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Did anyone want Gordon Brown to take over as Prime Minister?

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Anyone? He seems to have made a right hash of it
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banned7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
Anyone?

He seems to have made a right hash of it
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banned7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
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#1
Clarkson!
banned#2
Can't say I fancied anyone else and at the time the economy was alright.
#3
I would have been happy with anyelected PM
#4
There might've been that one guy who lived in a hut in land's end or somewhere
banned#5
Scribbles
I would have been happy with anyelected PM


Not the way our system works though. There are plenty of things to bash him over the head for but comments ignorant of the British parliamentary system are just boring.
#6
Adam2050
Clarkson!


Has my vote!!!

I did want Brown at first becuase I thought he was a nice guy but now things have taken a turn I can see that it's time for a change!!! I don't care who does it - just sort it out!!!!
#7
Scribbles;5388742
I would have been happy with anyelected PM


MP's and parties are elected - but their leadership is an internal affair... I don't think many people who voted labour last time round were not fully aware the Tony Blair wouldn't stay for the whole term and Gordon Brown was almost a certainty to replace him...
#8
FilthAndFurry
Not the way our system works though. There are plenty of things to bash him over the head for but comments ignorant of the British parliamentary system are just boring.


Well it's good that they make explaining the *British parliamentary system* an important component of learning in pre-GCSE curriculum then isn't it? No wait...Hardly seems fair at all.
#9
No I didnt
#10
* imagining some kind of Big Brother game show where the first prize is a blow at the prime ministry*.... I think I just wrote a new Dr Who episode. Now where do the Daleks come in....
#11
I really dread to think of the state we would be in now if he hadnt,
#12
FilthAndFurry
Not the way our system works though. There are plenty of things to bash him over the head for but comments ignorant of the British parliamentary system are just boring.


But add in the fact that Blair made a promise of doing a full term in office at the last election? Would Labour have won the last election with Brown as the candidate? I'm not so sure.

jah128
MP's and parties are elected - but their leadership is an internal affair... I don't think many people who voted labour last time round were not fully aware the Tony Blair wouldn't stay for the whole term and Gordon Brown was almost a certainty to replace him...


see above
banned#13
Scribbles
But add in the fact that Blair made a promise of doing a full term in office at the last election? Would Labour have won the last election with Brown as the candidate? I'm not so sure.


Possibly, but either way the country would have been in a similar position whoever was in power.

We'd still be in Iraq/Afghanistan. We'd still be in an economic crisis. There would still be an expenses scandal.

We just do what we do every 10 years - sacrifice our leader at the altar of 'change' and act like things will be different.
#14
jah128
MP's and parties are elected - but their leadership is an internal affair... I don't think many people who voted labour last time round were not fully aware the Tony Blair wouldn't stay for the whole term and Gordon Brown was almost a certainty to replace him...


Indeed, but to my mind that's one of the many faults in our system (don't even get me started on First past the post). The party leader, and therefore PM, wields a great deal of power and could totally change the party direction on important issues. As such I personally think at the very least any change of leader in the ruling party should automatically trigger a general election.
#15
FilthAndFurry
Possibly, but either way the country would have been in a similar position whoever was in power.

We'd still be in Iraq/Afghanistan. We'd still be in an economic crisis. There would still be an expenses scandal.

We just do what we do every 10 years - sacrifice our leader at the altar of 'change' and act like things will be different.


True, Brown is just the unfortunate person to be presiding over what looks like it will turn into a bloodbath for the govt. Will Labour become the new 'Liberal' party I wonder? Isolated as a third party for a century?
banned#16
Scribbles
True, Brown is just the unfortunate person to be presiding over what looks like it will turn into a bloodbath for the govt. Will Labour become the new 'Liberal' party I wonder? Isolated as a third party for a century?


Could do. I think they've lost their way and that should hopefully mean the Lib Dems become the opposition at the next election.
#17
FilthAndFurry
Could do. I think they've lost their way and that should hopefully mean the Lib Dems become the opposition at the next election.


The way I see it is that someone at Labour HQ needs to hit the reset button. Labour no longer represent the views of the traditional Labour voter. In fact Blair deliberately took the Conservative position in 1997, forcing the tories to the middle ground. In effect, a role reversal. That makes New Labour a bunch of turncoats in my eyes.
banned#18
Scribbles
The way I see it is that someone at Labour HQ needs to hit the reset button. Labour no longer represent the views of the traditional Labour voter. In fact Blair deliberately took the Conservative position in 1997, forcing the tories to the middle ground. In effect, a role reversal. That makes New Labour a bunch of turncoats in my eyes.


You're absolutely right. To me, that's the only chance Labour have. Apologise for acting like tories for the last 12 years.
#19
I was not a fan of Brown, but to be fair, I think anyone who becomes PM after Blair would be in the same position. Think, at the time, the job was a poisoned chalice.
#20
Adam2050
Clarkson!


Clarkson? No thanks, we don't need another moron running the country..

Although saying that..
Brown was just unfortunate to take leadership after Blair who had already made the mess.
#21
thrustmaster
Clarkson? No thanks, we don't need another moron running the country..

Although saying that..
Brown was just unfortunate to take leadership after Blair who had already made the mess.


Browns a moron. Clarkson is comedy genuis. Any of the leadership at the moment I wouldn't want in but that last thing we want in is the torries.
banned#22
jah128
MP's and parties are elected - but their leadership is an internal affair... I don't think many people who voted labour last time round were not fully aware the Tony Blair wouldn't stay for the whole term and Gordon Brown was almost a certainty to replace him...


Yup. Very true. (Unless you lived on a desert Island with postal voting and no TV or newspapers.

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