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Is anyone else suffering from crazy cyclists at the moment? I'm not sure if this is due to cycles being given as Christmas presents but in the area I live there seems to be a lot more cycles on the ro… Read More
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banned2y, 3m agoPosted 2 years, 3 months ago
Is anyone else suffering from crazy cyclists at the moment? I'm not sure if this is due to cycles being given as Christmas presents but in the area I live there seems to be a lot more cycles on the road causing problems for car drivers.

Some ride like the clappers even on icy roads and it got me thinking if they bump my car are they even insured?

Personally I think riding on the pavement should be allowed at reduced speeds of course, to not cause problems for pedestrians. Or the should have insurance to be on the road.
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banned2y, 3m agoPosted 2 years, 3 months ago
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I ride on the pavement sometimes if needs be and people say sorry if they get in my way :|
but I always help them back on their feet and tell them no need to say sorry before carrying on with my journey :)
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Yes a lot of them are arrogant people, I was in the local supermarket the other day and a bearded lycra clad tour de france wanna be came actually cycling into the store, where he was acosted by the security guard who told him to get his bike out. He complained "but I don't have a lock, I just want to get a drink from the cigarette counter" - The security guard rightly kicked him out despite him hurling insults and complaints.

Now if he hadn't been an arrogant office walla type, if he had been a cool, hoody clad "normal person" cyclist that actively avoids the dangerous roads and conflicts etc he would of dismounted, approached the security guard passively and said "can you watch my bike a sec mate while I just grab a drink" but no, he was a dh; the kind that jump lights, the kind that will ignore the no cycling signs on pedestrian precincts, the kind that uses the road on their 800 quid road bike when there is a perfectly good cycle path running parallel just to make some kind of statement, infact that kind that spends that kind of money just to brag to their other office walla mates, who are infact the only ones that are impressed, everyone else thinks they are a bit of a bell for spending that kind of money on a bike.

No one minds the law abiding, non tour de france wannabe kind of cyclist, going to work on their £250 quid bike, using the cycle paths (as long as they have lights) The other kind though, they should be removed from the gene pool.

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****popcorn thread*****

I'm all for cyclists but all I ask is the obey the Highway Code like motorists should.
Yes they can cycle 2 a breast on the road, yes they can filter through traffic. Just observe traffic lights, wear suitable reflective clothing and sod off with the high and might attitude. We all have to travel somewhere, whether it is in a tin can or a skin gravel suit.

Edited By: Oneday77 on Dec 30, 2014 07:41
banned 8 Likes #2
I ride on the pavement sometimes if needs be and people say sorry if they get in my way :|
but I always help them back on their feet and tell them no need to say sorry before carrying on with my journey :)
#3
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.
#4
there are more over the festive season because they can't drink and drive but they can drink and ride.

we nearly ran into a cyclist on Christmas day. unlucky for us a police car was behind us so we got pulled over. just got a caution. phew.

as a pedestrian I feel very unsafe when I see cyclists on pavements.
#5
They're terrible in Central London; barely see any stop for red lights, I intentionally walk slower in their path on crossings now.

Edited By: teh arn on Dec 30, 2014 09:59: sp
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

Edited By: rev6 on Dec 30, 2014 09:28
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Yes a lot of them are arrogant people, I was in the local supermarket the other day and a bearded lycra clad tour de france wanna be came actually cycling into the store, where he was acosted by the security guard who told him to get his bike out. He complained "but I don't have a lock, I just want to get a drink from the cigarette counter" - The security guard rightly kicked him out despite him hurling insults and complaints.

Now if he hadn't been an arrogant office walla type, if he had been a cool, hoody clad "normal person" cyclist that actively avoids the dangerous roads and conflicts etc he would of dismounted, approached the security guard passively and said "can you watch my bike a sec mate while I just grab a drink" but no, he was a dh; the kind that jump lights, the kind that will ignore the no cycling signs on pedestrian precincts, the kind that uses the road on their 800 quid road bike when there is a perfectly good cycle path running parallel just to make some kind of statement, infact that kind that spends that kind of money just to brag to their other office walla mates, who are infact the only ones that are impressed, everyone else thinks they are a bit of a bell for spending that kind of money on a bike.

