Diamonds? - HotUKDeals
We use cookie files to improve site functionality and personalisation. By continuing to use HUKD, you accept our cookie and privacy policy.
Get the HUKD app free at Google Play

Search Error

An error occurred when searching, please try again!

Login / Sign UpSubmit

Diamonds?

FonZe Avatar
1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
Im looking to get a diamond for a ring, dont really want to purchase a pre made ring so was thinking of getting a diamons and having it set ina ring...

So does Any one know anything about diamonds? where to get one and quality etc etc?

Any help will do

cheers
FonZe Avatar
1d, 1m agoPosted 1 decade, 1 month ago
Options

All Comments

(43) Jump to unreadPost a comment
Comments/page:
Page:
#1
Awww, are you thinking of proposing?
Lucky girl if your having the ring made for her :)
There is diamonds for sale on ebay, probably not the best quality, but, theres also alot of jewellery shops on there that are real as in you can walk into them - im sure they could advise, ive got a lovely diamond white gold necklace that i bought from ebay - from a real shop :)
#2
Joshanna
Awww, are you thinking of proposing?
Lucky girl if your having the ring made for her :)
There is diamonds for sale on ebay, probably not the best quality, but, theres also alot of jewellery shops on there that are real as in you can walk into them - im sure they could advise, ive got a lovely diamond white gold necklace that i bought from ebay - from a real shop :)


Thinking about it yes, the original plan was to ge somthing from Tiffanys in New York, but i fancy getting her somthing even more diffrent.

thanks for the info...maybe some one else has a few suggestions!?
#3
Awww good luck, hope it all goes well, and personally, if someone were to make my engagment ring there self id be really impressed :)
#4
Joshanna
Awww good luck, hope it all goes well, and personally, if someone were to make my engagment ring there self id be really impressed :)


Cheers for that, i have a few things in the pipe line, a mate of a mate is Jew who is a jewellery dealer. so he is looking out for somthing nice for me.

some one else must know somthing about this sort of stuff though!?
#5
Well, i guess, pop into your local jewellers, theyll be able to source and make it for you :)
Possibly, but im not sure, the big names will do it or you too :)
Ill leave it to someone else now though :)
[admin]#6
I don't know anyone off-hand but you can definitely have this kind of thing done. Look for an independent jeweller (i.e. not part of a big chain) and they should be able to do whatever you want. Many independent jewellers will make the jewellery themselves so doing something custom is no problem for them. Just start asking around and someone will point you straight pretty quick.
#7
Oooooh, actually, a little while ago, i found someone on ebay, i needed some of my white gold rings altering (jewellers here were saying £30 a ring!) i sent them to him, he got and did them and sent them back the same day!)
Hes also an independant jeweller, i can give you his details if i can find them if you like, he can make anything :)
#8
cheers for the replys ppl, its not the making of the ring par say. its getting hold of a good diamond and a good price. and knowing what to look for.
#9
ok i think i have found out a little more, but does any one knwo about vvs and vs2 raitings ect?
#10
My fiance bought my diamond ring from amazon.com - although it's in the states the system is the same and the prices are very competitive, especially with the exchange rate as it is now.

You can choose your own diamond there based on all the properties, you see the exact breakdown of what you're getting for your money. You can then choose the custom ring setting, and they will put your diamond into it.

You get a full certificate, and my fiance paid about £1000 for my diamond from amazon.com and it's insured & valued by the jeweller here for £3500. We bought about 4 months ago and it is an outstanding quality ring for the price paid.

The quality of diamonds they have available is about as high as your budget really and they had hundreds of settings to choose from.
#11
There are 6 main categories of diamond btw ( we did a lot of search on this ) for quality. (Clarity)

F - Flawless
IF - Internally Flawless
VVS1 / VVS2 - slightly included, may have very tiny, almost indiscernable visible inclusions at 10x magnificaton.
VS1/VS2 - minute inclusions visible at 10x magnification
SI1 / SI2 - slightly included, larger inclusions visible at 10x magnificaton.
I1 / 2 / 3 - large inclusions visible at 10x magnification, that may affect the brilliance and look of the diamond to the naked eye.

