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Custom Built PC - Is it worth it?

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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
Hello,

Just trying to decide if I made the wrong decision...

I have just purchased the following:
Intel q6600 processor
Asus P5Q Deluxe Mobo
Antec Three Hundred case
630W Hiper M PSU
Arctic Freezer CPU cooler

For around £390

I noticed that I could get a Dell Inspiron 530 for £419 delivered but that includes O/S, hard drive, memory and graphics card on top of the above. Probably not a great PSU/Mobo though...

Any thougts? Should I cancel and get the Dell? Order will be dispatched tomorrow and am a little worried Ive made a mistake self-building the PC...
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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1 Like #1
the custom pc should have a memory and a hard drive installed it most likley hasnt been advetised and to be honest the dell pc will probz only have a ****** graphics card and it deffnety wont have as good a psu as the custom one has
KEEP THE CUSTOM PC
1 Like #2
Custom is the way to go dude, you wont regret it.:thumbsup:
#3
woppy101
the custom pc should have a memory and a hard drive installed it most likley hasnt been advetised and to be honest the dell pc will probz only have a ****** graphics card and it deffnety wont have as good a psu as the custom one has
KEEP THE CUSTOM PC



Im building the custom pc myself ;) So that price doesnt include HD or Graphics card or Memmory /os... £40 for the memmory and £40 for the OS (through the OU) makes it £480 but using existing hard drive. Paying effectively extra £120 for custom pc.
#4
sounds a lot of money as some of the components are budget items,You want to go to Scan and price up the items you have listed
#5
here you go mate cancel your old order and order this
AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core Socket AM2+ 2.2GHz 4MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 143261 6 in stock £98.02
ASUS M3N78 GeForce 8200 Socket AM2+ onboard Graphics 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 151484 19 in stock£52.84
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 HyperX Memory Non-ECC CL5 133709 592 in stock £49.04
XFX 9600GT 512MB OC Edition DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 149116 53 in stock £81.21
Hiper 580W Type-M Black PSU - SLI Certified with APFC 109552 8 in stock £55.42
Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU 143854 59 in stock £44.99
Cart total inc vat: £381.52
all the parts you need mate all from ebuyer
#6
woppy101
here you go mate cancel your old order and order this
AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core Socket AM2+ 2.2GHz 4MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 143261 6 in stock £98.02
ASUS M3N78 GeForce 8200 Socket AM2+ onboard Graphics 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard 151484 19 in stock£52.84
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 HyperX Memory Non-ECC CL5 133709 592 in stock £49.04
XFX 9600GT 512MB OC Edition DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 149116 53 in stock £81.21
Hiper 580W Type-M Black PSU - SLI Certified with APFC 109552 8 in stock £55.42
Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU 143854 59 in stock £44.99
Cart total inc vat: £381.52
all the parts you need mate all from ebuyer


tonyg1962
sounds a lot of money as some of the components are budget items,You want to go to Scan and price up the items you have listed


Thanks - 'tis AMD Phenom though and from what Ive read it isnt that great compared to the q6600 - esp if I overclock it?

The order IS from scan. lol
#7
Price as follows:

Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro V2 - 1 £12.89
Asus P5Q Deluxe, iP45, S775, PCI-E 1 £125.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, Kentsfield 1 £117.66
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Nett total £256.54
Carriage £0.00
VAT £38.48
Total £295.02


thats scan then from Novatech:

Antec Three Hundred Case - Black - £49.44
Hiper 630W HPU-4M630-PE 85% Efficiency, w/8P PCI-E, UK + EU £62.10


Memory will be another £40. dont need GPU or hard drive as got that already :)