No one minds the law abiding, non tour de france wannabe kind of cyclist, going to work on their £250 quid bike, using the cycle paths (as long as they have lights) The other kind though, they should be removed from the gene pool.
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.
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Yes a lot of them are arrogant people, I was in the local supermarket the other day and a bearded lycra clad tour de france wanna be came actually cycling into the store, where he was acosted by the security guard who told him to get his bike out. He complained "but I don't have a lock, I just want to get a drink from the cigarette counter" - The security guard rightly kicked him out despite him hurling insults and complaints.

Now if he hadn't been an arrogant office walla type, if he had been a cool, hoody clad "normal person" cyclist that actively avoids the dangerous roads and conflicts etc he would of dismounted, approached the security guard passively and said "can you watch my bike a sec mate while I just grab a drink" but no, he was a dh; the kind that jump lights, the kind that will ignore the no cycling signs on pedestrian precincts, the kind that uses the road on their 800 quid road bike when there is a perfectly good cycle path running parallel just to make some kind of statement, infact that kind that spends that kind of money just to brag to their other office walla mates, who are infact the only ones that are impressed, everyone else thinks they are a bit of a bell for spending that kind of money on a bike.

No one minds the law abiding, non tour de france wannabe kind of cyclist, going to work on their £250 quid bike, using the cycle paths (as long as they have lights) The other kind though, they should be removed from the gene pool.

You seem very opinionated on the subject.
The first paragraph is right, it was wrong for him to do that and rightly kicked out. The next paragraph is just you being a stereotype. What classes someone as "normal"? Someone not spending any more on a bike than say £200, but it must be from Halfords? I don't get the rest of it. Because this guy cycled into a store, they jump red lights? So much confusion.
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mittromney
rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.
3 Likes #11
Give me cyclists over stupid dog walkers and their stupid dogs any day of the week.
#12
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mittromney
rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax
2 Likes #13
mittromney
rev6
mittromney
rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the pollution that comes out of your car.
Payers of income tax, council tax, those are the funds that go into the road, yes that includes cyclists.

Edited By: rev6 on Dec 30, 2014 10:04
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

Uneducated comment - must try harder (with today's technology it would have taken 30 secs to check your answer before posting)

Signed your teacher
banned#16
rev6
Musician
Yes a lot of them are arrogant people, I was in the local supermarket the other day and a bearded lycra clad tour de france wanna be came actually cycling into the store, where he was acosted by the security guard who told him to get his bike out. He complained "but I don't have a lock, I just want to get a drink from the cigarette counter" - The security guard rightly kicked him out despite him hurling insults and complaints.

Now if he hadn't been an arrogant office walla type, if he had been a cool, hoody clad "normal person" cyclist that actively avoids the dangerous roads and conflicts etc he would of dismounted, approached the security guard passively and said "can you watch my bike a sec mate while I just grab a drink" but no, he was a dh; the kind that jump lights, the kind that will ignore the no cycling signs on pedestrian precincts, the kind that uses the road on their 800 quid road bike when there is a perfectly good cycle path running parallel just to make some kind of statement, infact that kind that spends that kind of money just to brag to their other office walla mates, who are infact the only ones that are impressed, everyone else thinks they are a bit of a bell for spending that kind of money on a bike.

No one minds the law abiding, non tour de france wannabe kind of cyclist, going to work on their £250 quid bike, using the cycle paths (as long as they have lights) The other kind though, they should be removed from the gene pool.

You seem very opinionated on the subject.
The first paragraph is right, it was wrong for him to do that and rightly kicked out. The next paragraph is just you being a stereotype. What classes someone as "normal"? Someone not spending any more on a bike than say £200, but it must be from Halfords? I don't get the rest of it. Because this guy cycled into a store, they jump red lights? So much confusion.

Didn't say anything about Halfords, or spending 200 quid, I said there is a certain type, of which this man was; expensive bike, lycra, arrogant. He is the type that jumps red lights, stereotype maybe, but they exist, I see them everyday.
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mittromney
rev6
mittromney
rev6
mittromney
rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.
#18
Musician
Yes a lot of them are arrogant people, I was in the local supermarket the other day and a bearded lycra clad tour de france wanna be came actually cycling into the store, where he was acosted by the security guard who told him to get his bike out. He complained "but I don't have a lock, I just want to get a drink from the cigarette counter" - The security guard rightly kicked him out despite him hurling insults and complaints.

