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Do not modd your xbox 360

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banned9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
Microsoft Starts Banning 360s on LIVE - MS Confirms
>> With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today.
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned. They probably detect backup discs when you play 'em online (not confirmed yet).
Even people using the new firmwares with disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it.
Just like on Xbox1 it seems Microsoft bans the console unique ID, not the LIVE user.

Update: This was just posted on Microsoft's Games Global Marketing team blog:

One of the great things about LIVE and the unified community is that we work hard to create a level playing field for all gamers and have a no tolerance policy towards inappropriate behavior like hacking or cheating. As part of our commitment to our members, we do not allow people that we have detected to have modified their console to connect to LIVE. This is an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules. This topic is more important than ever given the recent release of the Halo 3 beta. As a result, some consumers that try to login to LIVE who we detect have illegally modified their console will get an error code (Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D) when trying to connect to the service. These users will not have their account automatically banned from LIVE, but they will no longer be able to access the service from the console they modified.

We have stated in the past that customers can only enjoy access to the Xbox LIVE community through the use of a genuine, unmodified, Xbox console and we will continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of our service, the protection of our partners and the benefits of our users.




Source: http://www.xbox-scene.com/
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banned9y, 6m agoPosted 9 years, 6 months ago
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#1
Crap i was gonna get mine modded soon :(
#2


I never thought I'd see that posted from "h4x3r";-)
banned#3
Koopa
I never thought I'd see that posted from "h4x3r";-)


ha ha LOL
[mod]#4
There will be a flood of these on eBay now.
#5
Brilliant, Maybe games will now be a bit cheaper because people can't rip the developers off.

(Although i'm sure they'll be the odd one who uses a mod chip and a switch for xbox live like xbox1.)
#6
Still ideal for people that don't play online.:)
#7
ajm007
Still ideal for people that don't play online.:)

amen
#8
Fair play.
#9
What about if its modded but when you go online you play originals??

Thanks
#10
trouty500
What about if its modded but when you go online you play originals??

Thanks


I'd guess that unless they were in your room watching you put the disc in, They'd spot the firmware used to play copies and think you were playing an illegal copy anyway.
#11
I cannot see how it is "illegal" to modify your own console?

Ah well :whistling:
#12
Go on then hands up!, Who has been banned from xbox live?
#13
Iom-RF
Go on then hands up!, Who has been banned from xbox live?


Me. :x
banned#14
Iom-RF
(Although i'm sure they'll be the odd one who uses a mod chip and a switch for xbox live like xbox1.)


You cannot compare between Xbox and Xbox 360 different systems

The xbox 360 IF it is chipped its MORE likely to get blacklisted because Microsoft would know

AND
Microsoft found out HOW to check if a DVD drive is modded where modded and blacklisted them

And it is illegal to mod your console to play backups its against there T&C
#15
ade2j
I cannot see how it is "illegal" to modify your own console?

Ah well :whistling:


It is part of EUCD legislation which the UK falls under. I think you're still allowed to modify consoles in Australia though :)
#16
MBeeching
It is part of EUCD legislation which the UK falls under. I think you're still allowed to modify consoles in Australia though :)


Lets move then :giggle:
#17
ade2j
Lets move then :giggle:


It's legal in Australia because it was ruled that region coding is anti-competitive. This is probably why the PS3 is region free for gaming so that it's very clear that any consumer modding is now purely to breach copy protection rather than play imports.
#19
damn it i can't believe i just spent £50 on a webcam that doesn't even work in linux just so i could get a 12 month pass for xbox live which is now pretty useless to me but i have already activated it. rant over!!!
#20
robgoldt
damn it i can't believe i just spent £50 on a webcam that doesn't even work in linux just so i could get a 12 month pass for xbox live which is now pretty useless to me but i have already activated it. rant over!!!


I say blame Mr $$%&$"£ Brown :thumbsup:
#21
Dont forget, for every taller wall there's a taller ladder...
#22
Cant you just make a Live ID based in Austrailia..........
#23
you could try but if it blocks u thats your 360 blocked for good even if u flash the drive back onto standard

i'm gonna unplug the ethernet when i get home and make do with single player ... i'm not feeling a ban!
#24
It is conceivable with falling prices that Microsoft will simply sell more 360s (at a loss!) and people will have one for online and one for playing backups.
#25
MBeeching
It is conceivable with falling prices that Microsoft will simply sell more 360s (at a loss!) and people will have one for online and one for playing backups.

Beats the point of backups, as you'll have to actually purchase the game if you want to play it online...

Sure someone will come up with something.

