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banned8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
..................you cant stand the noise so turn them off?


Gawd i sound so ungrateful but this makes more racket than my conked out, aged, back boiler, so peed off i could cry :-(
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banned8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
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#1
When i looked at the title i thoughtit said condensing boxer shorts.
banned#2
In the airing cupboard upstairs, even the kids have asked me to turn it off so its now off, at the mo i have no controls so apprently the pump is continually on, so once controls wired up that wont happen but to be honest i dont want to listen to that racket when its on, there will be no such thing as warming the house before we wake
banned#3
thej
I would ask why it's so loud,even with the pump running.I'm no expert but i don't think it should be that bad,do any neighbours or friends have one,you could maybe compare the noise?


no, they dont, and dont know many folks round here, i asked the guy who installed it and he said they all sound like that, phoned up the helpling from the manual as it was continual and he said its because the therma controls havent been fitted yet so pump is continually going and will stop once fittings have been installed, although i dont think the therma controls are going to do anything to the noise of the chuffin thing when its running
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sassie,
Can you give me the make and model of your boiler and I'll try to help. Your Condensing Boiler should NOT be making a really loud noise. There are a multitude of reasons for Central Heating making noises. Air in the system can lead to Banging and/or whistling and howling. If the water flow through the boiler is insufficient, then the boiler can become noisy. So it is important to have the correct water flow rate.

I am assuming from your comments that you have 'no controls at the minute' and 'once they are wired in' means the system is being fitted at the minute. Who is fitting the system?

Anyway, i'll try and shed some light on your noise if you can give me some more info.

Blas.
banned#5
it is an isar HE24, yes it has been fitted today bu a company and awaiting the sparky to come fit the thera control thingie (although after reading through the mnaual for that , that also looks **** too

it isnt a banging or whistling, it defoo sounds like the pump or even a fan, although when i turn on the hot water or heating another noise accompanies it (sorry if im not making much sense) im just so gutted:oops:
banned#6
thej
Just spoke to my neighbour and he says they only time they really hear it is when they run out of gas,they use the pre pay card things you put into meter,and occaisionally when it fires up,apart from that says it's really quiet.Maybe it will quieten down once other parts are fitted,but i can't see how it would make much difference,as i said i'm no expert but it doesn't seem right to me.Hopefully someone more in the know will come along and get you sorted,sorry i couldn't be more help.


i hope so, as to be honest i dont know what to do if this is a standard noise, as no way could i have t to come on whilst were asleep:oops:
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sassie
i hope so, as to be honest i dont know what to do if this is a standard noise, as no way could i have t to come on whilst were asleep:oops:


sassie i had the same boiler fitted a year ago and mine is quiet, don't let them fob you off
#8
tracy013
sassie i had the same boiler fitted a year ago and mine is quiet, don't let them fob you off


its mine then making the noise :w00t:
#9
could be that the fan is catching or the cover maybe loose and vibrations making the noise i would get them to check it if your not happy with it
#10
loupomm
its mine then making the noise :w00t:


lol it's ok i just turn up my tv :p
banned#11
tracy013
sassie i had the same boiler fitted a year ago and mine is quiet, don't let them fob you off


i can hear mine downstairs, i dont mean it is horrendous, but there is no way you couldnt tell it wasnt on as soon as you enter the house, like i said my back boiler was on its way out and made alot of noise, but this os worse
#12
sassie
i can hear mine downstairs, i dont mean it is horrendous, but there is no way you couldnt tell it wasnt on as soon as you enter the house, like i said my back boiler was on its way out and made alot of noise, but this os worse


did you get it through the warm front grant? if so after the work has been done someone comes to check it and you can tell them your not happy
banned#13
tracy013
did you get it through the warm front grant? if so after the work has been done someone comes to check it and you can tell them your not happy


yes i did, and thats why i feel such an ungrateful cow, bit honeslty i have got myself so worked up about it, i cannot live with a boiler that makes that much noise when its on:oops:
#14
tracy013
did you get it through the warm front grant? if so after the work has been done someone comes to check it and you can tell them your not happy


Not always they don't, a friend had warm front fit a combi boiler, theres not been a word from them since, maybe they know the workmanship isnt all it could be and dont want to encourage complaints!:)
#15
sassie
it is an isar HE24, yes it has been fitted today bu a company and awaiting the sparky to come fit the thera control thingie (although after reading through the mnaual for that , that also looks **** too

it isnt a banging or whistling, it defoo sounds like the pump or even a fan, although when i turn on the hot water or heating another noise accompanies it (sorry if im not making much sense) im just so gutted:oops:


Ok. When you turn on the hot water the boiler will fire up (its designed to heat hot water on demand) so it is normal for it to do that. I don't know what system you had before but with a Gravity system (A Boiler normally down stairs & a Storage Cylinder upstairs in the old Airing Cupboard), for hot water the boiler would heat water and fill the cylinder in the airing cupboard. If you had the boiler coming on early in the morning then you wouldn't notice the noise of the boiler as it is normally down stairs.

