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Jump to unread Post a Commentand labour would of done what, put the next 2 or 3 generations(they have already done it to the next 1) in debt as well by spending money they haven't got and having nothing to show for it after
Tories are only making the situation worse whilst also making it more difficult for the average man on the street, and in a far more corrupt fashion than Labour can manage...
the tories wouldn't of made such a mess in the first place
In with the jokes so quickly?
the tories had a £8 bil surplus when then left office last time
when labour left it was something like £80 bil deficit
its not hard to work out which one made a mess of things
its easy to be in surplus when you've sold the countries assets..........
Labour never did that did they?!? How much did Brown get for all our gold?
Comparing what Labour did and what happened under Thatcher and Major is like comparing somebody who sold off the household silver with somebody who sold off the land, house, every scrape of furniture, then moved into a rented caravan.
And what did Labour do? Expand welfare spending to unsustainable levels and give everyone a sense of entitlement?
Two years is still too soon to expect a financial recovery - anyone who thinks different should register in a red state and vote for Mitt Romney so at least their delusion has some point. What the Tories are doing (too slowly) is trying to affect ideological change by reversing years of liberal thinking that has seen 'averageness' celebrated and success sneered at.
Actually, what Blair etc did was to weakly continue with the Tory policies that destroyed opportunities for a generation. This government have nothing against "averageness". They are actually its personification in some respects. All they are trying to do is make working class people pay for the crisis created by their friends in the financial industry.
22-04-2012 Tory Toffees 33%, Wallace & Gromit boy 41%, Dave's Biatch 15%, monster raving galloway party(and friends) 12%
Edited By: splatsplatsplat on Apr 25, 2012 15:47
Their own party members are now seeing the light;
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16214841
So you're using Nadine Dorries to support your argument? You realise she's perhaps the most pathetic MP in Parliament right now don't you?
But I'm sure you'll ignore her own incompetence in order to support your point and hope no-one realises.
(If you are going to reply to this, I'm guessing you'll step away from citing her recent statements very quickly indeed - fair enough, it's the sensible thing to do).
I thought that she summed them up fairly well, you cannot escape from the facts.
However mediocre your argument is.. (_;)
and labour would of done what, put the next 2 or 3 generations(they have already done it to the next 1) in debt as well by spending money they haven't got and having nothing to show for it after
Tories are only making the situation worse whilst also making it more difficult for the average man on the street, and in a far more corrupt fashion than Labour can manage...
the tories wouldn't of made such a mess in the first place
In with the jokes so quickly?
the tories had a £8 bil surplus when then left office last time
when labour left it was something like £80 bil deficit
its not hard to work out which one made a mess of things
its easy to be in surplus when you've sold the countries assets..........
Labour never did that did they?!? How much did Brown get for all our gold?
Comparing what Labour did and what happened under Thatcher and Major is like comparing somebody who sold off the household silver with somebody who sold off the land, house, every scrape of furniture, then moved into a rented caravan.
And what did Labour do? Expand welfare spending to unsustainable levels and give everyone a sense of entitlement?
Two years is still too soon to expect a financial recovery - anyone who thinks different should register in a red state and vote for Mitt Romney so at least their delusion has some point. What the Tories are doing (too slowly) is trying to affect ideological change by reversing years of liberal thinking that has seen 'averageness' celebrated and success sneered at.
Actually, what Blair etc did was to weakly continue with the Tory policies that destroyed opportunities for a generation. This government have nothing against "averageness". They are actually its personification in some respects. All they are trying to do is make working class people pay for the crisis created by their friends in the financial industry.
That would be the financial industry that contributes massively to this country?
I disagree with your 'class warfare' argument too. Unfortunately we've got a large group of people who think they're entitled to everything without having to work for it and they are a result of liberal policies. I have to accept blame for that too because I naively believed in some of them, but we have to be tougher on people.
That means people will suffer as cuts are made.
Their own party members are now seeing the light;
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16214841
So you're using Nadine Dorries to support your argument? You realise she's perhaps the most pathetic MP in Parliament right now don't you?
But I'm sure you'll ignore her own incompetence in order to support your point and hope no-one realises.
(If you are going to reply to this, I'm guessing you'll step away from citing her recent statements very quickly indeed - fair enough, it's the sensible thing to do).
I thought that she summed them up fairly well, you cannot escape from the facts.
