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Does anyone even have the hardware?

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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
Preview Sky 3D in homes from 3 April
From 3 April Sky World HD customers with a new 3D ready TV will be able to preview the Sky 3D channel at home. The channel will feature a preview of Sky 3D programmes coming to your home this autumn when the channel launches in full. You'll see some of the best TV - Sky Sports, Sky Movies and entertainment - in incredible 3D like you've never seen before. If you have a new 3D ready TV find out how to activate Sky 3D in your home.


Who actually has a 3DTV already?
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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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#1
Dont think they are out just yet very soon though, not sure how the pubs are getting the sets, whether manufacturers have a deal with sky for them to sell the sets to pubs etc
#2
do you need glasses with new 3d tvs???

i only ask coz the OH is blind in one eye so anything in 3d at the moment is useless
#3
ilovepink
do you need glasses with new 3d tvs???

i only ask coz the OH is blind in one eye so anything in 3d at the moment is useless


No.. - but I dont think your OH will be able to see the 3D on the new TV's if blind in one eye..

From what i have read, the image will be made up of 2 layers, so to get the 3D affect I think you need sight in both eyes,.

My understanding is that they work like an interlaced image works on a television, except now in high definition. Interlacing means that there are two sets of resolution lines that make up the video image. It was done on older TV's because of limited bandwidth. But what it gives you is two images in time that look like one to the eye. The 3D technology will take that idea by having you wear a set of electronic glasses. It's possible for a special glass to become opaque on one signal and transparent with another signal. Put two wired glasses in front of your eyes and voila, each eye only sees the image intended for it when synchronized with the HDTV. If those interlaced images on the HDTV are shot in 3D, the technology forces your eyes to see two different images that are offset by a small angle to give the intended 3D effect.

The New 3D TV Television -
How does it work?

Ruffly the technology behind 3DTV is to display to images, one for each eye. This is called stereoscopic technology. This effect is accomplished by newly patented technology. Philips series of 3D Television sets are called WOWvx and Philips 42-3D6W02 is one of their products in that line.


Take a read online.. loads of info about it

Rick
#4
ilovepink
do you need glasses with new 3d tvs???

i only ask coz the OH is blind in one eye so anything in 3d at the moment is useless


yup

will use a technology called active shutter where lenses will alternativly flick 'on' and 'off' dont think its noticeable as it will be happening at least 100 times a second.

Not sure if it would work though if someone is blind in one eye. Would be able to find out for ya for sure tomorrow if you are thinking of getting a set
#5
I think 3D in the home is going to die on its ****, Most people have just upgraded to HD and aren't going to fork out £2-3k for another telly.
#6
Goonieman
I think 3D in the home is going to die on its ****, Most people have just upgraded to HD and aren't going to fork out £2-3k for another telly.


doubt they will be as expensive as that for 40 inch id say £1500 maybe
#7
numptyj
yup

will use a technology called active shutter where lenses will alternativly flick 'on' and 'off' dont think its noticeable as it will be happening at least 100 times a second.

Not sure if it would work though if someone is blind in one eye. Would be able to find out for ya for sure tomorrow if you are thinking of getting a set


oh god no not thinking of getting one lol they are probably mega money

just 3d films/dvds are a no no for us as he cant watch them, and was just thinking future-wise

thanks thou x
#8
ilovepink
oh god no not thinking of getting one lol they are probably mega money

just 3d films/dvds are a no no for us as he cant watch them, and was just thinking future-wise

thanks thou x


ahh right
#9
A mate of a mate bought a 3D set which cost £1k using the active shutter glasses...the glasses if he breaks them will cost around £50-75 to replace!
#10
ilovepink
do you need glasses with new 3d tvs???

i only ask coz the OH is blind in one eye so anything in 3d at the moment is useless


There will be two types from what I've seen.

Sony have the battery operated ones that flicker alternate lenses super fast. 2 come with the 3D sets as standard.
Others will use the same style specs as the 3D movies. I've seen two Sky demos (both Panasonic I think) on regular specs and a Virgin Media/Sony one with the battery operated ones.
#11
numptyj
doubt they will be as expensive as that for 40 inch id say £1500 maybe


Probably not the most reliable of sources but....
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/advice/936/New-Technologies
#12
Bit of info here too.......

