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melanie789 Avatar
7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
Before I start I should say that I am a cyclist myself.....a law abiding one.
I'm certainly not aiming this at cyclists who use the road (except perhaps those that think it's OK to cycle through red lights), this is aimed at those who think it's acceptable to use the footpath as a cycle track. We are always hearing about the authorities cracking down on motorists for speeding, using mobile phones, or eating a toffee without due care and attention, but isn't it about time they started enforcing the law on irresponsible cyclists? I have no problem with small children, because god only knows the road is a dangerous place for them. My problem is with adults who think they have a right to use the footpath, and often at considerable speed. What annoys me the most is when they cycle up behind you and ring their bells to get past!! I ignore them, and refuse to give way.
If they persist they get a piece of my mind. It's quite amazing how indignant they get, despite being completely in the wrong. I often get a stream of 4 letter abuse, but that only goes to prove that they are not only totally inconsiderate to pedestrians, but can only try and justify their actions with foul language. Signs of limited intelligence perhaps, but most likely used because they have no valid arguement to make. I really don't see why they should be treated any differently from users of other modes of transport. An on the spot fine might make them think twice about doing it again. This problem seems to be approaching epidemic levels in our towns and cities, and I know of several pedestrians that have been injured recently. Most at risk are young children who run onto the footpath and into the path of a passing bicycle, and of course the elderly. I remember a policeman telling me not to ride on the pavement when I was 5 or 6, and it's a pity they aren't more proactive today!!
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
...good rant!!!
#2
and breath........

lol
#3
"We are always hearing about the authorities cracking down on motorists for speeding, using mobile phones, or eating a toffee without due care and attention" This is very dangerous!! How many car accidents happen every day, keep cyclists out of the equation by letting them use the footpaths.

I am both a cyclist and a car driver. The reason I use a footpath to cycle is because of the above, which even you have stated. It makes no difference whether an adult or child is to use the road to cycle, its too dangerous! Having a HGV overtake you at 30mph is not very nice!

As a driver I would prefer to see cyclists using the footpaths as its very difficult to pass them safely. Cyclists ride their bikes around potholes and drains, its very often that cyclist, me included, simply drift out to avoid them....

If you refuse to move out the way on a public footpath I think you are ignorant... Especially if they are issuing a bell noise to give you warning...

My rant over!
#4
spann3rs
"We are always hearing about the authorities cracking down on motorists for speeding, using mobile phones, or eating a toffee without due care and attention" This is very dangerous!! How many car accidents happen every day, keep cyclists out of the equation by letting them use the footpaths.

I am both a cyclist and a car driver. The reason I use a footpath to cycle is because of the above, which even you have stated. It makes no difference whether an adult or child is to use the road to cycle, its too dangerous! Having a HGV overtake you at 30mph is not very nice!

As a driver I would prefer to see cyclists using the footpaths as its very difficult to pass them safely. Cyclists ride their bikes around potholes and drains, its very often that cyclist, me included, simply drift out to avoid them....

If you refuse to move out the way on a public footpath I think you are ignorant... Especially if they are issuing a bell noise to give you warning...

My rant over!


here here !!:)
banned#5
i would never cycle on a road, not that i cycle alot, i use the footpath and would encourage anyone too do so, the police still do tell youngsters not to use the pavement which i think is wrong
#6
sassie
i would never cycle on a road, not that i cycle alot, i use the footpath and would encourage anyone too do so, the police still do tell youngsters not to use the pavement which i think is wrong


This happend in January.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/clifton/Cyclist-killed-Portway-son-Bristol-Lord-Mayorarticle-594169-details/article.html
banned#7


very sad, i wouldnt let my kids cycle on a road, i see lots of families cycling with young children on the road, but sorry it aint for me, car drivers have to have road tax, insurance, mots to be on the road, cyclists have to have nothing
#8
It depends where you live I suppose. I used to cycle and in my area there's a lot of conveniently placed footpaths which can cut out a huge amount of time. Even though these aren't supposed to used by cyclists and a few even have NO CYCLING written in bold upon them, you still frequently see cyclists use them.
Personally I don't see a problem with it. Most of the cyclists are polite enough and if your on the path most of the time they'll cycle off the path and around you. Sometimes they can't cycle around you and so you may have to step to the side in order to let them pass. It's all a part of life mate, give & take.

