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could you believe paypal, I got scammed by a buyer!!!!!!

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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
a item i recently sold which the seller recieved has been disputed. its just too easy for them! he made a dispute paypal held the funds. then after 2 days he wins the case!!! i provided tracking info and the buyer didnt even contact me. im now £14 out of pocket which isnt that bad could of been worse.
i thought this was a stupid case and he buyer had no chance as it clearly says its delivered you lot can see for yourself. tracking number: DL857776535GB
my balance is now -£6.89. what should i do regarding that? leave it negative or will they send the bailifs for £6 lol.
ive been a account holder since 2006 and this person who probably made his account last week wins a case over me?
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#1
omg thats really bad have you tried phoneing paypal ???
i thought you were protected when sending via trackable method
#2
his address isnt confirmed. well that would mean anyone can make a account with a unconfirmed address and dispute everything they buy and automatically win. they asked me for a tracking number and i provided it. the thing which ennoys me is that the buyer did not contact me and even in the dispute there was no resolution he just esculated it from the begining.
#3
now guess what happens hes no longer registered!!!!
http://*************.co.uk/usman1221/
banned#4
how did paypal get scammed then?

"paypal got scammed by a buyer!!!!!!"
#5
there sorted.
#6
yep i have had the same happen to me recently - had to pay the negative funds before i could use the paypal account aswell - it seems paypal is great for buyers but not so good when it comes to protecting sellers - thankfully mine was also for only a few quid but thats not the point, my buyer put in their dispute that i hadn't responded etc but i had and also thay had their blooming item!!!! its so annoying when you really have to put paypal on your listiing now - what a rip off!
#7
there are many anti paypal sites and justifed by the recent spate of unusual claims it seems.

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fsa-outside

why not contact the FSA if paypal dont reverse it ?

edit; http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/PAYPAL-SCAM-FRAUD-WARNING_W0QQugidZ10000000001453851

^'
LETS STOP PAYPAL SPOILING EBAY.

EBAY WILL NOT ALLOW WESTERN UNION BECAUSE IT IS SCAMMER HEAVEN BUT PAYPAL IS THE ONE DOING THE
SCAMMING NOW AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.

nothing has changed although ebay now only accepts paypal (its subsidiary) for most payments - a well organised scam it seems.
#8
helcatamy1
yep i have had the same happen to me recently - had to pay the negative funds before i could use the paypal account aswell - it seems paypal is great for buyers but not so good when it comes to protecting sellers - thankfully mine was also for only a few quid but thats not the point, my buyer put in their dispute that i hadn't responded etc but i had and also thay had their blooming item!!!! its so annoying when you really have to put paypal on your listiing now - what a rip off!


yh i know. the good thing is i withdrew most of the money from the account and only had 8 or so pound left so when they tried to take £14 they had to pay some from there money. i aint paying the -£6.89. ill close the account if i have to and just open another one.
what are they going to do? send the bailifs for £6?
#9
Karim786
there are many anti paypal sites and justifed by the recent spate of unusual claims it seems.

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fsa-outside

why not contact the FSA if paypal dont reverse it ?


yh ill check out those websites. ive already sent a complaint letter to them i want to see what they say regarding this matter.
#10
they probably will send you a debt collectors letter thus affecting your credit rating
#11
ilovepink
they probably will send you a debt collectors letter thus affecting your credit rating


oh yh i forgot about the credit history thing. well ill wait and see what they say regarding the complaint letter i sent.
#12
ALICOM007
oh yh i forgot about the credit history thing. well ill wait and see what they say regarding the complaint letter i sent.


:thumbsup:

my bro in law got a debt collectors letter for £2 odd:?:roll:
1 Like #13
good luck let us know the outcome x
#14
Karim786
there are many anti paypal sites and justifed by the recent spate of unusual claims it seems.