However mediocre your argument is.. (_;)
See, that's not really a big enough distraction to really get separation from using Nadine Dorries to back-up your assertion.
Come on, you can do better than some weak attempt at humour. I'm sure by now you've wiki'd her and seen what an abhorrent publicity wh0re she is.
but I didnt vote for any of them???
and labour would of done what, put the next 2 or 3 generations(they have already done it to the next 1) in debt as well by spending money they haven't got and having nothing to show for it after
Tories are only making the situation worse whilst also making it more difficult for the average man on the street, and in a far more corrupt fashion than Labour can manage...
the tories wouldn't of made such a mess in the first place
In with the jokes so quickly?
the tories had a £8 bil surplus when then left office last time
when labour left it was something like £80 bil deficit
its not hard to work out which one made a mess of things
its easy to be in surplus when you've sold the countries assets..........
Labour never did that did they?!? How much did Brown get for all our gold?
Comparing what Labour did and what happened under Thatcher and Major is like comparing somebody who sold off the household silver with somebody who sold off the land, house, every scrape of furniture, then moved into a rented caravan.
And what did Labour do? Expand welfare spending to unsustainable levels and give everyone a sense of entitlement?
Two years is still too soon to expect a financial recovery - anyone who thinks different should register in a red state and vote for Mitt Romney so at least their delusion has some point. What the Tories are doing (too slowly) is trying to affect ideological change by reversing years of liberal thinking that has seen 'averageness' celebrated and success sneered at.
Actually, what Blair etc did was to weakly continue with the Tory policies that destroyed opportunities for a generation. This government have nothing against "averageness". They are actually its personification in some respects. All they are trying to do is make working class people pay for the crisis created by their friends in the financial industry.
That would be the financial industry that contributes massively to this country?
I disagree with your 'class warfare' argument too. Unfortunately we've got a large group of people who think they're entitled to everything without having to work for it and they are a result of liberal policies. I have to accept blame for that too because I naively believed in some of them, but we have to be tougher on people.
That means people will suffer as cuts are made.
Of course you disagree, that goes without saying.
Actually we have a very small group of people who think they are entitled to everything without having to work for it. They are the result of a class system that has ensured that they stay in power. People will suffer and are already suffering due to the cuts. The problem is it will never be this small group who always look after themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
Their own party members are now seeing the light;
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16214841
So you're using Nadine Dorries to support your argument? You realise she's perhaps the most pathetic MP in Parliament right now don't you?
But I'm sure you'll ignore her own incompetence in order to support your point and hope no-one realises.
(If you are going to reply to this, I'm guessing you'll step away from citing her recent statements very quickly indeed - fair enough, it's the sensible thing to do).
I thought that she summed them up fairly well, you cannot escape from the facts.
However mediocre your argument is.. (_;)
See, that's not really a big enough distraction to really get separation from using Nadine Dorries to back-up your assertion.
Come on, you can do better than some weak attempt at humour. I'm sure by now you've wiki'd her and seen what an abhorrent publicity wh0re she is.
Weak attempts at humour to distract for a lack of argument are your speciality I believe Filth.
Time to vote BNP and kick the immigrants out.
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
HUKD's have a part to play too, Businesses are struggling to make a profit on all the deals..!!! Lol
and labour would of done what, put the next 2 or 3 generations(they have already done it to the next 1) in debt as well by spending money they haven't got and having nothing to show for it after
Tories are only making the situation worse whilst also making it more difficult for the average man on the street, and in a far more corrupt fashion than Labour can manage...
the tories wouldn't of made such a mess in the first place
In with the jokes so quickly?
the tories had a £8 bil surplus when then left office last time
when labour left it was something like £80 bil deficit
its not hard to work out which one made a mess of things
its easy to be in surplus when you've sold the countries assets..........
Labour never did that did they?!? How much did Brown get for all our gold?
Comparing what Labour did and what happened under Thatcher and Major is like comparing somebody who sold off the household silver with somebody who sold off the land, house, every scrape of furniture, then moved into a rented caravan.
And what did Labour do? Expand welfare spending to unsustainable levels and give everyone a sense of entitlement?
Two years is still too soon to expect a financial recovery - anyone who thinks different should register in a red state and vote for Mitt Romney so at least their delusion has some point. What the Tories are doing (too slowly) is trying to affect ideological change by reversing years of liberal thinking that has seen 'averageness' celebrated and success sneered at.