A 3D TV can work in different ways, but the end result is the same. You must wear special glasses, that is for sure, they willseparate two different Left and Right images so that each image only enters your Left and Right eyes respectively.

Take this into account Mr. Anonymous: If you film something using a stereoscopic camera (two cameras built in one) at about eye-width apart and then you play back that Left video camera into your Left eye and the Right video camera into your Right eye, you see a real 3D image that actually pops out of the screen and has depth.

3D TVs can be used with special 3D glasses to correctly separate the Left and Right views out of a compatible 3D video source, if you didn't have it, it would just be a fuzzy 2D TV effects.

3D Blu-Ray players and 3D TVs are expected to be available on the consumer market later this year along with some new Blu-Ray 3D movie releases. Some cable and satellite TV providers are already working on bringing 3D TV broadcasts to the home provided that you have a compatible TV set. Get excited!!!

At the begining I said a 3D TV can work in different ways. This is because there are two popular 3D viewing technologies which are in competition right now. There is the polarized viewing method and the active shutterglass method (shutterglass looks like it will be more popular because it's cheaper to manufacture the TVs using this method).

Polarized 3D takes advantage of the fact that light can be polarized and filtered at different angles. If you build a TV that can display two different images at once that are polarized at different angles, you can make cheap plastic glasses that can filter out one of the images so that each eye only sees the correct image.

Shutterglass 3D works by flashing the left view and the right frame in sequence extremely quickly (120 times a second). The battery powered glasses are synchronized to the screen so they close the shutter for the eye when it's view is not showing and 'open' the shutter for the eye with the correct view showing. This is done so quickly you don't even notice. Shutterglasses are pretty expensive though ($100-200 a pair)

And................ if you have watched 3D movies in a movie theater(like Avatar) the experience and the feel of watching a TV program is just like that of watching a 3D movie, only you can do it in your living room!!!
#13
monkey_whiskers
There will be two types from what I've seen.

Sony have the battery operated ones that flicker alternate lenses super fast. 2 come with the 3D sets as standard.
Others will use the same style specs as the 3D movies. I've seen two Sky demos (both Panasonic I think) on regular specs and a Virgin Media/Sony one with the battery operated ones.


I know the top end Sony Bravia will have the glasses but they will be bringing out a 3D ready set which I believe you will need to pay extra for the glasses lol all diff ways of making money from it
#14
http://www.sky.com/shop/3d/home/index.html

Sky's dedicated 3D info pages.
#15
Going back to the OP's question before going off topic...


No.. i dont have the hardware...... yet...

Rick
#16
RickT
Ging back to the OP's question before going off topic...


No.. i dont have the hardware...... yet...

Rick


lol dont wanna get suspended :p
#17
numptyj
I know the top end Sony Bravia will have the glasses but they will be bringing out a 3D ready set which I believe you will need to pay extra for the glasses lol all diff ways of making money from it


I'm just surprised the service is starting already when the TV's aren't even mainstream yet. When we saw the Sky 3D previews and asked about prices, we were told they would be around 10% more than todays prices. That's quite vague really given that TVs have such varying price tags. When we asked the Virgin Media /Sony preview - he had no idea. Nor did he know how much additional glasses were, nor when they would actually be released. By the summer was as much as he knew!
#18
I know I said 1500 it might be 1500 - 1800 for 40inch size...sony one that is, I can vaguely remember talking to some of my old work mates (Sony Centre) couple of months ago and I think they had received the SKUs for them but I cant remember for defo if they said 1800~

but other sources have informed me that it would probably be around Z series Bravia money which would fit into that 1500-1800 category (40 inch prices)
#19
I think a lot of the leading brands are releasing there Mk1 versions this month rolling into May,

However some of the prices are crazy.......

Heres a question.................. -- If the screen image is made up of 2 layers and the tv's are configured this way, Im guessing they can also run in single layer mode for normal 2D ?


While there seems to be no restrictions in terms of TV size, a 3D TV needs a minimum refresh rate of 120Hz (a basic 60Hz displayed for each eye). The higher the refresh rate, the smoother the 3D effect. So a 240Hz set will be capable of outputting 120Hz to each eye.

HDMI 1.4 will also be required for full HD per eye viewing.

Until the broadcast industry settles on a standard, any '3D Ready' badge will need a graphic depicting some fingers firmly crossed.

