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Repaired some cracks in the plaster in a bedroom with polyfilla sanded down ,,Covered with a couple of coats of emulsion .Still very noticeable ..Help to repair and improve finish Read More
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7m, 1w agoPosted 7 months, 1 week ago
Repaired some cracks in the plaster in a bedroom with polyfilla sanded down ,,Covered with a couple of coats of emulsion .Still very noticeable ..Help to repair and improve finish
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7m, 1w agoPosted 7 months, 1 week ago
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2 Likes #1
Is it that you can still see the plaster, or that you can still see the cracks? If it's that you can see the plaster, try doing a few more coats, leaving plenty of time (several hours) between coats to give it time to dry.
7 Likes #2
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.

Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
#3
get some better thicker emulsion
4 Likes #4
One of the best ways to give a better finish to walls with a poor surface is lining paper . I buy mine from Wickes , the quad roll's . I'm a decorator and go through loads of rolls on both ceilings and walls . For a better job ,you cross line the rolls .Dont go from top to bottom ...............it's from left to right [ or right to left for that matter] and butt join . Glue size the walls prior to starting leaving the size overnight to dry .Once dry acouple of coats of emulsion and you'll see the difference.

just an update after reading the above comments : If there cracks in the walls ,cut them out first , the filler wont stick very good to a dry surface , so use one of those cheap water sprays to wet the crack and then use a filler .Another good trick is to mix left over emulsion to the powdered filler instead of water . It bonds better but still sands smooth.

Edited By: ricko on Dec 09, 2016 23:38
1 Like #5
Get some gyproc easi-fill, don't worry if you fill too proud as this stuff sands down really easily. Use some fine grit sandpaper and pay attention to the edges of where you are filling.
2 Likes #6
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
7 Likes #7
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
4 Likes #9
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
1 Like #10

Artex was more fun to apply than to look at, wasn't it? :D
4 Likes #11
summerof76
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
Somethings spread easily ;)
#12
Preparation, preparation, preparation
Remove existing bodge job and remove any loose material. Using course sanding block/paper key down the surrounding paintwork/edges of area to be filled.
With a good mixture refill to below the level and allow to dry completely then when dry score with sharp knife and use thinner mixture to go slightly over level and use a wet sponge to bring the level down to near flat and leave to dry then with fine sandblock/paper smooth to level finish. The filler must be left to dry completely to ensure minimal shrinkage.
Then repaint

Edited By: philphil61 on Dec 10, 2016 00:26
2 Likes #13
philphil61
summerof76
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
Somethings spread easily ;)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9hx6te3N41qbxww9.gif
#14
ziggy64

Repaired some cracks in the plaster in a bedroom with polyfilla sanded down ,,Covered with a couple of coats of emulsion .Still very noticeable ..Help to repair and improve finish
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[quote=beergut1969]Get some gyproc easi-fill, don't worry if you fill too proud as this stuff sands down really easily. Use some fine grit sandpaper and pay attention to the edges of where you are filling.

Speaking from experience... this is the best advice on here.
Very easy to sand & ideal for cracks.
Polyfilla or other premade fillers are very poor to use.
Wickes do the Easifill btw.
5 Likes #15
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .

As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
2 Likes #16
philphil61
summerof76
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
Somethings spread easily ;)
Like margarine X)
2 Likes #17
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .

As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
3 Likes #18
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
#19
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
1 Like #20
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
#21
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
1 Like #22
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
#23
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
4 Likes #24
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
I'm stuck here hundreds of miles from family with an autistic kid who is lovely but lacks any empathy . My husband and soulmate died suddenly two years ago and left me with no one who gets the jokes anymore . Nice to find people on your wavelength
4 Likes #25
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
I'm stuck here hundreds of miles from family with an autistic kid who is lovely but lacks any empathy . My husband and soulmate died suddenly two years ago and left me with no one who gets the jokes anymore . Nice to find people on your wavelength
I get most of your humour

Sadly, as you've probably guessed (because you sound intelligent enough) people are afraid to say the wrong thing

And like me, being the old gentleman I am would hate to know I upset you accidently

ps Just to add - did my Sir Galahad at my local Tesco's earlier - a woman of similar age asked if I could reach the milk at the back of the shelf. I tried then I looked at her again and I'm sure she was taller than me but still I used my noggin looked around and saw one of those steps on wheels so I grabbed it and did the duty (got the milk) and she turned and said "I could of done that"