Actually, what Blair etc did was to weakly continue with the Tory policies that destroyed opportunities for a generation. This government have nothing against "averageness". They are actually its personification in some respects. All they are trying to do is make working class people pay for the crisis created by their friends in the financial industry.
That would be the financial industry that contributes massively to this country?
I disagree with your 'class warfare' argument too. Unfortunately we've got a large group of people who think they're entitled to everything without having to work for it and they are a result of liberal policies. I have to accept blame for that too because I naively believed in some of them, but we have to be tougher on people.
That means people will suffer as cuts are made.
Of course you disagree, that goes without saying.
Actually we have a very small group of people who think they are entitled to everything without having to work for it. They are the result of a class system that has ensured that they stay in power. People will suffer and are already suffering due to the cuts. The problem is it will never be this small group who always look after themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
And we revert to type - you go around blaming everyone for your problems and I embrace the fact that with hard, intelligent work anyone can achieve success.
My ideology leads to me working hard and succeeding, your's leads to you becoming a grey, dreary old man shouting at the tv and polluting any offspring with the same bleak outlook. What lucky children.
You have no solutions just tired Thatcherite soundbites.
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
Can't do that - the Premier league teams would have no players to field.....or is it only poor immigrants you'd get rid of?
You have no solutions just tired Thatcherite soundbites.
The people I view as 'most vulnerable' in society are the lazy, the stupid and those who seek to blame others for their problems. I see no reason to protect them from their inevitable failure.
Why on Earth would I be bitter? Society rewards me handsomely.
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
Can't do that - the Premier league teams would have no players to field.....or is it only poor immigrants you'd get rid of?
Why would we keep the poor immigrants?
You have no solutions just tired Thatcherite soundbites.
The people I view as 'most vulnerable' in society are the lazy, the stupid and those who seek to blame others for their problems. I see no reason to protect them from their inevitable failure.
Why on Earth would I be bitter? Society rewards me handsomely.
Of course that's how you view these people. That is what bitter twisted people do to justify their hatred.
I have no idea why you are so bitter, but it comes across in virtually every post you make. I can only assume you are not as "successful" and "rewarded" as you continually go to great pains tell us you are.
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
Can't do that - the Premier league teams would have no players to field.....or is it only poor immigrants you'd get rid of?
I'm referring to the illegal immigrants.
They shouldn't be able to claim any benefits etc..
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
Can't do that - the Premier league teams would have no players to field.....or is it only poor immigrants you'd get rid of?
Why would we keep the poor immigrants?
So know the poor have nothing to contribute to society? So people need to be born wealthy to have any worth?
You have no solutions just tired Thatcherite soundbites.
The people I view as 'most vulnerable' in society are the lazy, the stupid and those who seek to blame others for their problems. I see no reason to protect them from their inevitable failure.
Why on Earth would I be bitter? Society rewards me handsomely.
Of course that's how you view these people. That is what bitter twisted people do to justify their hatred.
I have no idea why you are so bitter, but it comes across in virtually every post you make. I can only assume you are not as "successful" and "rewarded" as you continually go to great pains tell us you are.
I don't hate individuals - I hate the ideology that has robbed so many people of their potential by anaesthetising people into zombies through the use of government handouts.
We should be telling people they can be whatever they want to be with the right amount of smart work and education, but instead people of your generation started telling people that they should find someone to blame for making it so hard instead.
This is why I don't quite get why you object to my ideology - I tell people that they should dream big but work hard to achieve it. That is a laudable, admirable view.
In fact if you actually tried to explain exactly why you dislike my views, it would reveal that you simply hate people who got up off their backsides and did something with their life.
Kick them out = 50% of the problems solved, I don't see any progress from the Tories regarding immigration, No policies mentioned on tackling the problem.
Can't do that - the Premier league teams would have no players to field.....or is it only poor immigrants you'd get rid of?
Why would we keep the poor immigrants?
So know the poor have nothing to contribute to society? So people need to be born wealthy to have any worth?
I was simply asking the person why we should allow poor immigrants into this country whilst we still have many people capable of doing similar jobs - personally I don't mind the free flow of labour around the world but I felt their point was nothing more than cheap point-scoring.