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A man who defended his home from an intruder has been told he could face prosecution. When the intruder entered David Youden's home in Queen's Park Road, Brighton, uninvited in the early hours of… Read More
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6y, 3m agoPosted 6 years, 3 months ago
A man who defended his home from an intruder has been told he could face prosecution.

When the intruder entered David Youden's home in Queen's Park Road, Brighton, uninvited in the early hours of New Year's Day the resident fought him off.

Mr Youden, 54, pushed the man out of his flat and sat on him until the police arrived.

But now prosecutors have decided they will take no action against him.

Instead Mr Youden has been warned by police officers dealing with the case that he could face assault charges.

Mr Youden, who suffers from post traumatic stress disorder having been stabbed in the chest by an intruder at his home in 1993, said he was astonished that he could go on trial.
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6y, 3m agoPosted 6 years, 3 months ago
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#1
the link

Edited By: scousekop on Feb 03, 2011 18:57
#2
His own fault for owning up, i have no sympathy whatsoever!
[mod]#3
Ditto. Reasonable and proportionate force was used (if the article was accurate) which was the correct thing to do when dealing with an intruder.

Edited By: magicjay1986 on Feb 03, 2011 19:00
#4
I bet that very short piece is missing a heck of alot of vital information leading to the possiblility of the victim being charged!
#5
cdm22
I bet that very short piece is missing a heck of alot of vital information leading to the possiblility of the victim being charged!


THIS^^^^^
1 Like #6
If you put your hands on someone, you "could" face assault charges is what the Police are saying.
Pretty reasonable statement to make.
#7
OP - What the hell is your Avatar suppose to be..... :|
1 Like #9
cw9652
OP - What the hell is your Avatar suppose to be..... :|


Looks like a PSN card
3 Likes #10
I would have killed the intruder and buried him in the neighbours garden (_;)
#11
cdm22
I bet that very short piece is missing a heck of alot of vital information leading to the possiblility of the victim being charged!


Agree. No way that could be the whole story.
1 Like #12
magicjay1986
Ditto. Reasonable and proportionate force was used (if the article was accurate) which was the correct thing to do when dealing with an intruder.

thesaint
If you put your hands on someone, you "could" face assault charges is what the Police are saying.
Pretty reasonable statement to make.


Which is why he should have made sure he "slipped on the floor and broke his neck in the scuffle officer".........
[mod]#13
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
#14
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.


Just the thought of it even being an issue winds me up though.
2 Likes #15
Although we don't know all the details I do believe UK needs to revamp the existing laws regarding self defense.
#16
I blame personal injury lawyers.
#17
another example




Edited By: antony4462 on Feb 03, 2011 21:23
banned#18
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"
suspended 2 Likes #19
An Englishman's home is his castle
#20
This country is a joke
#21
RFC
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"

WRONG!
#22
Starr
An Englishman's home is his castle

no wonder, the intruder came to visit the castle as historic place
1 Like #23
Good old English justice. Rather than protect the innocent, we have to protect and pamper the guilty. This country is a joke. Why has it come to this, that those that break the law are treated better than those that they prey on. If this guy had entered my house I would have done more than just sit on him. Any injuries he incurred must have happened when he slipped on the pavement outside running away..... honest guv.
1 Like #24
next time shall he leave the door open and tell him where everything is (_;)oO

Edited By: pinky89 on Feb 04, 2011 08:32
#25
pinky89
next time shall he leave the door open and tell him where everything is (_;)oO


that was the next time, he was stabbed the last time.............can you blame him for being worried after that happened to him
1 Like #26
choc1969
I would have killed the intruder and buried him in the neighbours garden (_;)


you cant, ive got no more room.



btw, can I have my chainsaw back please?
banned#27
trog0
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Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"
WRONG!
RIGHT

RIGHT

RIGHT

AND RIGHT AGAIN CASE CLOSED
#28
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trog0
RFC
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"
WRONG!
RIGHTRIGHTRIGHTAND RIGHT AGAIN CASE CLOSED

WRONG
WRONG
WRONG
WRONG

As you can see each case is judged on it's own merit. The police in the UK and the US have a duty to investigate all intentional injuries whether it be to a victim or criminal. These are then forwarded to the cps or the district attorneys office for a decision of whether or how to bring it to trial. Not all of the cases will bring forth charges but they will be investigated. I agree we go soft on criminals here but if we allow vigilante justice to take place freely then we will have anarchy on the streets.
#29
trog0
RFC
trog0
RFC
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"
WRONG!
RIGHTRIGHTRIGHTAND RIGHT AGAIN CASE CLOSED


WRONG
WRONG
WRONG
WRONG

As you can see each case is judged on it's own merit. The police in the UK and the US have a duty to investigate all intentional injuries whether it be to a victim or criminal. These are then forwarded to the cps or the district attorneys office for a decision of whether or how to bring it to trial. Not all of the cases will bring forth charges but they will be investigated. I agree we go soft on criminals here but if we allow vigilante justice to take place freely then we will have anarchy on the streets.