Now if he hadn't been an arrogant office walla type, if he had been a cool, hoody clad "normal person" cyclist that actively avoids the dangerous roads and conflicts etc he would of dismounted, approached the security guard passively and said "can you watch my bike a sec mate while I just grab a drink" but no, he was a dh; the kind that jump lights, the kind that will ignore the no cycling signs on pedestrian precincts, the kind that uses the road on their 800 quid road bike when there is a perfectly good cycle path running parallel just to make some kind of statement, infact that kind that spends that kind of money just to brag to their other office walla mates, who are infact the only ones that are impressed, everyone else thinks they are a bit of a bell for spending that kind of money on a bike.

No one minds the law abiding, non tour de france wannabe kind of cyclist, going to work on their £250 quid bike, using the cycle paths (as long as they have lights) The other kind though, they should be removed from the gene pool.

Can't fault your comment

I've been a cyclist and also a driver and there is only one thing to understand (sadly it;s missing from most parts of life) respect
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So much hatrid in this thread :( unfortunately a few do spoil it for the majority there are ahole drivers as much as there a ahole cyclists. i have had eggs thrown at me out of a moving car for example, just for riding a bike. But let's get the facts about vehicle excise duty correct please.
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rev6
mittromney
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.

Have you seen your council tax breakdown?
This fiscal year car tax will generate £5.9 billion.
#21
mittromney
rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

It's not road tax

And in general response to your comment - should pedestrians also pay Vehicle Excise Duty?

Yes it's called Vehicle Excise Duty

Note the word Vehicle and define Vehicle!
1 Like #22
mittromney
rev6
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rev6
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.

Have you seen your council tax breakdown?
This fiscal year car tax will generate £5.9 billion.

It doesn't matter what the tax goes towards really, income tax or council tax doesn't go towards just one thing either. There's no road tax anymore, and if you spout that **** to any cyclist they will only laugh at you.
1 Like #23
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mittromney
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mittromney
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.

Have you seen your council tax breakdown?
This fiscal year car tax will generate £5.9 billion.

It doesn't matter what the tax goes towards really, income tax or council tax doesn't go towards just one thing either. There's no road tax anymore, and if you spout that **** to any cyclist they will only laugh at you.

So you havent seen your council tax breakdown? You are told specifically where your money is going.

Dress it up however you like. Motorists pay for roads and then some.
Road users are now paying four times more money to Chancellor George Osborne in motoring taxes than is being spent by the Government on roads, according to research by the RAC Foundation.

The motoring research charity found that in 2012 a total of £30.7billion was raised from direct motoring taxation; £24.8bn from fuel duty and £5.9bn from vehicle excise duty (VED). However, in the same year just £7.5bn (24 per cent of motoring tax income) was spent on the road network, with £3bn spent on national roads and £4.5bn on local roads.

That figure was down on the previous year, too, where the Government received £30.9bn from motorists, but invested £7.9bn on maintaining the road network.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/89224/only-a-quarter-of-car-tax-is-spent-on-roads#ixzz3NNKG4Pzx
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mittromney
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mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.

Have you seen your council tax breakdown?
This fiscal year car tax will generate £5.9 billion.

It doesn't matter what the tax goes towards really, income tax or council tax doesn't go towards just one thing either. There's no road tax anymore, and if you spout that **** to any cyclist they will only laugh at you.

So you havent seen your council tax breakdown? You are told specifically where your money is going.

Dress it up however you like. Motorists pay for roads and then some.
Road users are now paying four times more money to Chancellor George Osborne in motoring taxes than is being spent by the Government on roads, according to research by the RAC Foundation.

The motoring research charity found that in 2012 a total of £30.7billion was raised from direct motoring taxation; £24.8bn from fuel duty and £5.9bn from vehicle excise duty (VED). However, in the same year just £7.5bn (24 per cent of motoring tax income) was spent on the road network, with £3bn spent on national roads and £4.5bn on local roads.

