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Do you believe in the afterlife?

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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
I never ever did, thought its all aload of bull!!

But, my Grandad recently passed away. He was in hospital and we knew it was coming, me and my Dad were in a side room with him. I was watching TV, and suddenly it froze. I heard (what i thought was my uncle) a mans voice ask where Gordon (Grandads name) was. I asked my Dad if he heard it, he said no, I walked out the room into the corridor, nobody was there?! I turned round into the room and my Grandad was grey, he passed away about 10minutes later . I know im not crazy i heard the voice and even asked there and then if my Dad heard it. My Grandad had been steady, from the tv freezing to hearing that voice and my Grandad taking his last breaths was only about 15 mins, we had been sitting with him for 5 hours prior to this.

Its been getting to me abit, its 2 month today since he died, i was really really close to him, my Grandma, his wife died 10 days later aswell.

Has anybody else experienced anything like this?

Please dont make this into a joke topic, I am still very freaked out by it and upset!
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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#1
That is tough dude . My sympathies
#2
It's always sad to hear of loss of loved ones, you have suffered 2 losses so close together

I'm afraid that people will come out and shout abuse at people who have the nerve to say that they have had experience of the afterlife.

It's happened to me so many times, I get fed up of saying and being attacked.

The problem is when people are visited quite often it is not wanted, and it is often a shock to themselves, and then people mock them for it, and so they learn to suffer in silence.

As you can see I feel quite strongly about this. I've had lots of experiences, which have stopped in recent years.

A nice one for my sister though is when our nan visited her when she was close to having her first child. It was on my nan's birthday and my sister was very close to her. Another friend also saw my nan, and had never had any visitations before - so she was completely shocked.
#3
No I don't.

Can I ask if you believe in ghosts / the after life.

The reason I ask is that I think if you do believe in it then things appear to you and you find a link.

Me I don't believe in it and I always find a reasonble explanation to dismiss anything of this nature.
#4
my nan was sent home to die as there was no more they could do that was on the monday she was really poorly and never moved from her bed on the wednesday she moved she sat up and shouted joe wait for me joe was my grandad thing is she never spoke or moved in 2 days suddenly she had moved and had passed away at the same time so i do think someone comes to take you over where or what ever it is that comes next
#5
I like the idea that we exist in a certain 'dimension' and there are other dimensions all around us that we cannot see. In death we move to another parallel dimension and every now and then, for reasons we cannot explain, people from that dimension accidentally, or not, venture into ours. Maybe what you heard was your Grandpa letting you know that even from another place he would still be close to you. I wish you strength and Long Life.
#6
a couple of months after my dad died, the car that he had gifted to us had to be scrapped as it would cost too much to repair. we looked around several places for a new one and kept being drawn to a particular one, so bought it. When we went to pick it up i got a chill down my back cos the reg had the letters NES in it. when i was little it was a family joke that we had a car with NES in the reg and i called it nessie and broke my heart when it was scrapped as i loved it so much! I belive that my Dad was guiding us to buy it, it's a good car.
#7
i totally believe in it. i have not had any experiences but truely believe in it.

im so sorry of your loses.
banned#8
Butterflies
It's always sad to hear of loss of loved ones, you have suffered 2 losses so close together

I'm afraid that people will come out and shout abuse at people who have the nerve to say that they have had experience of the afterlife.

It's happened to me so many times, I get fed up of saying and being attacked.

The problem is when people are visited quite often it is not wanted, and it is often a shock to themselves, and then people mock them for it, and so they learn to suffer in silence.

As you can see I feel quite strongly about this. I've had lots of experiences, which have stopped in recent years.

A nice one for my sister though is when our nan visited her when she was close to having her first child. It was on my nan's birthday and my sister was very close to her. Another friend also saw my nan, and had never had any visitations before - so she was completely shocked.


The human mind is capable of playing tricks on itself. I don't think we can underestimate some people's need to find links or signs to placate them.

So what you've experienced wouldn't have been anything supernatural, just a response perhaps to stress or periods of high emotion.
#9
FilthAndFurry
The human mind is capable of playing tricks on itself. I don't think we can underestimate some people's need to find links or signs to placate them.

So what you've experienced wouldn't have been anything supernatural, just a response perhaps to stress or periods of high emotion.


Of course you will say that! You don't believe.

So when my living room door opened in front of my eyes, and then whatever passed me and opened and slammed closed every single cupboard and drawer in the kitchen that was a bit of wind... or maybe I dreamed the whole thing.

Or maybe

When my sister was in her flat ironing, and the entire pile launched itself from 3 metres away from her - towards her, Maybe an extra strong ant decided to move it, but was made jump.