I need more info on the noise. You say its like a Fan. The boiler does have an internal fan. It is there to expel the products of combustion from the Boiler (CO) and to suck clean air in to the boiler for combustion to take place. Isar's are not VERY noisy but they do make a noise. I am starting to wonder whether you have had the boiler fitted in the old airing cupboard and you aren't used to having a boiler upstairs. Was your old boiler down stairs somewhere?
#16
kidcat
Not always they don't, a friend had warm front fit a combi boiler, theres not been a word from them since, maybe they know the workmanship isnt all it could be and dont want to encourage complaints!:)


thats a shame, they were really good when they did mine and i am just about to get my 1 year service done too
#17
sassie,

Just to satisfy my curiosity, do you know how to check the pressure on the boiler? There should be a small gauge probably underneath the boiler. The needle should be pointing at between 1 and 2. Anywhere between those two is fine. If it isn't, its possible your boiler is 'Kettling'. This happens when there isn't enough water pressure in the system and the boiler is especially boiling like an under filled kettle.

Have a look for me.
banned#18
Blasphemous
Ok. When you turn on the hot water the boiler will fire up (its designed to heat hot water on demand) so it is normal for it to do that. I don't know what system you had before but with a Gravity system (A Boiler normally down stairs & a Storage Cylinder upstairs in the old Airing Cupboard), for hot water the boiler would heat water and fill the cylinder in the airing cupboard. If you had the boiler coming on early in the morning then you wouldn't notice the noise of the boiler as it is normally down stairs.

I need more info on the noise. You say its like a Fan. The boiler does have an internal fan. It is there to expel the products of combustion from the Boiler (CO) and to suck clean air in to the boiler for combustion to take place. Isar's are not VERY noisy but they do make a noise. I am starting to wonder whether you have had the boiler fitted in the old airing cupboard and you aren't used to having a boiler upstairs. Was your old boiler down stairs somewhere?


Lol - i kow how the boiler works, yes my old system was a back boiler downstairs in the lounge with a tank in the airing cupboard and did make noise and you where able to hear it to a normal extent, my old one had got to the stage you couldnt help notice when it was on, now this new one is as plain as the nose on your face it is on no matter what room you are in,

It is hard to explain a noise, like i said it sounds like a pump or fan or something like that, it isnt a cluncking, banging noise, its a constant noise
banned#19
Blasphemous
sassie,

Just to satisfy my curiosity, do you know how to check the pressure on the boiler? There should be a small gauge probably underneath the boiler. The needle should be pointing at between 1 and 2. Anywhere between those two is fine. If it isn't, its possible your boiler is 'Kettling'. This happens when there isn't enough water pressure in the system and the boiler is especially boiling like an under filled kettle.

Have a look for me.


yes, it is just below 2
#20
I have a boiler like that, it makes a noise when it comes on, and it makes noises in the night etc. Called the engineer and he said it was because of the type of boiler it is, it keeps the water/radiators at the last temp on the thermostat. Even if I have timed the heating to go off at 22.00, if it drops below 20 degrees, it kicks into action and starts heating the house up in the early hours of the morning. I have to turn it off when I have guests because they complain about the noise!
#21
Ok sorry sassie I didn't mean to offend.

Right, so the system pressure is right.

This noise then. Is it a constant noise or just when the boiler is working? ie when you have the heating turned on and/or turned the hot water tap on?

Sorry, I know its a pain but I'm trying to help.
#22
......... nice and quiet here :p
banned#23
Blasphemous
Ok sorry sassie I didn't mean to offend.

Right, so the system pressure is right.

This noise then. Is it a constant noise or just when the boiler is working? ie when you have the heating turned on and/or turned the hot water tap on?

