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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
me of little knowledge again. ok so i curently have talktalk who gave me a adsl modem and then i got a belkin router to connect my laptop to net.

now im switiching to virgin on the 8th so need to purchase a DSL modem apparently.... when u look for them online u see a lot of wireless routers and DSL... is this a 2 in one thing.... i really dot know my tech stuff.... if i got one of these how would it work?

if someone could have a look at the linky on post 2 and see if im looking in the right direction i would be really grateful. thanks
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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banned 1 Like #2
i dont think you need a new one is your belkin a modem router or just a router
#3
belkin is just a router... i need a new modem as the fibre optic that virgin provide isnt compatible with an ADSL or ASDL (cant remeber which way round it is!) modem... bloke on fone said need to purchase a DSL modem for that????
banned#4
then you need a modem router combined like the ones in your link
banned#5
You don't need to buy a modem, virgin will supply that.
What sped BB are you getting, if its anything over 2mb you should get a free wireless router
if it's 2mb you can buy one from them for £40
Otherwise, yes what you are looking at is correct for the router.

EDIT: you are going to virgin cable and not adsl?
#6
fragaliciousbob
then you need a modem router combined like the ones in your link


thanks ur very helpful :)

colinsunderland
You don't need to buy a modem, virgin will supply that.
What sped BB are you getting, if its anything over 2mb you should get a free wireless router
if it's 2mb you can buy one from them for £40
Otherwise, yes what you are looking at is correct for the router.

EDIT: you are going to virgin cable and not adsl?



im getting 2mb.... guy on fone said 10mb was next one up and thats more specialist use...as u can tell i am no specialist. he advised against purchasing form virgin....but said for the fibre optic cable need a dsl modem.



ok so if i purchase one of these wireless modem and rouers in one; two questions

1. which one..why such dofferences in price

2. how does it work... the modem things plugs into microfilters and thus the cable line..but modem has an inbuilt router that will connect my laptop to net?



am repless at mo but will spread love in due course x
1 Like #7
hi there

all of those will be fine ADSL IS broadband DSL for cable

Hope this helps
B
banned 1 Like #8
I think you need to ring them back and confirm if its cable broadband or adsl you are getting. Are they having to come out and install it for you? Put new cables in? If so its probably dsl and the modem will be supplied.
1 Like #9
There seems to be some conflicting advice in all the replies so lets go back to the start. (Note: I have Virgin via their fibre optic cable)

Firstly, Virgin supply broadband down a "normal" phone line as well as their own fibre optic cables.

If you are getting your broadband down a fibre optic cable (and it sounds like you are) then Virgin will run a new cable into your house. They will then supply you with a MODEM. They will then connect the Virgin cable to the MODEM.

If you have a normal network cable (ethernet cable) you could plug your LAPTOP directly in to the MODEM and you will get broadband (you dont need a router if you have just the one computer and you dont want to go wireless).

IF you want to go wireless then you need to buy a ROUTER. As you have said, this has to be a DSL (Cable) router. A cable router does not include the MODEM as you have to use the one supplied by Virgin.

When you get the router you need a normal network cable (ethernet cable) to connect the MODEM to the ROUTER.

You will need another network cable to connect your LAPTOP to the ROUTER (if you are going wireless then you use this cable just to set up the ROUTER. Once it is set up you can remove the cable and connect to the router using wi-fi)

You ask about the different costs of the routers.

This is mostly due to the RANGE they cover.

If your laptop is going to be near the router most of the time then you can buy a cheaper "G" router (this is fine for most people) but if you plan to use the laptop from a fair distance then you need a "N" or MIMO router.

I have the Linksys router below and can happily use the laptop upstairs while the router is downstairs.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0810803199.1222588424@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccddadeffffejelcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=13&sm=1&tm=1&sku=250537&category_oid=

Note the information above is ONLY if you are getting Virgin via their fibre optic cable. If you are using a normal phone line then NONE of this applies.

Let me know if you need any more help.
#10
magicbeans

fragaliciousbob: then you need a modem router combined like the ones in your link

thanks ur very helpful



I am afraid he is NOT being helpful.

You DONT need a modem router combined.

As I said in my append above, if you are going Virgin fibre optic cable the router DOES NOT include a modem, you use the one suplied by Virgin.
1 Like #11
yeah too many people posting after intaking vino here!! guilbert is right .
Simply put the two types of broadband discussed here

1. Cable(which can be copper or fibre optic), provider will supply modem into which a pure router can be attached

2.ADSL,DSL,RDSL,DSLMax(All the same), this is the type supplied over BT Wholesale copper phone lines by the likes of BT,TalkTalk, etc this requires a DSL modem.

The problem is virgin can supply both/either of these, you need to speak to them again and clarify which you are getting!!
#12
i have the virgin 20meg download speed (cable).
they supplied the modem
#13
Virgin are providing Fibre to the home now? Why are they still offering the slow 2-20mbps speeds that they did using copper cable then?
#14
EndlessWaves
Virgin are providing Fibre to the home now? Why are they still offering the slow 2-20mbps speeds that they did using copper cable then?


Virgin merged with NTL and Telewest who were the 2 cable companies.

While 20Mbs is their current fastest I believe some people are trialing 50Mbs.
#15
guilbert and all ur all amazing! thanks so much.

sorry yes...im having a guy come in and install virgin...so phone line is changing from a bt one and he is charging to install the cable stuff... however as is 2mb im going for i have to buy my own modem..... guy said best to buy it from pc world then pay 40pounds from virgin...

thans for link to one u have guilbert...u sound like u know ur stuff so i'll probably just get that... dont really know what i looking for as u can tell ...so thanks for that

in a nutshell...need to get both a modem and a wireless router (as like to be wireless on laptop) thanks !!
banned#16
You don't need a modem, virgin will 100% supply it, you aren't allowed to connect a non virgin supplied modem to the line
I think you are getting mixed up with the modem and router, it is the wireless router you need to buy.
#17
thanks colin.... think ur right... will get th router only.... u rock :)
#18
Not blond are u magic? ;)
#19
haha no just not clued up :oops: but very very gratefiul for u guys helping.

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