Just no pleasing some

Edited By: philphil61 on Dec 10, 2016 02:33
#26
I'd talk with the Plaster Casters as those chicks are pretty handy in that department:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Plaster_Caster
3 Likes #27
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
I'm stuck here hundreds of miles from family with an autistic kid who is lovely but lacks any empathy . My husband and soulmate died suddenly two years ago and left me with no one who gets the jokes anymore . Nice to find people on your wavelength
Life is tough at times and I hope being on misc helps you unwind after a long day <3 There is always someone on misc to chat with and a lot of good people too :)
3 Likes #28
philphil61
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
I'm stuck here hundreds of miles from family with an autistic kid who is lovely but lacks any empathy . My husband and soulmate died suddenly two years ago and left me with no one who gets the jokes anymore . Nice to find people on your wavelength
I get most of your humour
Sadly, as you've probably guessed (because you sound intelligent enough) people are afraid to say the wrong thing
And like me, being the old gentleman I am would hate to know I upset you accidently
ps Just to add - did my Sir Galahad at my local Tesco's earlier - a woman of similar age asked if I could reach the milk at the back of the shelf. I tried then I looked at her again and I'm sure she was taller than me but still I used my noggin looked around and saw one of those steps on wheels so I grabbed it and did the duty (got the milk) and she turned and said "I could of done that"
Just no pleasing some
Ungrateful bint . Hope her milk curdles .
2 Likes #29
philphil61
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
summerof76
psychobitchfromhell
The no diy solutions
1. Put a picture up over the area
2. Put a wardrobe in front of it
3. Get a man in to do it for you
4. Move house .
As a sucker for a project I would ignore my own advice and get stuck in
My crack is on the ceiling so cover it with a mirror :)
You are either resourceful or dangerously mad . Either of which seems fine by me . The world needs a little diversity
My water tank was leaking and made a small mess of the ceiling :( Need to fix it up and thought this page could help, but it got a bit out of hand X)
A reasonable explanation but I much prefer the idea of you being mad bad and dangerous to know
Just ask anyone on misc and they will let you know what i'm like X)
I love misc . My spiritual home
It is my home and everyone is welcome to chat :)
I'm stuck here hundreds of miles from family with an autistic kid who is lovely but lacks any empathy . My husband and soulmate died suddenly two years ago and left me with no one who gets the jokes anymore . Nice to find people on your wavelength
I get most of your humour
Sadly, as you've probably guessed (because you sound intelligent enough) people are afraid to say the wrong thing
And like me, being the old gentleman I am would hate to know I upset you accidently
ps Just to add - did my Sir Galahad at my local Tesco's earlier - a woman of similar age asked if I could reach the milk at the back of the shelf. I tried then I looked at her again and I'm sure she was taller than me but still I used my noggin looked around and saw one of those steps on wheels so I grabbed it and did the duty (got the milk) and she turned and said "I could of done that"
Just no pleasing some
you should have put the milk back and flipped the step thing :{
#30
Use undercoat first then emulsion
1 Like #31
philphil61
summerof76
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
Somethings spread easily ;)
Like your legs
#32
OP, I've had this recently and after several diy fixes it turned out that the underlying problem was that the plaster had 'blown', i.e., come away from the brickwork. The plasterer demonstrated by knocking various parts of the wall and the sound definitely changed around that section. Also, when pressed, there was some movement. To solve the problem, the plasterer removed that section of the wall and bonded out the base again before skimming. It took 2 x half days but it is perfect now it's painted. It was in a prominent part of the wall and I wanted a thorough fix, as opposed to a temp one. Hope this helps.
#33
I would get the plasterer back out to fix it, i had the same issue in my hallway, although it was a whole wall going up the stairs from the front door and looked appalling, however that took months for the plasterer to come back and fix because he forgot.. anyway, he did what they said about, cut it out and then reskimmed the whole wall. Another, much better plasterer did our front room and 1 tiny bit had blown by the tv, he came and fixed that the next day. Worth getting the plasterer back in as most of them are willing to fix it free of charge :)
2 Likes #34
summerof76
CookinBat
summerof76
CookinBat
Fine cracks can be really difficult to hide. Trick is to rake the crack out, make it slightly wider then fill it with a fine
filler, use a sanding block not your hand to sand it right back, don't leave filler slightly proud.
Alternatively use decorators calk as it's quite easy to squeeze into the fine gap using a pallet knife. Usually shrinks a bit on drying tho.
I will try this as I have the same problem as ziggy :)
I've heard about your fine crack. :|X)
Word spreads around X)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll302/BALONEY_BOLOGNA2008/shocked.gif
#35
Filler paint
1 Like #36
Ha the bodge of lining paper and painting on top. Nice it is not. Walls should be painted or papered, not both unless it's a blown vinyl which is old hat these days. Poly filler is not so good. There are a few good tips above. Gyproc gap filler is good far better than polyfiller. Sanding blocks are good. I had two small areas where for some reason the paint kept cracking above a door. don't know why and put PVA on it and it still crackled but I ended up chipping the filler away. The wall as dry lined. I sealed the plasterboard with an oil based undercoat. I used gyproc gap filler and emulsions over. no problems since. Emulsion paint doesn't stick to an oil based undercoat unless you seal it first.


Edited By: Smartguy1 on Dec 10, 2016 20:13

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