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fsa-outside

why not contact the FSA if paypal dont reverse it ?

edit; http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/PAYPAL-SCAM-FRAUD-WARNING_W0QQugidZ10000000001453851



nothing has changed although ebay now only accepts paypal (its subsidiary) for most payments - a well organised scam it seems.


i cant beilieve no ones doing anything about it. has no one taken paypal to court or something. i remember when the musthave100 thing happened which i lost £100 with them and that was when i was a buyer. it was mentioned on watchdog for like 5 mins but they didnt say anything about paypal.
#15
I have had this happen to me, but with a twist! I sold a boxed set of DVDs and three weeks later the buyer claimed they were all scratched. Paypal told him to return them to me, and I found then all scratched as though he had taken a nail file to them. Quess what Paypal did next! Yes, he got his money back and I was left £36.00 out of pocket.
I think that he only wanted to watch the DVDs rather than buy them.
#16
Predikuesi
I have had this happen to me, but with a twist! I sold a boxed set of DVDs and three weeks later the buyer claimed they were all scratched. Paypal told him to return them to me, and I found then all scratched as though he had taken a nail file to them. Quess what Paypal did next! Yes, he got his money back and I was left £36.00 out of pocket.
I think that he only wanted to watch the DVDs rather than buy them.


he probably copied them and sent them back. sorry to hear about that.
#17
It's a shame, you shouldn't send to unconfirmed addresses though.
#18
remove your bank account from paypal or they will just take the funds, and if you dont have enough and the bank DOES pay then you'll owe bank charges also
I lost several hundred £'s to paypal twice 2 years ago when selling mobiles to the US., they get them then say they were broke or not working yet brand new in the box, paypal "investigates" then refunds all their money it's a massive rip off and ebay should be closed down (if any other one would take over) or made to take other payments
#19
can you not copmplain to ofcom??? or trading standards
am sorry this has happned
#20
I got a debt collectors letter over £12.

It's disgusting that for the majority of listings accepting Paypal is now COMPULSORY, yet any buyer can use it with an "unconfirmed" address!!

I got scammed by an Italian buyer who claimed he didn't get the mobile I sent. I got some of my money back from the post office as I had proof of postage. The most galling thing is that I sent Paypal a scan of my proof of postage yet they refunded the Italian scammer the cost of the mobile PLUS postage!! They could see I had paid to post it but he got that back too!!

Ridiculous.

Also buried deep in the t&c's there is apparently one that says due to the fact Paypal use call centres all over the world dealing with huge amounts of low value money tranfers a certain amount of employee fraud is to be expected and is acceptable!!
banned#21
khalifazed
can you not copmplain to ofcom??? or trading standards
am sorry this has happned


Why would they complain to ofcom? Paypal isn't a communications company!

OP you need to appeal to paypal, give them a call and they will tell you how.

When did the buyer win the item and when did they start the claim? When did you supply the tracking number?
#22
i thought paypal as changed now that allows sellers to send to unconfirmed or comfirmed addresses and still be covered, or hasnt that come into effect yet?? there was an enrollment programme or something
#23
colinsunderland

OP you need to appeal to paypal, give them a call and they will tell you how.


Don't think it'd do any good as it was an unconfirmed address.
#24
n1ttygr1tty
i thought paypal as changed now that allows sellers to send to unconfirmed or comfirmed addresses and still be covered, or hasnt that come into effect yet?? there was an enrollment programme or something


I hadn't heard that, but would be interested to hear more.
#25
Google need to open their own version of ebay/paypal so we can all leave those cursed sites xD
#26
makes no difference if it's a confirmed or unconfirmed address
paypal refunds all
the ones I lost were sent to confirmed addresses

There is ebid and a few other auction sites, someone just needs to convince people to use them
#27
karenhornby
makes no difference if it's a confirmed or unconfirmed address
paypal refunds all
the ones I lost were sent to confirmed addresses

There is ebid and a few other auction sites, someone just needs to convince people to use them



Not if it's confirmed and you have proof of delivery???
#28
colinsunderland
Why would they complain to ofcom? Paypal isn't a communications company!