Maybe when my kitchen clock in my old flat jumped from the wall in the kitchen and flew into the living room (twice) in front of my eyes and once in front of my now husbands - that someone had been hammering extra hard on the flat next door.

The 2 times in the flat that I was held down in bed - yes I could say maybe I had a temporary sleep paralysis, but is it likely? It only ever happened in that flat the 2 times, never before or after.

I'm afraid I've had a multitude of things happen to me over the years - that I try to explain as something else and until you have an experience as such, you really shouldn't go round telling people that it was as a result of our emotions - because you don't know that. I would rather it had been! To be honest it's insulting.
#10
I like to think so,
I hold on to SOMETHING after this life.. it gives me something to hold on too, even if im proved wrong when i pass! What harm am i doing living in hope.
banned#11
Butterflies
Of course you will say that! You don't believe.

So when my living room door opened in front of my eyes, and then whatever passed me and opened and slammed closed every single cupboard and draw in the kitchen that was a bit of wind... or maybe I dreamed the whole thing.

Or maybe

When my sister was in her flat ironing, and the entire pile launched itself from 3 metres away from her - towards her, Maybe an extra strong ant decided to move it, but was made jump.

Maybe when my kitchen clock in my old flat jumped from the wall in the kitchen and flew into the living room (twice) in front of my eyes and once in front of my now husbands - that someone had been hammering extra hard on the flat next door.

The 2 times in the flat that I was held down in bed - yes I could say maybe I had a temporary sleep paralysis, but is it likely? It only ever happened in that flat the 2 times, never before or after.

I'm afraid I've had a multitude of things happen to me over the years - that I try to explain as something else and until you have an experience as such, you really shouldn't go round telling people that it was as a result of our emotions - because you don't know that. I would rather it had been! To be honest it's insulting.


So you think they're spirits?

Why not invisible men?

Or aliens in cloaking devices?

Or maybe camouflaged ninja seals?

Because you want to believe so much that you automatically ascribe supernatural meaning to things that did or didn't happen?

Like I said, the mind can play tricks on itself when the subconscious mind wants to.
#12
No I don't but that doesn't mean that other people shouldn't either - it's a personal thing.
#13
There's no point in debating this - it's been going on for centuries

There's no evidence other than people's experiences and you can't share those with a non believer. I know it goes against science and reasonable argument, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I've seen an uncle that died when I was young on 3 occasions. I'm not even going to bother going into the story but before this event we had past lots of strange events off with excuses.

When we moved out of our child hood house, our old neighbours reported back that the new family had it exorcised shortly after they moved in. I found it reassuring as I hadn't told anyone my experiences for years as there was no point, to find that someone had to go to that extreme.

I'm not going to respond any more as it's like banging your head against a brick wall, talking to a Non believer.
#14
yes i do beleive in it and i have very strong reasons.
#15
Sorry to hear of your losses.

I can't offer an explanation for many things that happen. It does not necessarily mean that there isn't an explanation. I have heard many accounts of similar things. When my niece was two she had several conversations with a man used to sit on the end of her bed. There was never anybody physically there. According to her mum the description sounded like a dead relative who had died before my niece was born.

I don't know what to believe. But a television programme I was watching recently raised an interesting point. If there is life after death, is there also life before birth?
#16
Hon I am sorry you feel upset by this.

I want to reassure you that many people experience sights and sounds they wouldn't have otherwise been experiencing due to a close personal bereavement. I believe these come from the force of emotion contained within the grief we all experience at the passing of a loved one.

I think this is the human mind solacing, comforting itself and the grief leaking out in many ways.

I am so sorry for your loss and would give you a big hug if I were there :) x x x
banned#17
cherishu2
yes i do beleive in it and i have very strong reasons.


Are any of them scientific or backed up by evidence?
banned#18
Butterflies
There's no point in debating this - it's been going on for centuries

There's no evidence other than people's experiences and you can't share those with a non believer. I know it goes against science and reasonable argument, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

I've seen an uncle that died when I was young on 3 occasions. I'm not even going to bother going into the story but before this event we had past lots of strange events off with excuses.

When we moved out of our child hood house, our old neighbours reported back that the new family had it exorcised shortly after they moved in. I found it reassuring as I hadn't told anyone my experiences for years as there was no point, to find that someone had to go to that extreme.

I'm not going to respond any more as it's like banging your head against a brick wall, talking to a Non believer.


The difference being that centuries ago we were unenlightened, burning witches at the stake, removing women's wombs because they were 'hysterical', performing exorcisms and thinking the world was flat.
#19
It appears some are still unenlightened on some things :thumbsup:

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
banned#20
Butterflies
It appears some are still unenlightened on some things :thumbsup:

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.