Sorry, I know its a pain but I'm trying to help.


lol no offence taken, for now their is no controls as i have said, so the system is showing code c (central heating being supplied) even though it isnt as that is set to nothing, because the boiler is trying to supply it, does that make sense, so at the moment i am unable to tell you if this is going to happen all the time and just when fired up in use
banned#24
just trying to think how i could record the noise for you to listen to, but cant think :-(
banned#26
owlass i had just come across that myself, searching google, its not tlike that at all, that is like clancking and banging, just going to ask daughter if she knows how to use youtube maybe i could record it with her phone
#27
Oh of course!!!:oops: It 'could' be that the system is working overtime due to the fact it is in a continious loop. ie it heats up, then normally the thermostat would tell it to cut out once the system is at the right temp but yours cannot as there is no control in place. Mind you, the internal stat should cut it out???? Hmmmm...

Right, I think the best course of action will be to wait until the Spark fits the control. I will get back on tomorrow at some point and look up this post and see how things are doing if thats ok.

By the way, British Gas fit Isar HE24's ALL the time but they're not the best. They're not the worst though :)

I know its easy for me to say but try not to worry about it sassie. Hopefully the control will get it sorted. Keep ya pecker up kid :)
banned#28
i know the controls will probably stop this, but it isnt going to stop the noise when it is wrking, (when the heating is on) anyone got a you tube account - lol


It is not on continual as i have tuned it off at the unti, just turned it on to take a vid and it sounds a little like a plane - lol
#29
As blas' said, wait til it's fully fitted.

From what ya said it sounds like the fan, this may change once the controls are on and set :)
#30
sassie
i know the controls will probably stop this, but it isnt going to stop the noise when it is wrking, (when the heating is on) anyone got a you tube account - lol


It is not on continual as i have tuned it off at the unti, just turned it on to take a vid and it sounds a little like a plane - lol


I've got to go now sassie but you will get GREAT advice from the rest of the lads at:

http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=7

You'll need to register (its free) but then you can pose a question. There are lads on DiyNot that have been in the trade longer than I have and some of them have more understanding than I will EVER have. Its worth having a look there if nothing else.

Keep smiling kid. nite.
banned#31
ok thank for all your help, daughter has put them on youtube if they ever apear, called sassie boiler 1 and sassie boiler 2,
banned#32
sorry guys not very goof, first one wihout anything on, second with heating on

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-4c5neGYCfw


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Na1U8ikV14
#33
Hmmm, :thinking:

You won't like this sassie.... That sounds fairly normal to me :oops:

What's it like with the door to the cupboard closed? It may be that you have to live with this SORRY!!!

One possible solution would be to relocate the boiler in the loft? But you would need to have a permanent loft ladder. The regulations state that. You cannot just have a loft hatch and a step ladder.

Oh dear. I'm sorry its not better news sassie. Post it on DiyNot (or i will if you want) and see what they think but i think it sounds normal. :oops:
banned#34
oh no, please i cant live with that noise, now im back to being peed again and was just coming out of it, my friend called this afternnon and even she said hers doesnt sound anything like thta and hers is an old combi, i cannot believe a new combi sounds worse than an old back boiler, no no no no
#35
Not as bad as i thought it was going to be, but it doesn't sound right to me :?
banned#36
that is very low, dont know why, but it is louder than that, honestly, it sounds like when your own a plane and the engines are going (oh i give up i canna explain what it sounds like)
#37
sassie
....sounds like when your own a plane and the engines are going


If i owned a plane, i would have women in togas warming my water, with the heat from their thighs :)
banned#38
owlass
If i owned a plane, i would have women in togas warming my water, with the heat from their thighs :)


oh errr:oops:
#39
Right sassie.

i've posted your videos on my other site. Its been that long since I logged in there I forgot my flaming password then I tried to get it renewed and the email i used when I signed up (years ago) was redundant so I had to sign up for a new account to post your vids!!! Oh well, its done now. As soon as I have any news I'll post back here ok?

Blas.
banned#40
Blasphemous
Right sassie.

i've posted your videos on my other site. Its been that long since I logged in there I forgot my flaming password then I tried to get it renewed and the email i used when I signed up (years ago) was redundant so I had to sign up for a new account to post your vids!!! Oh well, its done now. As soon as I have any news I'll post back here ok?

Blas.



oh my lordy, i hope you havent mentioned where im from, i have enough fans already - lol

seriously thanks, im sure its not right, and will not do anything until spraky has been and set everything up and then will go from there:oops:

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