£406+ memory+ OS.
#8
unless you are a overclocking freak and love benchmarking like me you wont notice much diffrence i have owned both chips i got my 9550 up to 2.9ghz and my Q6600 up to 3.7ghz i benched them both in games @2.9ghz and i only found a diffrence of about 5-7fps
but if you want a Q6600 here is a new system
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 HyperX Memory Non-ECC CL5 133709 592 in stock £49.04
XFX 9600GT 512MB OC Edition DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 149116 53 in stock £81.21
Hiper 580W Type-M Black PSU - SLI Certified with APFC 109552 8 in stock £55.42
Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU 143854 57 in stock £44.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz) Socket 775 L2 8MB Cache (2x4MB (4MB per core pair) Retail Boxed Processor 131950 183 in stock £149.95
ASUS P5K AiLifestyle Series iP35 Socket 775 eSATA 8channel Audio ATX Motherboard 129125 1 in stock £61.61
(click if you have changed any details) Cart total inc vat: £442.22
#9
woppy101
unless you are a overclocking freak and love benchmarking like me you wont notice much diffrence i have owned both chips i got my 9550 up to 2.9ghz and my Q6600 up to 3.7ghz i benched them both in games @2.9ghz and i only found a diffrence of about 5-7fps
but if you want a Q6600 here is a new system
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 HyperX Memory Non-ECC CL5 133709 592 in stock £49.04
XFX 9600GT 512MB OC Edition DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 149116 53 in stock £81.21
Hiper 580W Type-M Black PSU - SLI Certified with APFC 109552 8 in stock £55.42
Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU 143854 57 in stock £44.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz) Socket 775 L2 8MB Cache (2x4MB (4MB per core pair) Retail Boxed Processor 131950 183 in stock £149.95
ASUS P5K AiLifestyle Series iP35 Socket 775 eSATA 8channel Audio ATX Motherboard 129125 1 in stock £61.61
(click if you have changed any details) Cart total inc vat: £442.22


if you dont need a graphics card then from ebuyer it will cost you £361 for the whole system
#10
Thanks for that. H and R left :)

It will be used for Photoshop quite a bit, as well as gaming. £361 is £80 cheaper - guess Im paying the extra for the MOBO as Im an avid ASUS fan. lol.

Spent a month planning this and still mess it up! May cancel and go for the phenom. Reading this though Im not so sure:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=16
#11
Always build a PC.. its quicker to build one and put on exactly what you want, rather than buying one and spending the next 8hrs unstalling the carp that dell put on it.

also you can get the exact specs you want, and its easier to upgrade in the future.. also u get a warntee on all the indvidual parts in the PC.. If you bought one for a shop if u open the case you ussaly void the warntee, so you cannot upgrade etc..

plus shop pcs always have carp cases were the edges are sharpe and jsut nasty..

i can go on for hours lol... a buit pc is better imho!
#12
Babbler
Thanks for that. H and R left :)

It will be used for Photoshop quite a bit, as well as gaming. £361 is £80 cheaper - guess Im paying the extra for the MOBO as Im an avid ASUS fan. lol.

Spent a month planning this and still mess it up! May cancel and go for the phenom. Reading this though Im not so sure:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=16

to be honest mate the q6600 is a better chip than the amd chip like i said but that review was done on the first revision of the the chip which every one knows had an almighty bug the newer revisions of the chip are doing a lot better
#13
Tanchi
Always build a PC.. its quicker to build one and put on exactly what you want, rather than buying one and spending the next 8hrs unstalling the carp that dell put on it.

also you can get the exact specs you want, and its easier to upgrade in the future.. also u get a warntee on all the indvidual parts in the PC.. If you bought one for a shop if u open the case you ussaly void the warntee, so you cannot upgrade etc..

plus shop pcs always have carp cases were the edges are sharpe and jsut nasty..

i can go on for hours lol... a buit pc is better imho!

+1

Would deffo rather build and you learn so much more from building.:thumbsup:
banned#14
You get the added satisfaction of telling everyone you build your own computers too. Just ordered my second custom for my grandad hopefully he appreciates the added effort.
#15
cool - so basically a good thing Im building it. Just confused now if I got the right componants!!!
#16
Custom is better IMO, but the dell outlet were doing some good deals when the £100 off was on. It might come back.