That's not a very nice thing to say. Just because I pointed out that the world has changed a lot a we went through an age of enlightened thought, where science and evidence became important.
#21
FilthAndFurry
That's not a very nice thing to say. Just because I pointed out that the world has changed a lot a we went through an age of enlightened thought, where science and evidence became important.


Ah well I didn't mean to insult you on your intelligence because I already know you are quite smart and full of reasonable argument or debate. I purely meant on this one thing - If you had experience you would be enlightened and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
#22
Butterflies
It's always sad to hear of loss of loved ones, you have suffered 2 losses so close together

I'm afraid that people will come out and shout abuse at people who have the nerve to say that they have had experience of the afterlife.

It's happened to me so many times, I get fed up of saying and being attacked.

The problem is when people are visited quite often it is not wanted, and it is often a shock to themselves, and then people mock them for it, and so they learn to suffer in silence.

As you can see I feel quite strongly about this. I've had lots of experiences, which have stopped in recent years.

A nice one for my sister though is when our nan visited her when she was close to having her first child. It was on my nan's birthday and my sister was very close to her. Another friend also saw my nan, and had never had any visitations before - so she was completely shocked.


I was born in my father's family home, the home where he himself grew up when he was a child.

My grandfather died in that home when I was about two years of age.

I can always remember my two elder sisters discussing quite naturally that they'd seen Grandad many times after his death with our mother ( I'm the baby of the family and heard many conversations and thought about them rather than indulged in them myself ).

Certainly my Grandfather's room was a very sundrenched room and the lighting was so sunny it was cloudy at times, sounds contradictory but it isn't, the light was hazy from the sun, and we often "saw" him after his death.

When my baby died, I couldn't have differentiated between what was real and what wasn't. Whether i closed my eyes or not, I saw dead babies, even when these "visions" lessened, it took maybe five months before I stopped hearing babies screaming ( co-incidentally enough perhaps around the same time I became pregnant again ). When my next baby was born, he was born a year and a day after my other baby died. I "felt" my son with me when my other son was born.

Similarly we go to the cemetery to take flower to the grave pretty regularly. When my son was just a year old and I'd taken my daughters to the cemetery, he and his Dad went into a neighbouring field to play so the girls and I could visit peacefully. My son came running over to me afterwards and said, "where baby?" he was looking behind me as if he could see a baby just behind me.

The point is.... such experiences may be seen by some of " evidence of an afterlife" by others they appear to be a manifestation of the intense power of our emotions and grief.

Such experiences are deeply personal and valid to the person who experiences them, however they perceive them and whatever they believe them to be.

As a side note.... there is some scientific work done on whether human beings can be aware of an action before it happens. The statistical data found that they can.... but the time difference between knowledge of what is to come and the incident actually happening is at most seconds.
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I love hearing stories like clarity of mind's as it gives me some hope that i might see loved ones again. Not to see my parents again would be a terrible thing, so here's hoping
banned#24
I believe in something, been witness to quite a few unexplainable things
not writing personal experiences in here to be ripped apart though xxx
#25
student_mummy


Im genuinely not sure what cuffs and collar means? :? you keep saying complicated things lol x


You gotta be kidding me.... What you like!

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I don't believe in the afterlife. I think once we die, that's it. Life turned off, as if it's a light switch.

I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's anything pleasant waiting for us beyond our demise. I think some people use it as comfort and denial, especially the religious amongst us - as they're scared to death of the reality of death.

Afterlife/ghosts/paranormal.... even UFO's, all those are similar in a way: even with the event of us all having camera fones to capture images, being under 24hr video surveillance and with increasing technology available every single week - and there's still no scientific or kosher photographical evidence of the paranormal being factual in any sense.
#26
FilthAndFurry
Are any of them scientific or backed up by evidence?


I knew youd ask that.
of course they are...not.
Whether you beleive or not i was told after lots of visits from ghosts that because my ancestors were romany clarevoyents (sp). I attract them. I very often have them around.
last night one was pulling at my duvet and that is honest truth.
My husband was a total none beleiver, a i'll beleived it, if i see myself man.
Well he does now after meeting me, and seeing it himself. I remember his first time bless him pmsl.
Ive had an exorcism done on me too. No not because im the devil nerrrr.
im not onervly religious either im very skeptical about it.
banned#27
cherishu2
I knew youd ask that.
of course they are...not.
Whether you beleive or not i was told after lots of visits from ghosts that because my ancestors were romany clarevoyents (sp). I attract them. I very often have them around.
last night one was pulling at my duvet and that is honest truth.
My husband was a total none beleiver, a i'll beleived it, if i see myself man.
Well he does now after meeting me, and seeing it himself. I remember his first time bless him pmsl.
Ive had an exorcism done on me too. No not because im the devil nerrrr.
im not onervly religious either im very skeptical about it.


Sorry, but I have no time for people who believe in clairvoyants or psychics.