The lower the number the better the grade, ie VVS1 is better than VVS2 but only at a financial and high magnification level really, it's not going to make a big difference to the naked eye... SI and I may make differences to the naked eye and should try something better.

Don't forget that colour is also vitally important, as well of course as carat and the cut of the diamond (shape) can affect financial value.
#12
cheers for the Info CWhatley, no i know its all down to personal taste but any chance you could sugest somthing at around teh same price you paid for yours? just to give me an idea of what is what! if you dont mind that is.

cheers :thumbsup:
#13
Just noticed we are both in cardiff as well CWhatley!! :thumbsup:
#14
I personally went for a lower carat, 0.5 with a good cut and clarity and had it set with 2 sapphires, my birth stone. I was lucky in that.. I have a fiance who understood that there was no way he could ever choose a ring I'd like, because I'm very fussy about jewellery. So he proposed, and we chose the ring together, and I got exactly what I wanted :giggle:

For roughly $1200-1400 from the Amazon.com search I found these diamonds

Stone shape: Round
Carat Weight: 0.55
Cut: Very Good
Color: G
Clarity: VS2

Or you could go for a higher carat, but sacrifice some cut
Diamond Specifications

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.7 carats
Cut: Good
Color: H
Clarity: VS2

The highest carat I could find for about $1400 would be this one

Diamond Specifications

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.85 carats
Cut: Fair
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

But you do sacrifice in other ways.

The cheapest 1 carat diamond was $2000 and was this

Stone shape: Radiant
Carat Weight: 1.0
Cut: Very Good
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

Amazon's most expensive diamond, at the moment is $118,170.00 :shock:
and for that you would get

Stone shape: Round
Carat Weight: 3.62 carats
Cut: Ideal
Color: F
Clarity: IF

I think 0.5 is an ideal carat for most women, but it depends if she's a really large bling bling person... Princess seems to be the best price shape in general and still looks good (if you ask me).

Remember that shops like amazon.com that sell individual diamonds only have one of each, and once it's gone, it's gone. They list thousands of diamonds, each with very slight differences which make the price vary.
#15
The settings by the way that Amazon sell range from $100 to $700 and are gold, white gold, platinum.. you can also have side stones like I did (with white gold, 18k).

If you shop around, I think you will find that the prices are almost half in the states than they are here, that's what I found when researching anyway.

Just make sure you get it valued by a jeweller approved by your insurance company and added to personal home insurance because it's not something you want stolen!
#16
Price Comparisons:

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.7 carats
Cut: Good
Color: H
Clarity: VS2

Amazon.com $1300 + setting (£682)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £1,767.59 in very simple 18ct gold setting.

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.85 carats
Cut: Fair
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

Amazon.com - $1400 + setting (£735)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £1,860.81 in very simple 18ct gold setting


Stone shape: Radiant
Carat Weight: 1.0
Cut: Very Good
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

Amazon.com - $2000 + setting (£1,050)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £3,712.35 :shock:

So you see what I mean about price differences.

Hope this has all helped anyway :thumbsup:
#17
I think princess cut is the way :)
I saved up and boght myself a stunning princess cut ring (made to look larger as its 4 small squares placed together to form a larger square)
And, it has round brilliant cut diamonds set in the channels.
Stunning ring and 0.33 of a carat, and its also white gold - id have been happy if it was my engagment ring :)
#18
CWhatley
Price Comparisons:

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.7 carats
Cut: Good
Color: H
Clarity: VS2

Amazon.com $1300 + setting (£682)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £1,767.59 in very simple 18ct gold setting.

Stone shape: Princess
Carat Weight: 0.85 carats
Cut: Fair
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

Amazon.com - $1400 + setting (£735)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £1,860.81 in very simple 18ct gold setting


Stone shape: Radiant
Carat Weight: 1.0
Cut: Very Good
Color: J
Clarity: VS1

Amazon.com - $2000 + setting (£1,050)
Marlow Certified Diamonds (UK) - £3,712.35 :shock:

So you see what I mean about price differences.