trog by nature then i see

its funny how everyone misses the key point, he was stabbed last time..........bunch of fwits
banned#30
trog0
RFC
trog0
RFC
Syzable
Doesn't matter what the Police warn him with.........they have no power to sentence him and the likely outcome is the judge/magistrate will throw it out and we can chalk up some more money wasted on nonsense.
police shoud,nt be warning him at all,in the u.s he could have shot him and the police would have congratulated him "GOD BLESS AMERICA"
WRONG!
RIGHTRIGHTRIGHTAND RIGHT AGAIN CASE CLOSED
WRONGWRONGWRONGWRONGAs you can see each case is judged on it's own merit. The police in the UK and the US have a duty to investigate all intentional injuries whether it be to a victim or criminal. These are then forwarded to the cps or the district attorneys office for a decision of whether or how to bring it to trial. Not all of the cases will bring forth charges but they will be investigated. I agree we go soft on criminals here but if we allow vigilante justice to take place freely then we will have anarchy on the streets.

hey trog0 you trying shooting someone over here,i think you are missing my point somewhat!
#31
RFC
hey trog0 you trying shooting someone over here,i think you are missing my point somewhat!

No, not missing your point at all you stated the american police would congratulate him I disagreed pointing out a case, you then countered with four different cases and I then countered that with another four cases. We could go on forever countering each other but it still wouldn't change the fact that each case is and should be investigated on it's own merit and a decision made only when all the facts are in. And as for me shooting someone well there have been times I have wanted to, but living in the UK where we have a "sensible gun policy" I don't keep a gun in the house.


Alfonse
trog by nature then i seeits funny how everyone misses the key point, he was stabbed last time..........bunch of fwits
What personal insults now (_;)
He was stabbed in 1993 that's nearly twenty years ago. I was beaten up by a girl thirty years ago doesn't mean I have the right to hit every girl that calls me a "twit". Yes he has the right to use reasonable force on an intruder as set down in guidlines by the CPS here. But as I said earlier the incident will need investigating to determine if reasonable force was used.

I hope that when the investigation is closed Mr Youden is not charged as his actions are similar to those which I would do albeit i would wait for the intruder to fully enter my property and then sit on him (I'm a big lad so he wouldn't be going anywhere) before ringing the police.
banned#32
trog0
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hey trog0 you trying shooting someone over here,i think you are missing my point somewhat!
No, not missing your point at all you stated the american police would congratulate him I disagreed pointing out a case, you then countered with four different cases and I then countered that with another four cases. We could go on forever countering each other but it still wouldn't change the fact that each case is and should be investigated on it's own merit and a decision made only when all the facts are in. And as for me shooting someone well there have been times I have wanted to, but living in the UK where we have a "sensible gun policy" I don't keep a gun in the house.
Alfonse
trog by nature then i seeits funny how everyone misses the key point, he was stabbed last time..........bunch of fwits
What personal insults now (_;) He was stabbed in 1993 that's nearly twenty years ago. I was beaten up by a girl thirty years ago doesn't mean I have the right to hit every girl that calls me a "twit". Yes he has the right to use reasonable force on an intruder as set down in guidlines by the CPS here. But as I said earlier the incident will need investigating to determine if reasonable force was used.I hope that when the investigation is closed Mr Youden is not charged as his actions are similar to those which I would do albeit i would wait for the intruder to fully enter my property and then sit on him (I'm a big lad so he wouldn't be going anywhere) before ringing the police.

trog0 me ole son,if someone enters your property ,the property where your wife and kids sleep...they deserve all they get,and that includes shooting if you can gety away with it,they deserve it because they are trying to steal from or harm an innocent family...
seriously you can blab all day but yuou will never change my mind.

btw are you a burglar or something or never been the victim of crime?
#33
RFC
trog0
RFC
hey trog0 you trying shooting someone over here,i think you are missing my point somewhat!
No, not missing your point at all you stated the american police would congratulate him I disagreed pointing out a case, you then countered with four different cases and I then countered that with another four cases. We could go on forever countering each other but it still wouldn't change the fact that each case is and should be investigated on it's own merit and a decision made only when all the facts are in. And as for me shooting someone well there have been times I have wanted to, but living in the UK where we have a "sensible gun policy" I don't keep a gun in the house.
Alfonse
trog by nature then i seeits funny how everyone misses the key point, he was stabbed last time..........bunch of fwits
What personal insults now (_;) He was stabbed in 1993 that's nearly twenty years ago. I was beaten up by a girl thirty years ago doesn't mean I have the right to hit every girl that calls me a "twit". Yes he has the right to use reasonable force on an intruder as set down in guidlines by the CPS here. But as I said earlier the incident will need investigating to determine if reasonable force was used.I hope that when the investigation is closed Mr Youden is not charged as his actions are similar to those which I would do albeit i would wait for the intruder to fully enter my property and then sit on him (I'm a big lad so he wouldn't be going anywhere) before ringing the police.
trog0 me ole son,if someone enters your property ,the property where your wife and kids sleep...they deserve all they get,and that includes shooting if you can gety away with it,they deserve it because they are trying to steal from or harm an innocent family...seriously you can blab all day but yuou will never change my mind.btw are you a burglar or something or never been the victim of crime?

Lol a burglar me I wouldn't fit through the windows. As for being a victim of crime I'm not the victim sort. I have however had crimes commited against me and mine and know from experience that revenge doesn't solve anything. As you say I won't change your mind and, everybody is entitled to an opinion so we will have to agree to disagree. ;)

Edited By: trog0 on Feb 06, 2011 21:52

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