That figure was down on the previous year, too, where the Government received £30.9bn from motorists, but invested £7.9bn on maintaining the road network.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/89224/only-a-quarter-of-car-tax-is-spent-on-roads#ixzz3NNKG4Pzx

Your original comment basically went like this "Vehicle drivers pay for the road, cyclists shouldn't use it"
How wrong you are.
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mittromney

Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

So how come i pay £0 road tax on my car?

Road tax was abolished over 75 years ago!
#26
Keep em off the pavement if they hit your car you get a scratch, if they hit a pedestrian they get a broken arm or worse. Some cow nearly went into my pushchair once riding on the pavement at speed.
#27
In reply to mitt, don't forget many cyclists are also car owners..and to Error440 ...did the cow sound it's horn? oO
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get out of my way humans !!
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banned 2 Likes #29
@MittRomney

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Carley
mittromney

Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

So how come i pay £0 road tax on my car?

Road tax was abolished over 75 years ago!

It is a debatable topic as cyclist don't pay directly towards the roads, every one does. It appears vehicles users should have priority on the roads as they pay an extra fee to drive on them, while failing to realize why they're paying it, and what can be done to reduce it and/or avoid it.
2 Likes #31
The biggest problem i have with cyclists is their lack of awareness about making themselves seen. Dark clothing, no lights or poor lights and wearing headphones so they can't hear me when i shout, "You fucing idiot! I could have killed you!"

Be safe, be seen and take off the headphones!
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oO:)
http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/funny-german-bike-stand.gif
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Mark2111
The biggest problem i have with cyclists is their lack of awareness about making themselves seen. Dark clothing, no lights or poor lights and wearing headphones so they can't hear me when i shout, "You fucing idiot! I could have killed you!"

Be safe, be seen and take off the headphones!

Boris was going to pass a law on that but the dumb cyclists complained about legislation that would make them safer, let them get flattened I say.
#34
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Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

It's easy to mistake vehicle excise duty with road tax. Everyone that pays general tax pays for the road.

err no. The money generated from road tax goes into funding and maintaining the roads. (They also siphon much of it off to spend on other stuff) Drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

There's no such thing as road tax.

Drivers know Road Tax

For cars registered after March 1st, 2001, the DVLA car tax rate (Vehicle Excise Duty) is based on the car's CO2 emissions and the type of fuel it uses.

For cars registered before March 1st, 2001, car tax is based on engine size only. There is one rate for engines up to 1549cc and one for 1550cc and over.

This was taken from the link you sent. There's no such thing as road tax. You're basically paying for the **** that comes out of the back of your car.


Not interested in how government calculates how much we pay.
Point is and stop deviating from it with semantics, drivers pay for the roads, cyclists dont.

Any one that pays income tax and council tax pays for the road.

Have you seen your council tax breakdown?
This fiscal year car tax will generate £5.9 billion.

It doesn't matter what the tax goes towards really, income tax or council tax doesn't go towards just one thing either. There's no road tax anymore, and if you spout that **** to any cyclist they will only laugh at you.

So you havent seen your council tax breakdown? You are told specifically where your money is going.

Dress it up however you like. Motorists pay for roads and then some.
Road users are now paying four times more money to Chancellor George Osborne in motoring taxes than is being spent by the Government on roads, according to research by the RAC Foundation.

The motoring research charity found that in 2012 a total of £30.7billion was raised from direct motoring taxation; £24.8bn from fuel duty and £5.9bn from vehicle excise duty (VED). However, in the same year just £7.5bn (24 per cent of motoring tax income) was spent on the road network, with £3bn spent on national roads and £4.5bn on local roads.

That figure was down on the previous year, too, where the Government received £30.9bn from motorists, but invested £7.9bn on maintaining the road network.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/89224/only-a-quarter-of-car-tax-is-spent-on-roads#ixzz3NNKG4Pzx

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/200028/council_tax/5528/what_your_council_tax_pays_for

We all pay for the road, unless you're a child.
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Error440
Mark2111
The biggest problem i have with cyclists is their lack of awareness about making themselves seen. Dark clothing, no lights or poor lights and wearing headphones so they can't hear me when i shout, "You fucing idiot! I could have killed you!"