They are the worst kind of charlatans, praying often on those in need of psychological help or just sympathy. They profit on people's sadness and despair and the sooner we stop giving people false hope, the better.
#28
i cant help what my ancestors did or didnt do lol
#29
FilthAndFurry
Sorry, but I have no time for people who believe in clairvoyants or psychics.

They are the worst kind of charlatans, praying often on those in need of psychological help or just sympathy. They profit on people's sadness and despair and the sooner we stop giving people false hope, the better.


Many bereaved people find comfort in mediums and clairvoyancy. Just as many people need religion to give them hope in a tired grey world. Who are we to destroy this solace? Let the people fulfil their needs.
#30
cherishu2
I knew youd ask that.
of course they are...not.
Whether you beleive or not i was told after lots of visits from ghosts that because my ancestors were romany clarevoyents (sp). I attract them. I very often have them around.
last night one was pulling at my duvet and that is honest truth.
My husband was a total none beleiver, a i'll beleived it, if i see myself man.
Well he does now after meeting me, and seeing it himself. I remember his first time bless him pmsl.
Ive had an exorcism done on me too. No not because im the devil nerrrr.
im not onervly religious either im very skeptical about it.


that's how I am too -

You can't pursuade people that being pulled out of bed by your leg whilst you were sleeping was a real experience unless they experience it themselves.

Is it wrong that I wish it upon people? I never used to!

I don't believe in going to mediums or clairvoyants.. I wouldn't even have my tarot read at the recent school pamper evening.
#31
Butterflies
that's how I am too -

You can't pursuade people that being pulled out of bed by your leg whilst you were sleeping was a real experience unless they experience it themselves.

Is it wrong that I wish it upon people? I never used to!

I don't believe in going to mediums or clairvoyants.. I wouldn't even have my tarot read at the recent school pamper evening.


I think what you are saying is that you wish on other people to understand you're not lying hon... it's never wrong to desire to be understood and trusted x x
banned#32
I like to believe but in 7+yrs of working nights I've only once had a scary unexplained occurrence happen, wasn't just me the dog saw it as well, wish I would get pestered more often. Walked through a dutch barn clear full moon lit sky could see everything, no wind as I got to the gate at the end of the barn it rattled wildly as if someone had grabbed it and shook it. I felt like someone was saying "get out of my barn", don't go through there any more at night

btw 97% sure I've had a life after death experience
#33
ClarityofMind
I think what you are saying is that you wish on other people to understand you're not lying hon... it's never wrong to desire to be understood and trusted x x


Yes you are spot on
#34
pcnutta
I like to think so,
I hold on to SOMETHING after this life.. it gives me something to hold on too, even if im proved wrong when i pass! What harm am i doing living in hope.


:thumbsup: thats a really good way to look at it
banned#35
Butterflies
that's how I am too -

You can't pursuade people that being pulled out of bed by your leg whilst you were sleeping was a real experience unless they experience it themselves.



Im sorry, but there are plenty of logical explanations for the sensation you felt, chief amongst them being the possibility you were dreaming.

I've been woken up by a feeling of falling before, or by a very real feeling dream.
banned#36
OMG!! FilthAndFurry is right for once!!:w00t:
banned#37
ClarityofMind
Many bereaved people find comfort in mediums and clairvoyancy. Just as many people need religion to give them hope in a tired grey world. Who are we to destroy this solace? Let the people fulfil their needs.


I'm one of those people who believes using the death of someone, or someone's desperation to make a buck is slightly distasteful.
banned#38
FilthAndFurry
I'm one of those people who believes using the death of someone, or someone's desperation to make a buck is slightly distasteful.


+1
#39
I'm quite open minded myself, but also believe that when you die, thats it - end of story !

I think the introduction of religion many moons ago was to "help" people deal with death - so people dont freak out that they will not exist anymore one day.

I'd love to have a paranormal experience (not in my own home I might add lol), but 99.9% of these things can be explained by science/emotions/brain or eyes playing tricks etc

Loving the stories though guys, carry on with the personal experiences, I find it fascinating.

Anyone ever had a "bad" paranormal experience ?
#40
FilthAndFurry
I'm one of those people who believes using the death of someone, or someone's desperation to make a buck is slightly distasteful.


of course it is, if u genuinely believe there's nothing in it but lies and falsehoods...

but then there's another school of thought that says when someone is in pain you offer them solace and support and comfort them.. you fulfil their needs so they can stand whole again and come to a point where they can take a stronger more balanced view of the world again.

And I do recognise that seeing the world as right/wrong/black/white and respecting TRUTH as an absolute also gives many people comfort in its own way.... but not everyone is the same hon.

We all have to function the best we can within the world as we perceive it to be x x

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