Vostro 410 with Q6600/3GB/500GB/8800GT for £326 delivered was nice.
#17
-1 for custom building.

Custom building is usually best for value and there's all the advantages of the knowledge and technical confidence it gives you with the system, but if you can shop smartly, you can get yourself something pretty excellent for less money than you'd pay if you bought the parts seperately. Plus, and this is a major thing imo, you get a proper warranty with it. Go with Dell with a next business day warranty, and you'll never be without your machine for more than a day or so. Compare that to the weeks you could be without your system for if you have to rely on the nonsence that is eBuyer's RMA system.

So, better value, better support, more up time, occasional little warranty bonuses like replacement (and suitably updated) systems if things go wrong over and over. You have to be careful with it, but buying pre-built can be great.
banned#18
i build and repair pc as my part time job.
i love it!
Would never buy a pre-built system from Dell or such like ever.
Never have, never will.
#19
Custom PC ftw

However it can be a pain in the **** setting it up. Im abit of a perfectionist when I build one lol, think I have ocd, always trying to get the best outta it then benchmarking it. PLus I had vista 64 when it literally came out, christ it was a pain getting programs to work properly
#20
Its hard making a new pc, just be happy it will be fast and modern. You have bought great cpu too.

Everyone has different ideas, a decent custom will cost about £400 with a top end cpu and lots of other bits it all adds up.
banned#21
jizzm
i build and repair pc as my part time job.
i love it!
Would never buy a pre-built system from Dell or such like ever.
Never have, never will.


How do you build laptops? :-D
#22
I need a new pc, and need some good tips for parts etc. If any of you can help? It will be mostly used for Flight Simulator like once a week, surfing and dreamweaever.

Sorry op for coming in on your post

Cheers
Strike
#23
strike
I need a new pc, and need some good tips for parts etc. If any of you can help? It will be mostly used for Flight Simulator like once a week, surfing and dreamweaever.

Sorry op for coming in on your post

Cheers
Strike


No worries - dont mind this taking different directions. Its interesting!

I havent cancelled my order. Think its good value overall - was just feeling a little guilty spending so much money!! Will have to really vut back on other HUKD deals - lol. We need a HUKD Annonymous club!!! :oops:

You should tell us your budget - may be able to help! :)
#24
I always used to be pro custom PCs but i think some of the makers have got very good with their pricing for systems to the extent that i would look on a pc by pc basis. I looked at sticking myself one together a few months ago and it just didnt work out competitive.
#25
dxx
-1 for custom building.

Custom building is usually best for value and there's all the advantages of the knowledge and technical confidence it gives you with the system, but if you can shop smartly, you can get yourself something pretty excellent for less money than you'd pay if you bought the parts seperately. Plus, and this is a major thing imo, you get a proper warranty with it. Go with Dell with a next business day warranty, and you'll never be without your machine for more than a day or so. Compare that to the weeks you could be without your system for if you have to rely on the nonsence that is eBuyer's RMA system.

So, better value, better support, more up time, occasional little warranty bonuses like replacement (and suitably updated) systems if things go wrong over and over. You have to be careful with it, but buying pre-built can be great.


i have never had a problem with ebuyers rma system and i have returned a lot of graphics cards and motherboards they even changed one graphics card i had blown up by not putting a water block on propley
#26
strike
I need a new pc, and need some good tips for parts etc. If any of you can help? It will be mostly used for Flight Simulator like once a week, surfing and dreamweaever.

Sorry op for coming in on your post

Cheers
Strike

tell us how much you want to spend and i will knock up a system up for you buddy
#27
woppy101
i have never had a problem with ebuyers rma system and i have returned a lot of graphics cards and motherboards they even changed one graphics card i had blown up by not putting a water block on propley


But how long does it all take? Half an hour to log in, fill the RMA form in with all the details you need to give them, a couple of days for them to get back to you with an RMA number, a couple more days for the postal service to carry the package from yours to theirs (which you have to take to the post office yourself, too), more days still for them to test it, and then even more days for them to send you that replacement part. By my calculations, that's minimum of a week, maybe two, and you're down £5 for postage and you've spent far more of your time than you should have arranging the RMA.