Hope this has all helped anyway :thumbsup:


you are a legend!!!

i will have a gander on amazon and see what i can come up with.

much apreciated all the help.

one more thing, im going to new york in 2 weeks. do you think i would be able to find somthing when im there or just use amazon?

cheers
#19
I know this may be useless, but when in Barbados for the last few years, you could get diamonds from a place called "Diamonds International" for a bargain price. I think a 2ct diamond ring was £1k
#20
ChrisUK
I know this may be useless, but when in Barbados for the last few years, you could get diamonds from a place called "Diamonds International" for a bargain price. I think a 2ct diamond ring was £1k


was in barbados last year!!! i so didnt think :(

must be able to get the same sort of thng when im in newyork though!!??
#21
I'd recommend a place called diamondgeezer.

I bought my wifes engagement ring from there about 3 years ago, and their pricing was less than half the retail prices. We also bought our platimum wedding rings from there, which were again, perfect. Their service is second to none, and offer a full money back guarantee if you're not satisfied. You can also haggle a bit with them to knock a few more pounds off the price... You get to pick your stone (they send pictures), pick the ring design (all made for you), and importantly all the stones are fully certified - they even provide a valuation for you.

Whilst there are some good bargains to be found from US websites, there's a lot to be said for actually seeing the diamond before you buy. Also do bear in mind that having a ring shipped from the US will incur some sizable taxes (I looked at this too, but the savings didn't outweigh the risk). If you're off to New York soon, I'd say that you'd be wise to shop out there and find a diamond you like as the prices are keen, especially with the exchange rates as they are. Of course, get the missus to wear the ring and don't declare the customs charge.

In terms of diamond quality, I'd say colour and clartity are paramount. I wouldn't go below a VS2 (which shouldnt have any visible inclusions to the eye), and colour - nothing less than F. The 2 diamonds I bought for the wife were a round brilliant 0.57 VVS2 E (from diamondgeezer), and a marquee cut 0.41 VS2 E from Antwerp (I was on a weekend break and got a real bargain). Both have a very good cut, which helps with the blinginess :)

At the end of the day, diamond buying is very subjective - as long as it isn't dull and has an 'across the room sparkle' and the missus loves it, then it's the right one. I did buy blind from diamondgeezer, but he lived up to his word and since then I've recommended many happy punters (I'm unfortunately not on commission)...

If you want to use them, feel free to mention my name 'Sachin' and ask for one of the owners, either Clive or his son, Luke.

Good luck and happy buying.
Sach
#22
Sach
I'd recommend a place called diamondgeezer.

I bought my wifes engagement ring from there about 3 years ago, and their pricing was less than half the retail prices. We also bought our platimum wedding rings from there, which were again, perfect. Their service is second to none, and offer a full money back guarantee if you're not satisfied. You can also haggle a bit with them to knock a few more pounds off the price... You get to pick your stone (they send pictures), pick the ring design (all made for you), and importantly all the stones are fully certified - they even provide a valuation for you.

Whilst there are some good bargains to be found from US websites, there's a lot to be said for actually seeing the diamond before you buy. Also do bear in mind that having a ring shipped from the US will incur some sizable taxes (I looked at this too, but the savings didn't outweigh the risk). If you're off to New York soon, I'd say that you'd be wise to shop out there and find a diamond you like as the prices are keen, especially with the exchange rates as they are. Of course, get the missus to wear the ring and don't declare the customs charge.

In terms of diamond quality, I'd say colour and clartity are paramount. I wouldn't go below a VS2 (which shouldnt have any visible inclusions to the eye), and colour - nothing less than F. The 2 diamonds I bought for the wife were a round brilliant 0.57 VVS2 E (from diamondgeezer), and a marquee cut 0.41 VS2 E from Antwerp (I was on a weekend break and got a real bargain). Both have a very good cut, which helps with the blinginess :)

At the end of the day, diamond buying is very subjective - as long as it isn't dull and has an 'across the room sparkle' and the missus loves it, then it's the right one. I did buy blind from diamondgeezer, but he lived up to his word and since then I've recommended many happy punters (I'm unfortunately not on commission)...

If you want to use them, feel free to mention my name 'Sachin' and ask for one of the owners, either Clive or his son, Luke.

