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*Contains spoilers* Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Discussion

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banned9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
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Probably already a discussion thread hiding somewhere, couldn't see it.

The Deathly Hallows was my favourite book in the series until Rowling proved she wasn't brave enough to kill off Harry. Everything that came after that point was rushed rubbish, created only to keep Harry alive.

It wasn't just Rowling being unable to kill off Harry that bothered me; she was also unable to kill off any any of the main trio. Only Hedwig's death near the start shocked me.

Moving back to ending, the 'fight' between Harry and Voldemort was almost laughably bad.

- Instead of casting the killing curse while hidden, Harry tells everyone he wants a man-on-man fight with the most dangerous wizard in existence, who just happens to have the best wand in existence. Everyone just stood aside without a word, of course.
- Harry and Voldemort then decided to walk in a full circle for 5 minutes before actually doing anything.
- Then, forgetting all the warping ability/flying/speed he used to fight Dumbledore, he stood three and simply shot his spell at Harry's, both seeming to forget they could do spells without words.

Simply put, the ending 'fight' came down to Harry owning a bigger wand. Exciting stuff.

And we shouldn't forget Mrs Weasley for one-shotting one of the most deadly death eaters just before the big 'fight'. I now have the mental image of Mrs Weasley from the movie running at *forget her name* with her apron on.

To make matters worse, the epilogue sucked donkey balls. What the hell was the point of telling us what we knew already? Rowling could've at least told us what jobs Harry, Ron and Hermione had at that point.

Probably being a little too negative here when the first 550 or so pages were nearly all excellent. Harry finally seeing the real Snape and the falling out between Harry and Ron were the most enjoyable parts, right up there with the best parts of the other 6 books. I just wish Rowling had shown more bottle and allowed Harry to die, it would've made for a powerful and unexpected ending.
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banned9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
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[admin]#1
Ya shoulda put your spoiler alert in the title lol...
banned#2
I've made the *SPOILER ALERT* as big as possible and added spaces between it and the text.

The book has been out long enough now for people to expect spoilers in a discussion thread. :p
#3
I just finished reading it about an hour ago. I did enjoy it, I think it was definitely more exciting than the previous ones have been. It's obviously written in a more childish style than the books I am used to reading, but even so, still good fun.

I agree that the epilogue was a bit redundant too :)
#4
I have wanted Voldemort to win for god knows how many books now, think it was since he first came back, maybe a lil earlier. However when he killed Snape. I was like 'Die B*****d'. Snape was one of my fav characters, I would have happily traded Harry's life for his lol.

So what was your fav part? and did you think Ron would have come back before the end fight?
#5
pawsntails
So what was your fav part? and did you think Ron would have come back before the end fight?

I think the Hogwartz battle was pretty good, that will be great when they movie'ize it!! They should've killed off more Weasleys though!!!
#6
I thought Mrs Weasley was gonna die, then when she raced to fight Bellatrix I figured that would be when it happened, but no, she was still live n kickin :S

:o at Dobby dying, poor lil guy
#7
Yeah, Dobby dying was kinda sad.

I think the ending against Voldemort wasn't supposed to be a big magical fight. It was all a battle of wits that built up from long before this book was set... as we all saw in the pensive.

The Mrs Weasly killing the most powerful Death Eater just goes to show that mother's can do anything they want to when their children are threatened.

BUT I do agree that the epilouge was just terrible.
[admin]#8
For a good way to kill off your main character see the last episode of Sopranos :) Well maybe not a good way but at least it wasn't all happy clappy! And now I get blackouts whenever I hear Journey...
#9
I loved the book, although she really didnt tell us enough in the last chapter about what happened to them all so i think she should release a small book to tell us all.

I thought the ending was good though, a nice little twist which i definatly wasnt expecting. For the £9.00 i paid for the book i thought it was well worth it.
#10
How long did it take people to finish?

I finished on sunday and started re-reading on friday. One of the girls at work thought I was slightly crazy as I was rereading a book that hadn't been out for a week.

The fight at the end should make pretty good viewing on cinema though. I was racking my brains trying to remember where harry had put a wig and a tiara on a statue though. Can't believe I forgot since it only happened in Half-blood
#11
pawsntails
How long did it take people to finish?


