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Do "How much can I sell x for?" threads in Misc have 'hidden agendas', and if so, should they be banned?

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Another one of these has just been posted, and it made me wonder whether they should not be discouraged, especially as the OP created a similar thread in advance of a big sale she currently has going … Read More
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
Another one of these has just been posted, and it made me wonder whether they should not be discouraged, especially as the OP created a similar thread in advance of a big sale she currently has going in FS/T? Apart from the fact that members should be able to make their own decisions about how much to sell an item for, this can be seen as a form of advertising in the Misc forum. Fair enough, Misc is used for advice all the time, but when the advice being sought involves getting people to talk about something that is about to be listed by the OP for sale in HUKD, should this not be considered as generating interest in the sale? A kind of pre-sale advertising tactic..?

Or maybe that's too harsh and we should ban members suggesting that something should be banned? That's another issue to discuss...
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
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banned#1
Yes they do.......desperately hoping someone will say, 'Ooo, I'll buy that'!!!

Why they dont just research on Ebay and post in the 'for sale forum' I'll never know :roll:
#2
Rofl..................
#3
I think a lot of the time they are genuine and sometimes needed, I mean last week I saw a game fetching £20 + go for £3 because op had no idea. Some people probably abuse it, but I don't think the majority do, they just want a genuine valuation before listing :thumbsup:
#4
i agree i always get the impression its fishing for sales and promoting the item
#5
I totally agree. It seems like a way of promoting a private auction!!!
#6
I think it is a response for the inability to allow a selling value of "offers" in the FS/FT section?
#7
I'm selling the wife's car soon (1.8 Escort Ghia X in pepper red (met), aircon, twin arbags, alloys, 6 disk cd changer etc and i'll even throw in a full Ashley performance exhaust system for the buyer to fit), how much should I ask?


:p
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Shengis
I'm selling the wife's car soon (1.8 Escort Ghia X in pepper red (met), aircon, twin arbags, alloys, 6 disk cd changer etc and i'll even throw in a full Ashley performance exhaust system for the buyer to fit), how much should I ask?


:p


I will give you £4000 if you end the auction now:thumbsup:
#9
You don't want to come in at two high a price, because you'll just get ignored, yet you don't want to come in to low, cos you'll have your arm snapped off.

Ebay doesn't always show the right figure, people on there will pay over the odds on things, and don't research, whereas us, on here, know the latest price for items.
#10
Thanks for the responses above :thumbsup:

pghstochaj
I think it is a response to the inability to allow a selling value of "offers" in the FS/FT section?


Yes, granted, it probably is partly a response to this sometimes. But surely the seller can simply use the search function for previous sales here, or use ebay as mentioned above? The main point for me is that although it might be helpful, it is also open to abuse.
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Liddle ol' me





But surely the seller can simply use the search function for previous sales here, or use ebay as mentioned above?


Agree 110% :thumbsup:
#12
Shengis
I'm selling the wife's car soon (1.8 Escort Ghia X in pepper red (met), aircon, twin arbags, alloys, 6 disk cd changer etc and i'll even throw in a full Ashley performance exhaust system for the buyer to fit), how much should I ask?


Train Driver
I will give you £4000 if you end the auction now:thumbsup:


:w00t: Precisely. Teachers take note. Don't teach - demonstate. :thumbsup:
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Train Driver
I will give you £4000 if you end the auction now:thumbsup:


:lol:

Good offer I was thinking closer to £750 :w00t:
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Liddle ol' me
Thanks for the responses above :thumbsup:



Yes, granted, it probably is partly a response to this sometimes. But surely the seller can simply use the search function for previous sales here, or use ebay as mentioned above? The main point for me is that although it might be helpful, it is also open to abuse.


If you are selling an item and want the highest value, a thread finding prelim offers may allow you to get a higher price than you estimate from your own sources though. Caused by loads of things, such as people wanting something in particular at a specific time, difficulties with buying some items on ebay and so on.

I sold a D900 and simply didn't care a great deal about getting the best price, plenty of people offered the asking price and it sold to the first person that did. I could have asked for a higher price and probably have gotten it, a "what is it worth thread", or "offers thread" would have told me this. Now I wasn't bothered, I would rather have made somebody happy with a good price than made a few pounds more. However, if my financial position was different, I could have used "offers" or a "what is it worth thread" to improve my return.

I would say the whole system is partly at fault. As stated above, too high a value and you're ignored, too low and you lose money. You are supposed to accept the first offer at asking price, but that is an artificial sale in my opinion, normally you would think people could offer in excess of the asking if they really want the item, thus becoming more of a market place and more suited to the "interactive environment". I apologise if this is not how the rules state a sale should occur, but it was my understanding.
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pghstochaj
I would say the whole system is partly at fault. As stated above, too high a value and you're ignored, too low and you lose money. You are supposed to accept the first offer at asking price, but that is an artificial sale in my opinion, normally you would think people could offer in excess of the asking if they really want the item, thus becoming more of a market place and more suited to the "interactive environment". I apologise if this is not how the rules state a sale should occur, but it was my understanding.


Actually, I think the system works quite well as it encourages people to think about their prices beforehand and discourages auction style selling (not good in a 'community').

Btw, have you noticed that this thread is now not visible on the board? Or is it only me who is not able to see it? :thinking:
#16
I can see it?

Well, I guess that depends on whether the FT/FS is supposed to be a community or more of a market place. I guess if it is going to remain as it is (low scale, unregistered users and so on) then a community is fine. However, I personally think that if offers is not an accepted method for pricing, "what is it worth" threads are a necessary annoyance, whatever their intentions.
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Liddle ol' me
Actually, I think the system works quite well as it encourages people to think about their prices beforehand and discourages auction style selling (not good in a 'community').

Btw, have you noticed that this thread is now not visible on the board? Or is it only me who is not able to see it? :thinking:


i can see it!
#18
onlyme23
i can see it!


That's weird. For me it is only visible by clicking on the recent threads list. It isn't on the board :thinking: :?
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Liddle ol' me
That's weird. For me it is only visible by clicking on the recent threads list. It isn't on the board :thinking: :?


i have all showed and new and its still listed bout 2/3's down the first page :thumbsup:
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pghstochaj
I can see it?

Well, I guess that depends on whether the FT/FS is supposed to be a community or more of a market place. I guess if it is going to remain as it is (low scale, unregistered users and so on) then a community is fine. However, I personally think that if offers is not an accepted method for pricing, "what is it worth" threads are a necessary annoyance, whatever their intentions.


Yes, that's a good point. I think FS/T Forum is more of a marketplace (albeit where friendship also develop and a 'I'll scratch your back' mentality can also develop over time) and Misc Forum is more of a community. Stopping the kinds of threads I'm talking about prevent the boundaries between the two becoming too blurred. Maybe...?

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