Good luck and happy buying.
Sach


this diamond hunting is proving so tuff :-( so much to choose from.
#23
FonZe
this diamond hunting is proving so tuff :-( so much to choose from.


I can give you a hand if you like from a womans point of view :thumbsup:
#24
Joshanna
I can give you a hand if you like from a womans point of view :thumbsup:



nice one have a gander at that dimond geezer website and see what diamond you can find for about 1k...thats a start i guess :thumbsup:
#25
Sach
I'd recommend a place called diamondgeezer.

I bought my wifes engagement ring from there about 3 years ago, and their pricing was less than half the retail prices. We also bought our platimum wedding rings from there, which were again, perfect. Their service is second to none, and offer a full money back guarantee if you're not satisfied. You can also haggle a bit with them to knock a few more pounds off the price... You get to pick your stone (they send pictures), pick the ring design (all made for you), and importantly all the stones are fully certified - they even provide a valuation for you.

Whilst there are some good bargains to be found from US websites, there's a lot to be said for actually seeing the diamond before you buy. Also do bear in mind that having a ring shipped from the US will incur some sizable taxes (I looked at this too, but the savings didn't outweigh the risk). If you're off to New York soon, I'd say that you'd be wise to shop out there and find a diamond you like as the prices are keen, especially with the exchange rates as they are. Of course, get the missus to wear the ring and don't declare the customs charge.

In terms of diamond quality, I'd say colour and clartity are paramount. I wouldn't go below a VS2 (which shouldnt have any visible inclusions to the eye), and colour - nothing less than F. The 2 diamonds I bought for the wife were a round brilliant 0.57 VVS2 E (from diamondgeezer), and a marquee cut 0.41 VS2 E from Antwerp (I was on a weekend break and got a real bargain). Both have a very good cut, which helps with the blinginess :)

At the end of the day, diamond buying is very subjective - as long as it isn't dull and has an 'across the room sparkle' and the missus loves it, then it's the right one. I did buy blind from diamondgeezer, but he lived up to his word and since then I've recommended many happy punters (I'm unfortunately not on commission)...

If you want to use them, feel free to mention my name 'Sachin' and ask for one of the owners, either Clive or his son, Luke.

Good luck and happy buying.
Sach



Sach, thanks for or the info...as im new to this diamond hunting lol..what would you sugest for about 1k?
#26
FonZe
nice one have a gander at that dimond geezer website and see what diamond you can find for about 1k...thats a start i guess :thumbsup:


Ok, so, what sort of cut do you want?
What about heart cut?
I was going to look at princess cut as its modern, but, alot of engagment rings are now princess cut and i thought you might want something differend?

You can always pm me, i dont mind helping :thumbsup:
#27
Listed below are the biggest FLAWLESS stones you can get for under £1,000 :)

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999princess.html - Number 91.

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999brilliant.html - Number 88

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999emerald.html Numbers 12 & 15

Ive just looked through them all, the above are the only flawless ones in the collection for under £999.
There is a few others, with maybe 1 or 2 inclusions, but i thought i would only highlight the best :)
#28
Joshanna
Listed below are the biggest FLAWLESS stones you can get for under £1,000 :)

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999princess.html - Number 91.

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999brilliant.html - Number 88

http://www.diamondgeezer.com/diamonds/999emerald.html Numbers 12 & 15

Ive just looked through them all, the above are the only flawless ones in the collection for under £999.
There is a few others, with maybe 1 or 2 inclusions, but i thought i would only highlight the best :)


cheers for the help again :) just spoke to a lovely lady at diamond geezer who is going to send some details. she thinks maybe a princess cut or a brilliant cut is the way forward :thumbsup:
#29
Why dont you get something more unusual?
Marquise cuts is a stunning cut, really unusual, but also contempary, i own a marquise cut ring, and the amount of comments i got :thumbsup:

Break the mold a little, get her something unusual, id say princess/brilliant are the safest bet - but, i vote go for something unusual since your doing it yourself!
#30
FonZe
Sach, thanks for or the info...as im new to this diamond hunting lol..what would you sugest for about 1k?