Just glad I held off, as I was going to be doing mine after the Halo 3 Beta.
#26
more likely is that the number of people on xbox live will drop massively!
#27
Iom-RF
Brilliant, Maybe games will now be a bit cheaper because people can't rip the developers off.

(Although i'm sure they'll be the odd one who uses a mod chip and a switch for xbox live like xbox1.)


Actually the rise in popularity of pre-owned games, as pushed by the likes of Game and Gamestation, has hurt the developers much much more than piracy ever has or ever could. Blame them if you want a scapegoat for high prices.
#28
right - heres my opinion

you paid £300 or whatever for a console
you knew the price of the games - but chose to get a cheap modded option

you deserve for the xbox not to work online

now - i am hoping and i mean i am hoping - that microsoft put a update for the xbox on the halo 3 disk - which makes it so the chipped xboxes cant play it
#29
but surely if that happened when halo 3 got pirated they would simply take out the code that detects / stops it loading before burning it. i can't imagine that many people with a modded machine would buy it anyway to be honest?
#30
robgoldt
but surely if that happened when halo 3 got pirated they would simply take out the code that detects / stops it loading before burning it. i can't imagine that many people with a modded machine would buy it anyway to be honest?


Removing or changing anything on a game disc breaks the signature of the disc and therefor it wont work.

No one ever circumvented the Xbox 1 bans, don't see it being any different this time to be honest!
#31
just to add to that. You can still play modded games, the only thing you can't do is sign in Xbox Live. Be it Gold or silver, as i found out this morning. So no demoes, vids & death matches. If your not bothered by that then no worries (like me!)... Again your console is not bricked or anything like that.
#32
JayBird
Removing or changing anything on a game disc breaks the signature of the disc and therefor it wont work.

No one ever circumvented the Xbox 1 bans, don't see it being any different this time to be honest!


i was referring to the idea that halo 3 retail copy would not boot on a modded machine. who knows though
#33
JayBird
No one ever circumvented the Xbox 1 bans,!


changing the eeprom chip, or cloning the eeprom from your other xbox, got them back onto live good enough :) only with real games though mind
#34
robgoldt
changing the eeprom chip, or cloning the eeprom from your other xbox, got them back onto live good enough :) only with real games though mind


yeah, thats what i meant. We will be refering to playing backups online as "the gold old days" soon enough :)
#35
aye tell me about it, well its like that already init. sooo glad i bought teh £50 live vision cam + 12 month pass bundle last week. NOT! to get the borat reference in lol
#36
ade2j
I cannot see how it is "illegal" to modify your own console?

Ah well :whistling:

It is if you think about it, same as buying pirate DVD's and funding dodgy stuff...
#37
h4x3r
it is illegal to mod your console to play backups its against there T&C


I'm well aware its Illegal to mod a console, I don't own any pirated games or have any "back up copies" For that very reason.

The point I was making is that Microsoft can only "search" your system when its online, If you have a chip/switch (obviously installed before you got banned) that only allows real games to be played on XBL, Then when they search it'll look all original.

Its surprising the amount of people that actually changed their xbox 360 firmware, Now they can't play any games online.

Microsoft make a loss on the consoles as it is, Did anybody really expected them to sit back and do nothing to the one thing they make any real money from?
#38
saw this on x-scene, would be gutted if that was mine!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/502559934_5ca326cf17.jpg
#39
Iom-RF
I'm well aware its Illegal to mod a console, I don't own any pirated games or have any "back up copies" For that very reason.

The point I was making is that Microsoft can only "search" your system when its online, If you have a chip/switch (obviously installed before you got banned) that only allows real games to be played on XBL, Then when they search it'll look all original.

Its surprising the amount of people that actually changed their xbox 360 firmware, Now they can't play any games online.

Microsoft make a loss on the consoles as it is, Did anybody really expected them to sit back and do nothing to the one thing they make any real money from?


Unfortunately this is not true, even playing games offline, the 'backup' copy data is stored in the flash memory of the xbox 360, next time you log on to live this data can be accessed by Microsoft. Many people with chipped 360's have been banned, it is no safer than flashing the firmware. ANY console that has had a backup played it in could and probably has been logged by Microsoft, regardless of whether the backup copy was played on or offline. Unfortunately this probably means it is just a matter of time that anyone with a modded console in any way shape or form will eventually get banned unless you never go on live again. They are able to access the read speed difference between an original and backup copy and this is how they are getting everyone. Anyone with a non-modded 360 there may be good news on the horizon as i believe a new xtreme firmware will be available soon which will allow online play. All backup copues must have all info that the original disks have so many backup copies u now own will no longer work because the copies are not exact and will be easily identifiable by M$oft.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :-(

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