The only part of your rant I agree with is if a cyclist is moving at excessive speeds. It's fine if there's hardly anyone about but if there are people about well.....try aiming a long stick at their spokes :thumbsup:
banned#9
you'll be glad to know that I got taught a lesson cycling on the path at speed, one of those fast track tractors pulled out of the hedge, I was listening to music so didn't hear him. I yanked the front brake went flying into the bull bar at the front, then the tractor threw me from the path into the middle of the road. I ended up with a broken collar bone, they suspected my aorta had been yanked out of my heart but I was okay apparently.

One of these, starring the stig and I hit the bull bar in front of the wheels I could so easily have been mince meat.
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2007/february/tractor.jpg
#10
spann3rs
"We are always hearing about the authorities cracking down on motorists for speeding, using mobile phones, or eating a toffee without due care and attention" This is very dangerous!! How many car accidents happen every day, keep cyclists out of the equation by letting them use the footpaths.

I am both a cyclist and a car driver. The reason I use a footpath to cycle is because of the above, which even you have stated. It makes no difference whether an adult or child is to use the road to cycle, its too dangerous! Having a HGV overtake you at 30mph is not very nice!

As a driver I would prefer to see cyclists using the footpaths as its very difficult to pass them safely. Cyclists ride their bikes around potholes and drains, its very often that cyclist, me included, simply drift out to avoid them....

If you refuse to move out the way on a public footpath I think you are ignorant... Especially if they are issuing a bell noise to give you warning...

My rant over!


You got to be kidding surely!
Are you saying that pedestrians should get out of your way on the footpath because its too dangerous on the roads ...... I cant believe it... you are making the pavements dangerous for pedestrians!
Sorry pal but if its too dangerous stay off the roads, there are plenty of cyclists still use them.
I'm a motorcyclist and just look at stats to see how dangerous that is, should i move onto the pavements as well?

unbelievable....
#11
i got hit by a car when cycling, idiotic dirver. and police told me to cycle on pavement
#12
tbh police dont care if you ride on the path and in my opion its safer so i think il carry on doing it. dont like it? live with it
banned#13
strike
i got hit by a car when cycling, idiotic dirver. and police told me to cycle on pavement


Been hit 3 times thats why I was on the pavement :thumbsup:

I even almost got hit by a police car on a cycle pavement too :w00t: I had no lights on so he thought he would try and kill me. Three police cars were actually chasing me, when I told him I was cycling 10 miles home in the pitch black he thought I was having a giraffe?? I was drunk riding too, had 3 pints and told him so.
#14
I'm afraid I still totally disagree with pavement cycling, the road is not dangerous if you abide by the rules of the road, and show consideration for other road users. Use lights and buy an inexpensive high visbility jacket/vest to make sure other road users can see you easily.
I did say in my post that children should use the pavement until they are old enough to cope with riding on the road and whatever happened to cycling proficiency testing? I have been cycling on the road since I was 11. As an adult, if you feel you don't have the competence to use the road properly, then you should walk or use buses, not cycle on the pavement endangering the lives of pedestrians. The pavement should be one place where people on foot are safe, but sadly it isn't.
#15
I just cant believe some people, I live in a cul-de-sac and to get to it is a narrow footpath, me and Julie were walking back home one evening and met a cyclist on the path, he stopped and waited for us to pass and as we went by he shouted "Thank YOU!!" as we should have been grateful for him allowing us to walk along a footpath... It looks like he is not alone...sadly...
#16
melanie789
I'm afraid I still totally disagree with pavement cycling, the road is not dangerous if you abide by the rules of the road, and show consideration for other road users. Use lights and buy an inexpensive high visbility jacket/vest to make sure other road users can see you easily.
I did say in my post that children should use the pavement until they are old enough to cope with riding on the road and whatever happened to cycling proficiency testing? I have been cycling on the road since I was 11. As an adult, if you feel you don't have the competence to use the road properly, then you should walk or use buses, [COLOR="Red"]not cycle on the pavement endangering the lives of pedestrians[/COLOR]. The pavement should be one place where people on foot are safe, but sadly it isn't.


oh come on
#17
mosskeeto
I just cant believe some people, I live in a cul-de-sac and to get to it is a narrow footpath, me and Julie were walking back home one evening and met a cyclist on the path, he stopped and waited for us to pass and as we went by he shouted "Thank YOU!!" as we should have been grateful for him allowing us to walk along a footpath... It looks like he is not alone...sadly...