I read book 6 on Tuesday in just over 14 hours and started book 7 on Thursday and finished it about an hour ago.
#12
I started the book on sat and finished it tuesday. I took me a total of 3 weeks to read all 7 books.
#13
I believe I started reading the book at approximately 7.10am on the Saturday (having been handed it a few minutes before from the postman), and I finished it at approximately 9pm the same day.

Though obviously I had to stop for toilet breaks, and dinner in between, but otherwise I couldn't really put it down :-D

I was surprised about b*****d and b***h being said (I didn't expect JK to write the actual words), since in the past it has usually been something like 'Ron swore' etc., though in total it was obviously only 3 times in the whole book anyway (2 for the first word, 1 for the second), but it was all in context so it is understandable and it doesn't really bother me.

I suspect there'll probably still be some parents unhappy at those words being in the book though.
#14
Mattitude
I suspect there'll probably still be some parents unhappy at those words being in the book though.


But, anyone who started reading the books at the beginning of the series 10 years ago will be at least 17 as they weren't designed for anyone younger than 7. Aimed at 9 year olds really the first one.

Any young children who are reading this one are just jumping on the bandwagon, and I think Rowling's had to make the books more grown up to keep the audience she attracted originally.
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duckmagicuk2
But, anyone who started reading the books at the beginning of the series 10 years ago will be at least 17 as they weren't designed for anyone younger than 7. Aimed at 9 year olds really the first one.

Any young children who are reading this one are just jumping on the bandwagon, and I think Rowling's had to make the books more grown up to keep the audience she attracted originally.

That's a fair point, I guess I didn't think of it that way.
#16
Mattitude
That's a fair point, I guess I didn't think of it that way.


You can see it in the films too. They are getting darker as the actors grow up.

I think Harry Potter's become very much like Disney World though. Whilst it was originally meant for children, you'll probably find that there's actually more adults interested in it.
[helper]#17
I thought the book was okay but it only really starts coming alive for me when they go back to Hogwarts..........I think I was missing some of the characters McGonnagall etc

Still can't work out how the sword that the goblin stole reappeared in the hat for Neville. And who would have believed clumsy Neville would have been such a hero....

and the ministry didn't hold out very long either.....
banned#18
gari189
Still can't work out how the sword that the goblin stole reappeared in the hat for Neville. And who would have believed clumsy Neville would have been such a hero....


Like in the 2nd book when Harry did the same; a true Gryffindor can pull the sword out of the hat.

The prophecy said either of them could've been the one to kill Voldemort, with Harry ending up being picked by Voldemort to do it. Neville still playing his part in Voldemort's downfall wasn't that surprising.
#19
I really enjoyed the whole book. (well except the cheesy last chapter, i thought the dialogue was really forced in order to explain what had happened)

Loved the way Harry killed voldermort with both his "trademark" spell and like the first spell learned when duelling. felt really sorry for snape though
#20
gari189
I thought the book was okay but it only really starts coming alive for me when they go back to Hogwarts..........I think I was missing some of the characters McGonnagall etc

Still can't work out how the sword that the goblin stole reappeared in the hat for Neville. And who would have believed clumsy Neville would have been such a hero....

and the ministry didn't hold out very long either.....


I was really excited when he first spoke to McGonnagall and I knew a fight was about to happen. lol.

The sword will present itself to a true Gryffindor - a brave person.

It said in chapter one that the ministry were almost overthrown.

Remember... it starts about a month after the end of book 6!!
#21
[SIZE="5"]Rowling's commentary on the epilogue[/SIZE]

In an interview, author J. K. Rowling gave additional information about the characters that she chose to exclude from the book.

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[*] The epilogue does not directly state that Ron and Hermione are married, but Rowling confirmed that indeed they are.
[*] Harry and Ron are both Aurors; Harry is the department head, and Hermione is "very high up" in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement.
[*] Luna Lovegood has become a naturalist of sorts, searching the world for odd and unique creatures.
[*] At Hogwarts there is now a permanent Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher; Voldemort's jinx on this position was broken with his death. There is also an unknown Headmaster, as Professor McGonagall was too old to assume the position permanently. Rowling did not identify either the Headmaster or the Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher.
[/LIST]

Read the full interview/article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

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