By comparison, phone Dell, tell them what's wrong, run through some basic troubleshooting for ten minutes or so, and at the end of a 20 minute phonecall (at most - good agents can close a call in under 5), your part is done. Next day, an engineer will come and take the problematic part out and replace it for you. And how much easier is that?
#28
dxx
-1 for custom building.

Custom building is usually best for value and there's all the advantages of the knowledge and technical confidence it gives you with the system, but if you can shop smartly, you can get yourself something pretty excellent for less money than you'd pay if you bought the parts seperately. Plus, and this is a major thing imo, you get a proper warranty with it. Go with Dell with a next business day warranty, and you'll never be without your machine for more than a day or so. Compare that to the weeks you could be without your system for if you have to rely on the nonsence that is eBuyer's RMA system.

So, better value, better support, more up time, occasional little warranty bonuses like replacement (and suitably updated) systems if things go wrong over and over. You have to be careful with it, but buying pre-built can be great.



Slight problem tho.. if you want to upgrade your PC u have to open the case and then you void your warrntee
#29
Tanchi
Slight problem tho.. if you want to upgrade your PC u have to open the case and then you void your warrntee


With some companies yeah, but not with Dell. Dell make their systems easily accessible precisely because they want their customers to open the case when things go wrong with it so that problems can be troubleshooted over the phone. It's just much cheaper that way, since it means that a problem caused by a loose part can be fixed over the phone using the customer's hands, rather than those of an engineer which would cost Dell something in the order of £100 to dispatch. Obviously, they won't support a system if it has 3rd-party hardware in it, but restore a Dell back to its original state and they'll be none the wiser.
1 Like #30
There is no way that building a custom spec PC is cheaper than buying from Dell. Unless you are spending £1000+ on SLi/Crossfire or some sort of water-cooling set-up, there is no way you can beat Dell on price.

The most cost effective way to build your own PC nowadays is by;
1. Buying from Dell then upgrading the parts you need to change (new or used). Then selling the replaced parts on eBay.
2. Building a PC from used parts from the ground up - getting bargains on eBay.
3. Building a PC that is so specific (SLi, Water-cooling etc) to your needs, that there is no way Dell can offer anything even remotely close to what you need.
4. Building a PC around a platform that is considered much slower than its competition (Phenom)
#31
dxx
But how long does it all take? Half an hour to log in, fill the RMA form in with all the details you need to give them, a couple of days for them to get back to you with an RMA number, a couple more days for the postal service to carry the package from yours to theirs (which you have to take to the post office yourself, too), more days still for them to test it, and then even more days for them to send you that replacement part. By my calculations, that's minimum of a week, maybe two, and you're down £5 for postage and you've spent far more of your time than you should have arranging the RMA.

By comparison, phone Dell, tell them what's wrong, run through some basic troubleshooting for ten minutes or so, and at the end of a 20 minute phonecall (at most - good agents can close a call in under 5), your part is done. Next day, an engineer will come and take the problematic part out and replace it for you. And how much easier is that?


when ever i have rma'd anything to ebuyer it has been collected by city-link aranged by ebuyer it has never taken more than 6 hours to get a rma number then a pick up aranged and i have rma'd about 20 things to ebuyer and the max turn around i have had is 4 days after pick up to delivery of my new item
#32
PhearFactor
There is no way that building a custom spec PC is cheaper than buying from Dell. Unless you are spending £1000+ on SLi/Crossfire or some sort of water-cooling set-up, there is no way you can beat Dell on price.