OP you need to appeal to paypal, give them a call and they will tell you how.

When did the buyer win the item and when did they start the claim? When did you supply the tracking number?


won the item on the 8th disputed on the 15th won it on the 16th. supplied tracking number on the 15th.
#29
ALICOM007
won the item on the 8th disputed on the 15th won it on the 16th. supplied tracking number on the 15th.


That's because it's an unconfirmed address, rubbish isn't it?
banned#30
ALICOM007
won the item on the 8th disputed on the 15th won it on the 16th. supplied tracking number on the 15th.


It might be that when they checked it was showing as undelivered, as it was only delivered on the 15th and it can take until quite late in the dy to show on the tracking. Definately appeal
#31
Ebay & Paypal are complete Carp now ... I have given up with them both!
#32
colinsunderland
It might be that when they checked it was showing as undelivered, as it was only delivered on the 15th and it can take until quite late in the dy to show on the tracking. Definately appeal


i checked on the same day i gave the tracking info. it was definately delivered. how do i appeal? i went to resolution centre and i complained/ is there a official way to appeal?
banned#33
ALICOM007
i checked on the same day i gave the tracking info. it was definately delivered. how do i appeal? i went to resolution centre and i complained/ is there a official way to appeal?


I think you need to call them but I'm not sure, if you ask on the ebay forums (payments and postage board) you will get the info you need
banned#34
Some buyer is trying to scam me, from bradford :whistling:

Anyway, I phoned royal mail and they are sending him a letter stating the item has been delivered with the POD, how stupid can buyers get.

Someone needs to start selling brain cells on eBay.
#35
wierdowoss
Some buyer is trying to scam me, from bradford :whistling:

Anyway, I phoned royal mail and they are sending him a letter stating the item has been delivered with the POD, how stupid can buyers get.

Someone needs to start selling brain cells on eBay.


i tried but ebay don't allow live body parts :| the nhs will sue them otherwise :p
#36
btw alicom you have about 10% of paypal reversing ......... you sent to an unconfirmed address..... you lose your protection from ebay ,,,,,,,

grab the sellers details from ebay (in help center somewhere) and ring the buyer, maybe a misunderstanding ...... he may (if he feels good enough) may send you the money again but maybe was a scam all along ........people dont confirm their address so ebay and paypal cant track them & they win items cos sellers dont check


last few days been a lot of ebay scams mentioned here ........ im gonna write a tutorial on how to stay safe from ebay & paypal ....... may help some .........

http://hotukdeals.com/item/244419/paypal-ebay-tutorials-how-not-to-ge/
banned#37
faevilangel;2989856
people dont confirm their address so ebay and paypal cant track them & they win items cos sellers dont check


Quite impossible to check though, until they pay for the item, which you then have to refund payment and seek second chance offer only to be hit with another unconfirmed address :roll:

eBay lately is a gamble for sellers
#38
faevilangel
btw alicom you have about 10% of paypal reversing ......... you sent to an unconfirmed address..... you lose your protection from ebay ,,,,,,,

grab the sellers details from ebay (in help center somewhere) and ring the buyer, maybe a misunderstanding ...... he may (if he feels good enough) may send you the money again but maybe was a scam all along ........people dont confirm their address so ebay and paypal cant track them & they win items cos sellers dont check


last few days been a lot of ebay scams mentioned here ........ im gonna write a tutorial on how to stay safe from ebay & paypal ....... may help some .........

http://hotukdeals.com/item/244419/paypal-ebay-tutorials-how-not-to-ge/


i really dont think its a misunderstanding. as soon as he got the money he was no longer registered.
#39
well ebay gave me my 74p insertion fee because i marked it as an unpiad item. i emailed ebay at around 5am and paypal at about the same time and still no answer from either of them.
#40
i want to buy something of ebay which ends in 2 hours. should i just pay of the negative balance or use a different account and keep leave it negative to appeal?

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