Hi Fonze

For £1k, I'd strongly suggest you take the missus on a weekend to Antwerp and visit the diamond quarter, and then surprise her with a visit to some diamond shops. I'll be totally honest and tell you what I managed to get my wife for our 1st wedding anniversary...(mine was bought from a place called 'Hearts and Arrows'). The spec was:

Size: 0.41 Marquise cut (but this is a flatter stone, and looks much bigger as it has a greater surface area than normal round brilliant cuts)
Clarity: VS2 (no visible inclusions without magnification)
Cut: Very good
Fully Certified
Setting: Tiffany style, 18ct white gold, 6 prong (6 is generally required for the Marquise stone)
Price: ~£700 (well 1000 euros, but close enough)

Do bear in mind that you will need to not declare the ring through customs to avoid paying taxes, but I don't think this is a big issue - it's not like you're smuggling diamonds to sell on for a profit in the UK, just get the missus to wear it!

If you wanted a similar ring to myself, why not try and get diamondgeezer to price match what I bought - that way you'd get a mega bargain, without the cost of the trip to Antwerp (which I'd highly recommend as it's a cool city!).

To be honest, I really think you'll struggle to get a decent sized round cut for £1k, at least without compromising colour, clarity or cut.

I hope this helps your decision.

Cheers
Sach
#31
What happened to the good old days when a lady would be happy to wear a chunk of coal on her finger - Just kidding, i'm a sucker for romance :)
#32
MBeeching
What happened to the good old days when a lady would be happy to wear a chunk of coal on her finger - Just kidding, i'm a sucker for romance :)


Haha, id wear a lump of coal for the right person.
Ok, that was a lie but it sounded good :thumbsup:
#33
Sach
Here's a pic of the ring I got in Antwerp, for £700 it is the bargain of the century!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/Sach1n/Ring.jpg


I accept your proposal :)
#34
Here's a pic of the ring I got in Antwerp, for £700 it is the bargain of the century!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/Sach1n/Ring.jpg
1 Like #35
Sach
Here's a pic of the ring I got in Antwerp, for £700 it is the bargain of the century!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/Sach1n/Ring.jpg



Thats what i want me engagement ring to be like, and this is what i was telling him to buy, gorgeous ring!
#36
MBeeching
I accept your proposal :)


LOL! :-D I can only afford one wife!
#37
Sach
LOL! :-D I can only afford one wife!


Maybe you should have thought of that and got one off HotUKDeals? :thumbsup:
#38
To give a comparison, here's a pic taken by diamondgeezer of the actual engagement ring. I have to say, this ring is soooo blingy, and when light hits it, it's like a disco ball... However, this comes at a cost. This spec is:

Size: Round brilliant 0.57ct
Clarity: VVS2
Cut: Very good
Polish: Very good
Setting: Tiffany on a platinum band
GIA (highest) Certification, diamond lazer engraved with unique ref number for added security
Price: £1900

It came with a valuation of £4500, and isn't far off what you'd pay in the high street, so I was chuffed.

Here's the pic:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/Sach1n/Engagementring.jpg
#39
Wow, how on earth am I ever going to propose to a girl with that amazing ring at the back of my mind? That's a seriously nice ring, wishing you and your lucky gal all the best :)
1 Like #40
Thanks MBeeching, I'm sure you can do better mate! As I mentioned earlier, diamond buying is very subjective and as long as you're (I mean the recipient :-) ) is happy with it, then it's the right one.

My advice to everyone is don't buy from the highstreet unless you want to pay twice the price for an inferior stone. Most highstreet jewellers don't stock much better than a J colour and a SI1 quality, which they are trying to flog as superior stones at a premium price. Use the stores as a benchmark, try on lots of different rings and find the style that is right, and then buy it from elsewhere...

Good luck to all the diamond hunters. If you need any advice, feel free to drop me an e-mail.

Cheers
Sach

Post a Comment

You don't need an account to leave a comment. Just enter your email address. We'll keep it private.

...OR log in with your social account

...OR comment using your social account

Thanks for your comment! Keep it up!
We just need to have a quick look and it will be live soon.
The community is happy to hear your opinion! Keep contributing!