Be safe, be seen and take off the headphones!

Boris was going to pass a law on that but the dumb cyclists complained about legislation that would make them safer, let them get flattened I say.

Another stereotype.
#36
Carley
So much hatrid in this thread :( unfortunately a few do spoil it for the majority there are ahole drivers as much as there a ahole cyclists. i have had eggs thrown at me out of a moving car for example, just for riding a bike. But let's get the facts about vehicle excise duty correct please.


If it was just a few then there would be no problem (they'd have removed themselves from the gene pool by now), but it's not just a few.
I counted at the lights on the way into town. 14 sets of lights, 57 cyclists of which 4 waited for the lights to change! That's not the minority, that's most of them not giving a damn.

I was also faced with 3 cyclist going the wrong way down a one way street! Something which seems to be coming more and more the norm with them...

Bikes should have something on them so they can be ID'd and the riders given the fines they deserve.
#37
mittromney
Screw cyclists. We pay road tax we shouldn't have to put up with cyclists playing frogger on the roads.

Clueless, you don't even understand why you pay tax! Get with the times dude! And what about those car that do not pay your so called 'road' tax, the ones that are exempt, should they not be allowed on the road either?
#38
steve1221
Carley
So much hatrid in this thread :( unfortunately a few do spoil it for the majority there are ahole drivers as much as there a ahole cyclists. i have had eggs thrown at me out of a moving car for example, just for riding a bike. But let's get the facts about vehicle excise duty correct please.

If it was just a few then there would be no problem (they'd have removed themselves from the gene pool by now), but it's not just a few.
I counted at the lights on the way into town. 14 sets of lights, 57 cyclists of which 4 waited for the lights to change! That's not the minority, that's most of them not giving a damn.

I was also faced with 3 cyclist going the wrong way down a one way street! Something which seems to be coming more and more the norm with them...

Bikes should have something on them so they can be ID'd and the riders given the fines they deserve.

Make it mandatory to take a cycling proficiency test before you can buy 1, have a database they can check like when you buy a new tv, won't affect second hand sales but it would help and can be applied to other things like buying a new bike chain for a adult bike or a helmet so that might catch out the second hand bike riders a bit.
1 Like #39
steve1221
Carley
So much hatrid in this thread :( unfortunately a few do spoil it for the majority there are ahole drivers as much as there a ahole cyclists. i have had eggs thrown at me out of a moving car for example, just for riding a bike. But let's get the facts about vehicle excise duty correct please.

If it was just a few then there would be no problem (they'd have removed themselves from the gene pool by now), but it's not just a few.
I counted at the lights on the way into town. 14 sets of lights, 57 cyclists of which 4 waited for the lights to change! That's not the minority, that's most of them not giving a damn.

I was also faced with 3 cyclist going the wrong way down a one way street! Something which seems to be coming more and more the norm with them...

Bikes should have something on them so they can be ID'd and the riders given the fines they deserve.

If I counted the amount of drivers that didn't give cyclists enough space when overtaking, or overtaking at a pinch point. Same argument both sides.
1 Like #40
Error440
steve1221
Carley
So much hatrid in this thread :( unfortunately a few do spoil it for the majority there are ahole drivers as much as there a ahole cyclists. i have had eggs thrown at me out of a moving car for example, just for riding a bike. But let's get the facts about vehicle excise duty correct please.

If it was just a few then there would be no problem (they'd have removed themselves from the gene pool by now), but it's not just a few.
I counted at the lights on the way into town. 14 sets of lights, 57 cyclists of which 4 waited for the lights to change! That's not the minority, that's most of them not giving a damn.

I was also faced with 3 cyclist going the wrong way down a one way street! Something which seems to be coming more and more the norm with them...

Bikes should have something on them so they can be ID'd and the riders given the fines they deserve.

Make it mandatory to take a cycling proficiency test before you can buy 1, have a database they can check like when you buy a new tv, won't affect second hand sales but it would help and can be applied to other things like buying a new bike chain for a adult bike or a helmet so that might catch out the second hand bike riders a bit.

Having a driving test to get a license doesn't seem to be doing much with all the poor drivers I see.

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