The most cost effective way to build your own PC nowadays is by;
1. Buying from Dell then upgrading the parts you need to change (new or used). Then selling the replaced parts on eBay.
2. Building a PC from used parts from the ground up - getting bargains on eBay.
3. Building a PC that is so specific (SLi, Water-cooling etc) to your needs, that there is no way Dell can offer anything even remotely close to what you need.
4. Building a PC around a platform that is considered much slower than its competition (Phenom)


im sorry but i dissagree with you a dell pc 9 times out ot 10 is maxd out with the components you bought
what i mean is if you bought a dell with a 9600gt graphics card for instance and after 6 months you wanted the put in a 9800gtx+ the psu that is in the computer would not be able to supply the power needed for that card so you couldnt upgrade dell have always done things that way to force people to buy again when thay want to upgrade
#33
I think the same goes if you build a custom spec PC for the best bang for the buck. You build around the spec you want right now, not what you might need in the future. A PSU you buy from eBuyer or Scan for around £40 will likely have the same amount of use as a Dell PSU in a year or two years time.
#34
What I hate is that non custom built PCs tend not to tell you what MOBO they use. I specifically wanted this MOBO and hence had to build my own system. I probably could have saved £100 by going through Dell (and partly feel I should have) but couldnt have got these parts for the same price.

BTW FWIW Im goging for 4gb OCZ Memory from Ebuyer for £42 delivered... :)

My order has been posted so too late to worry about things now. Just hope I havent made a big mistake! May downgrade the PSU to a 580 instead of the 630 and save £15 - whats 50 watts between friends? :D
#35
well i want to spend around 400, already got a 19inch hd screen. :) would need wireless mouse and keyboard and im sure i could pick it up for cheap anyway.
#36
strike
well i want to spend around 400, already got a 19inch hd screen. :) would need wireless mouse and keyboard and im sure i could pick it up for cheap anyway.


Do you need an operating system with that? If not my system cost me around £420 :-D


Just noticed I bought the wrong CPU cooler - meant to get the arctic pro 7 not the 64! :( Also been told it may not fit - damn! Now need to find alternative for around £15. Hopefull this will be the only mistake I make!
#37
dont need OS as i have my sources.
#38
strike
well i want to spend around 400, already got a 19inch hd screen. :) would need wireless mouse and keyboard and im sure i could pick it up for cheap anyway.

here you go mate all ebuyer


Intel Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66GHz Socket 775 (1066FSB) 3MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 150186 100 in stock £90.41
Foxconn G43MX iG43 Socket 775 onboard VGA DVI 7.1 channel audio mATX Motherboard 152230 9 in stock £69.99
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 Memory GOLD DUAL CHANNEL Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-18) 146049 193 in stock £33.00
Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 650W PSU *SPECIAL OFFER* 148683 37 in stock £68.50
Samsung HD502IJ SpinPoint F1 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM 146252 161 in stock £41.26
LiteOn IHAS120 20X SATA DVD±RW/DL Black Bare Drive - OEM 149316 345 in stock £14.99
PowerColor HD 3870 512MB GDDR3 Dual DVI TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 153222 6 in stock £78.60
Cart total inc vat:£396.75
#39
woppy101
here you go mate all ebuyer


Intel Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66GHz Socket 775 (1066FSB) 3MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 150186 100 in stock £90.41
Foxconn G43MX iG43 Socket 775 onboard VGA DVI 7.1 channel audio mATX Motherboard 152230 9 in stock £69.99
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 Memory GOLD DUAL CHANNEL Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-18) 146049 193 in stock £33.00
Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 650W PSU *SPECIAL OFFER* 148683 37 in stock £68.50
Samsung HD502IJ SpinPoint F1 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache - OEM 146252 161 in stock £41.26
LiteOn IHAS120 20X SATA DVD±RW/DL Black Bare Drive - OEM 149316 345 in stock £14.99
PowerColor HD 3870 512MB GDDR3 Dual DVI TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card 153222 6 in stock £78.60
Cart total inc vat:£396.75



For an extra £3 Id get the Crucial 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Ballistix Memory
Qty: 1Cost: 30.80 + vat. Better than the OCZ mem and lower latancy. Reduced in the sale :) - Thats what I just bought :)
#40
I heard samsung HDD are not the best

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