexual orientation or ethnicity there's absolutely no way I could support Trump. I think he sets America back forty years.
#15
Rubisco
He's not your usual Republican now is he?
He certainly isn't, in fact he's been Republican, Independent, Democrat and Republican again.
He's pumped money into all of those and until a couple of years ago he had given most to the democrats - including plenty to democrats Rahm Emanuel, John Kerry AND Hillary Clinton.

Some extreme right wing Republicans even think he's only in the race to ensure Hillary wins, but surely that's just more conspirancy crap.

http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/trump-clinton-e1460469613396.jpg
Donald's latest wedding where Hillary was front row guest of honour.
#16
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Predikuesi
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
I always find it odd to see British people considering a Republican candidate because for years they were viewed as the loony bin of American politics whereas we've always been a lot more progressive as a nation. Support for things like women's rights, minority rights and the welfare state meant that there was too big a gap between us and the right-wing of US politics.
I'm not sure what's changed but it feels like we're moving more in that direction though. I've spoken before of there being two Britains and one of those Britains seems to be rejecting objective analysis and rational discourse for something more emotive, which is where the right-wing in America has always found support.
It's very strange for someone of my age to have seen that change over the last 20 years or so.
For me it's not really Republican or Democrate. What I dislike is Hillary Clinton's Communist philosophy. Both she and Obama are a fan of Saul Alinsky (Marxist). Alinsky, in his book 'Rules for Radicals' (dedicated to Lucifer) stated that left-wing agitators should do as much as they can to thwart capitalism in every nation. It's almost like Obama and Clinton are living according to the script suggested in the book.
I would apply the same reasoning to politics in our own country. I am opposed to communism on all levels.
Blimey, Saul Alinsky. I haven't seen a reference to him since the '08 election when it was him, Bill Ayers, the Weather Underground and the Pastor whose name escapes me at the moment (Jeremiah Wright maybe?).
Firstly, let me state that I'm opposed to Communism too just in case Joe McCarthy and the Un-American Activities Committee are reading this. Secondly, I don't think either Obama or Clinton are Communists. I don't think either would be especially good Socialists to be fair. But if you are worried about the 'Red Threat' then surely the hacking of Clinton's emails by Russian sources which invariably benefits Trump should be something of a warning light shouldn't it?
Putting that to one side, it's very much liberal vs conservative in America and that's best shown in the Supreme Court. The next President will shape the court for a generation (maybe more) and that will impact on the lives of millions, especially minority groups and women. That to me is all important, beyond who is in the Oval Office.
As someone who considers himself a progressive, equal-rights, feminist and wants all people to enjoy the same rights regardless of gender, religion, sexual orientation or ethnicity there's absolutely no way I could support Trump. I think he sets America back forty years.

I doubt Russia has anything to do with Trump, except in Hillary's mind. Anyway the FBI haven't found any connection.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

Edited By: Predikuesi on Nov 01, 2016 17:38: Edit

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