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Crap NHS service *rants*

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9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
Here's another bad story about the NHS service etc...

Basically because my brother had not not visited his dentist for over a year, they un-registered him. We had not recieved any warning of this and was only aware of the situation when he had a toothache and needed to see a dentist.
In the meanwhile he saw another dentist who was thankfully a relative (otherwise it would have been a long wait) and I rang around trying to find a new dentist for my brother. The number provided by his EX-dentist (for the LOCAL governing body of dentists) was incorrect and I was given another number to ring; after 4 DIFFERENT numbers I finally found a number which then gave me 5 local dentists (to a radius of about 10 miles out) that he would be able to register with. After ringing each of these it appeared that they were all full except for one which wouldn't accept any new patients till the end of July (a month and half wait.)

Now who thinks that they can do this?

Because surely its not hard to keep a few sheets of patient records etc, and because the last time I used a different NHS service; the doctors I was only there for a vaccination for a holiday and the doctor commented on my perfect health as I hadn't see him for 3 years.

Now the doctors are happy that you don't visit for a long time (3 years) but the dentist do and delete your records (after just 1 year!) Let's hope the opticians don't do the same as the dentist and be thankful that your previous deleted dental records aren't as important to your health as say doctors notes on what medication and operations you have had in the past.

P.S. because of the long wait to see a dentist in the UK for a toothache its appearing clear why these people travel to say Romania to see one.
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9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
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#1
I thought they'd give more than 1 year to boot you off NHS.
#2
He should have gone for his check ups. simple as that.
#3
stora
He should have gone for his check ups. simple as that.



I disagree - I've not been to the dentist for about 2 years now - and wouldn't have time to go just for a "check-up" Same as the Dr. I would only go when there is something wrong.

If you are one of those who has the time to go for your check up then full credit to you.
#4
go private...... and this is coming from someone who works for the NHS
[helper]#5
You have to understand how doctors and dentists are funded.

GPS are more than happy for you not to visit for 40 years. As long as you are still on their list they get paid. Its kids and the elderly they don't like. Lots of extra work (more visits to the surgery etc) but not that much extra pay.

The way dentists were funded changed a year or so ago. I think you have to go at least once a year for them to claim money from the NHS. Before they're payments were based on the treatment they carried out. This means a dentist who was "filling happy" would get more money than one who tried to get his patients to look after their teeth more.

Bottom line is go for your annual checkups. If you don't its a nightmare trying to find a dentist who takes on new NHS patients
#6
Becksdawe
I disagree - I've not been to the dentist for about 2 years now - and wouldn't have time to go just for a "check-up" Same as the Dr. I would only go when there is something wrong.

If you are one of those who has the time to go for your check up then full credit to you.


Regular checks would prevent serious problems arising . By not having regular check you could be costing the NHS more.

If you don't have time to take care of your own health, then maybe you should consider a lifestyle change. :)
#7
stora
Regular checks would prevent serious problems arising . By not having regular check you could be costing the NHS more.

If you don't have time to take care of your own health, then maybe you should consider a lifestyle change. :)



My teeth are fine - we are talking about those not health in general thanks.

My lifestyle is fine as it is - some people just don't have as much time as others.
#8
[SIZE="7"][COLOR="Red"]Prevention is always better than cure.[/COLOR][/SIZE]



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suspended#9
I go regular for my checkup & try and go every 6 months but my local dent dont send out reminders so if you forget then your off the list.I only go to the GP when i have no choice as i really do think they are a waste off time and before you even sit down to talk about your health problem the Paracetamol priscription is ready for you to take.Eyetest i think every 2 years well that is what i was told.
#10
how can you not have time for a 5 minute dental check every 9 months?
#11
dave smith
how can you not have time for a 5 minute dental check every 9 months?


I don't think it's quite a simple as that if you have a 9-5 Mon-Fri job. Trying to make an appointment at a time that suits, travelling and time in the chair all add up.

That said - it's not impossible :thumbsup:
#12
i never had a problem but then again it was no trouble leaving the office for half an hour or so at any time
#13
Greg
I don't think it's quite a simple as that if you have a 9-5 Mon-Fri job. Trying to make an appointment at a time that suits, travelling and time in the chair all add up.

That said - it's not impossible :thumbsup:


It also not very easy if you work in retail and your dentist is right next to a school (anywhere between 8.00 and 9.30 there's traffic and tons of parked cars as well as between 3.15pm to 4.00pm then rush hour traffic shortly after!)
#14
and to think i pay more than £500 a month in taxes !!
#15
Tell me about it, my tax codes always start with a K :(
#16
I'm in my thirties and until recently had never had anything done to my teeth. I too had been booted out of my NHS dentist without any letter from them or a reminder for an appointment. I'd been abroad for some time and hadn't been around to get a checkup.

So when I got toothache and rang them up they told me I was no longer on their books. It really is terrible service. You are, in effect, punished for not using their services (like another poster has pointed out).

Long story short I ended up having my first ever filling in a top notch dentist surgery in Poland of all places (place I happened to be when I couldn't put it off any longer).

Was quite amusing actually because the dentists over there, even the expensive (by local standards) ones, are used to the teeth of their customers being quite bad due to the standards of dentistry during communist times, no flouride in the water, no money for treatment etc. When the dentist looked at my teeth he was so impressed that he called in the other dentists, his nurses and students to have a look at my teeth because they rarely saw teeth in such good condition! :-D :-D

Felt a bit of a plonker sitting there with my mouth wedged open and people oohhing and ahhing over my nashers!

I wont be visiting any more NHS dentists over here; should the need for any more work need doing to my mouth (which I hope wont happen again) I'll be on a Ryanair back over to Poland. The prices they charge are a pittance compared to what a private dentist over here charges for the same procedure.

And this sealed it for me. One of the dentists in that practice chatted to me telling me that he had done some training course in Britain and that the levels of competence that new dentists over here had to attain to be able to practise don't even reach halfway to the competency levels that Polish dentists have to attain before they're allowed to operate on patients on their own. This scared me.

JS
#17
I wonder why he came over to Britain for the training course then ?
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stora
I wonder why he came over to Britain for the training course then ?


I asked him this myself. It was a freebie conference/seminar thing sponsored by one of the big dental manufacturers - to entice/endear practices to their products I assume.

I've been on similar jaunts to Belgium and France with my job. If someone offers me a free trip to a foreign city I go!

JS
#19
JohnnyStar
I asked him this myself. It was a freebie conference/seminar thing sponsored by one of the big dental manufacturers - to entice/endear practices to their products I assume.

I've been on similar jaunts to Belgium and France with my job. If someone offers me a free trip to a foreign city I go!

JS


Thanks. ;-)
#20
I've had awful experiences with a Polish dentists. Had to see another dentist to correct their terrible work. Polish dentistry is terrible.

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