This is why cyclists wont give way cause they dont get thanks for waiting.. would it have hurt to say thankyou to the chap who waiting and gave way?!!
#18
spann3rs
This is why cyclists wont give way cause they dont get thanks for waiting.. would it have hurt to say thankyou to the chap who waiting and gave way?!!


He should have thank you to me for not complaining......
#19
I did not have a helmet, and a bobby on the bike stopped me so i said give me your hat if your really passionate about your job
#20
strike
I did not have a helmet, and a bobby on the bike stopped me so i said give me your hat if your really passionate about your job


Hahaha!! Just though I have seen loadsa bobbies on their bikes riding on the pavements in the morning... One rule for one....
#21
mosskeeto
He should have thank you to me for not complaining......


Haha, your a joke!
banned#22
spann3rs
Haha, your a joke!


Agreed I would have told them to fu
#23
mosskeeto
He should have thank you to me for not complaining......


to much effot to say ta was it?
#24
My best friend got killed cycling in the road.

I know where you are coming from, but I must admit , that I think there should be cycle paths everywhere. - The problem is the paths are not wide enough in the city and suburbs to accomodate the cycle paths, and where they are in place - people park their cars along them (well, why shouldn't they park outside or near thier house!)

I do think that cyclists need to take great care when near pedestrians. They should always have right of way, but I would definately stand aside where it is safe to do so, or where there isn't any doggy doo dahs!

Gosh you could go on with this thread! I'm going to stop now
banned#25
jeeze people, aint there enough room in the world for us all, if everyone is polite and thinks of others then there aint no flippin problem
#26
strike
I did not have a helmet, and a bobby on the bike stopped me so i said give me your hat if your really passionate about your job


:thumbsup:

i think pedestrians should have right of way on the pavements as a general rule (there is nowhere else to walk otherwise and that is what pavements are for!). and there should be consideration from both pedestrians and cyclists. cyclists should as much as possible be on the roads as they have the unfair advantage of riding on a vehicle and need to go faster, which is not appropriate on a public walking path. and then there is the inevitable possibility of young children, dogs, elderly, bumbling adults, disabled etc who should feel safe walking (that's part of the reason not to jump into your car to go round the block), but i dont think there should be a strict rule about cyclists not be on pedestrian paths when it's obviously a busy road with HGVs etc.

when cyclists ride they should be extra aware and slow down when there is people, or blind spots, corners etc. because they are fast and they are quite vulnerable to accidents. it's a pity a lot of motorists are so aggressive on the road towards cyclists therefore the aggression is transfered and heaped on pedestrians who should not have to look out for vehicles on the public footpath. general rule, pedestrians have right of way. people should say thank you, when kindness is shown eg waiting, boils down to basic manners. but if you expect it becomes a thorn in the side and you could get resentful when people generally aren't on the lookout for acts of kindness they are taken aback or just stunned or just woke up LOL.

i walk, cycle and ride at the back of a motorbike as well as use public transport. i cycled in central london to uni so i do know the central london traffic and it can be a bit scary (esp at big roundabouts like the old trafalgar square minus traffic lights!) so you have no choice but to keep your wits about you and pray you reach the other end safely. it is a hyper aware mode, which not many people (especially pedestrians because it is lulling to bumble along the path and walk at whatever speed you like) will have and it is normal to get annoyed when people are 'slower' to react eg say thank you.

when i walk, i encounter young guys in mopeds flaking round the corner on the pedestrian paths (because as kids then teens they were allowed to ride their bicycles on the footpath, and it's normal - but ignorant - to think mopeds are the same ... which i think is totally unacceptable but their parents do not seem to know about this or deny it is even wrong - then i think that qualifies for the 'stupid' award.

these days i walk or go on the bus more and there is a different mode you have to be. am getting bike this friday to cycle to work so that's another thing to look 'forward' to. let's see, by the time the month is up if i am still sane.

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