Blu-ray 3D is the closest that we currently have to an accepted 3D standard. The Blu-ray Disc Association has given the thumbs up to Multiview Video Coding, a variant of the existing high-def H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec.

Of course, how you view 3D content has also not been set in stone. Cinemas currently use three different types of 3D glasses – passive polarized glasses, active LCS glasses, and Infitec (Dolby 3-D) glasses.
#20
numptyj
I know I said 1500 it might be 1500 - 1800 for 40inch size...sony one that is, I can vaguely remember talking to some of my old work mates (Sony Centre) couple of months ago and I think they had received the SKUs for them but I cant remember for defo if they said 1800~

but other sources have informed me that it would probably be around Z series Bravia money which would fit into that 1500-1800 category (40 inch prices)


Won't be popping out for one anytime soon myself then! Esp seeing as there's so much talk about the adapters that will be available or even TV's that wont require specs next year.

The Sony guy did say the reason the specs were different was because the battery operated ones would still allow for HD quality - where as the regular polarized ones would not.
#21
RickT
I think a lot of the leading brands are releasing there Mk1 versions this month rolling into May,

However some of the prices are crazy.......

Heres a question.................. -- If the screen image is made up of 2 layers and the tv's are configured this way, Im guessing they can also run in single layer mode for normal 2D ?

So.. How would a Sky box input switch from single to dual layer mode ?

Above its been mentioned that the glasses are still needed, but I heard that the new dual layed screens you will not need them?


Im finding that theres a lot of miss reporting going on out there on the web at the moment about these..


you can still watch a 2d picture with out the glasses otherwise it would be a very crappy piece of technology lol

the dual layer tvs u mention I dont think they give the same 3D experience yet as the ones that use active shutter, but no doubt a tv where the consumer needs no glasses to watch it in 3D will be the way forward as its just more convenient

Yeah I think there is a lot of confusion out there, but once the tvs actually come out there should be more clarity. It would be ideal if manufacturers made a 'lay mans' type guide, because a lot of people see things like Sky 3D and think they can get it on their current HDTV as long as they have glasses for it etc etc.
#22
numptyj
you can still watch a 2d picture with out the glasses otherwise it would be a very crappy piece of technology lol

the dual layer tvs u mention I dont think they give the same 3D experience yet as the ones that use active shutter, but no doubt a tv where the consumer needs no glasses to watch it in 3D will be the way forward as its just more convenient

Yeah I think there is a lot of confusion out there, but once the tvs actually come out there should be more clarity. It would be ideal if manufacturers made a 'lay mans' type guide, because a lot of people see things like Sky 3D and think they can get it on their current HDTV as long as they have glasses for it etc etc.


Also what needs to happen is a standard trend, ie all 3d TV's require active shutter glasses and keep to the same thing!

Its just like the blu-ray V HD DVD all over again...

Time will tell!
#23
RickT
Also what needs to happen is a standard trend, ie all 3d TV's require active shutter glasses etc..

Time will tell!


yup, HD took a while to take off so will probs be a few years for this but who knows, maybe the active shutter will hang around and in a few years we'll all be buying Ray Ban designer versions :p
suspended#24
When they release 3D porn then i'll buy one.
#25
numptyj
yup, HD took a while to take off so will probs be a few years for this but who knows, maybe the active shutter will hang around and in a few years we'll all be buying Ray Ban designer versions :p


The next thing will be the holocube!:-D
http://tech.uk.msn.com/features/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=152721930&page=1
#26
could be looking at about £2100 retail for 52inch Sony HX which is a pretty good price, but you didnt hear it from me :p
#27
Goonieman
I think 3D in the home is going to die on its ****, Most people have just upgraded to HD and aren't going to fork out £2-3k for another telly.


didnt people say this about plasma and lcd technology years before the prices came down for the masses to afford them

yeah to start with its gonna be expensive and found in pubs etc, but price will come down and will be the norm in about 5 years time.....ready for next generation consoles
#28
the porter
i will get one as soon as panny release their vt series april may my pio should nicely fund one :thumbsup:


nice nice, with that above price ^ it looks like they wont be as expensive as people think.

in b4 £2100 is too expensive because they would rather sit and watch their £250 32 inch supermarket brand tv...

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