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Just wondering if anyone can help. For over 2 weeks now the Council have been working outside my home replacing the footpath down the complete street...there was nothing wrong at all with the old o… Read More
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8y, 5d agoPosted 8 years, 5 days ago
Just wondering if anyone can help.

For over 2 weeks now the Council have been working outside my home replacing the footpath down the complete street...there was nothing wrong at all with the old one, so not sure why in the first place but by the by.

Anyway they start work between 8 and 8.20am every morning and the noise is really loud, cutting paving slabs with a chain saw, leaving tractor engine running, hammering etc etc.

No warning was ever given that they were starting this work (although they do maintain that a letter drop was done).

The land outside my house belongs to me as detailed in the house deeds but have been told that it is 'Adopted Highway' so the council can 'maintain' it when they see fit.

Now I understand 8-8.20am is probably the normal start time for this sort of works (they're often gone by 2.35-3.45ish).

The work was meant to be completed on Friday but noone worked Friday or Saturday. Today (obviously Sunday) I'm woken up at 6am by them starting work! I went out to ask if they were allowed to start work at this time and the workman was incredibly rude and said that this was the only time they could work in front of the shop and walked away!

Does anyone know where I can find info on whether any laws have been broken here or does anyone know the law themselves? I've been googling since 6 and don't think I'm using the right terminology.

Any help would be extremely great & thank you for reading this!
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8y, 5d agoPosted 8 years, 5 days ago
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#1
Sorry if you have answered this, but have you asked the council?
#2
thesaint
Sorry if you have answered this, but have you asked the council?


Noone to contact on Sunday to ask if 6am is acceptable as all phone numbers go to answerphone!

Plus the council are aware I am unhappy about the situation has been handled in general.

I just wondered if there were rectricted times for weekends - as I vaguely remember a construction company telling me sundays were 8am starts but needed to know for sure :thumbsup:
#3
thesaint
Sorry if you have answered this, but have you asked the council?


I don't think there would be anybody at the council to answer at this time on a sunday
#4
radiocde
I don't think there would be anybody at the council to answer at this time on a sunday

As I've just said too :)

It just seems daft and rude to not work Friday and Saturday and then start at 6am on a Sunday:thumbsup:
1 Like #5
It does seem strange, particularly when you can't legally use your car horn in a residential area before 11am. Me, I'd film the work as it's being done (either from afar for the covert factor, nearby for the local intimidation factor, or face-to-face with the work manager for the full confrontation, which would probably be my first choice if someone woke me up at 6am), and speak to the counil on Monday. If nothing satisfactory comes of it, I'd write a letter to my MP.
#6
dxx
It does seem strange, particularly when you can't legally use your car horn in a residential area before 11am. Me, I'd film the work as it's being done (either from afar for the covert factor, nearby for the local intimidation factor, or face-to-face with the work manager for the full confrontation, which would probably be my first choice if someone woke me up at 6am), and speak to the counil on Monday. If nothing satisfactory comes of it, I'd write a letter to my MP.

Thanks dxx, rep added for your help :thumbsup: Think I'll record from afar...last time on taking photos we got funny looks!:thumbsup:
#7
xsazzyjayx
Thanks dxx, rep added for your help :thumbsup: Think I'll record from afar...last time on taking photos we got funny looks!:thumbsup:


Ah, it's the funny looks that make life worthwhile. Besides, they started it.
#8
oh i wish they wouldcome and do our footpaths - they are so bad and wonky around here that i am seriously thinking of sending in a footwear bill to the council, where i walk to school and work everyday, on each of my pair of shoes/boots one side is trashed from the wonky pavements (i walk one way past the shops on way to work and a different quicker way back home from work so one side is always on the wonk!!) they are so bad that the roads get flooded at a tiny drop of rain and you have to run past every puddle as the cars can't avoid going through the water and soaking you - tis not fun and it makes me mad when they waste time on doing work when it doesn't need doing like in your case.....don't even get me started on these useless massive bins that they have sent everyone around here without even thinking about where we can store them - the most amazing waste of money i have seen in a long time ( and i know how to waste money!!)
#9
dxx
Ah, it's the funny looks that make life worthwhile. Besides, they started it.


They certainly did:thumbsup:
#10
helcatamy1
oh i wish they wouldcome and do our footpaths - they are so bad and wonky around here that i am seriously thinking of sending in a footwear bill to the council, where i walk to school and work everyday, on each of my pair of shoes/boots one side is trashed from the wonky pavements (i walk one way past the shops on way to work and a different quicker way back home from work so one side is always on the wonk!!) they are so bad that the roads get flooded at a tiny drop of rain and you have to run past every puddle as the cars can't avoid going through the water and soaking you - tis not fun and it makes me mad when they waste time on doing work when it doesn't need doing like in your case.....don't even get me started on these useless massive bins that they have sent everyone around here without even thinking about where we can store them - the most amazing waste of money i have seen in a long time ( and i know how to waste money!!)


Oh my! Can you not call your local council to report the issues with your footpath? Maybe they intended to do yours and not mine? :thumbsup:
#11
7:30 mon - Sat but 9 on a Sunday
#12
059
7:30 mon - Sat but 9 on a Sunday



Is that a law that is legally in place and not just a guideline?:thumbsup:
#13
Try calling your council offices now, ours has someone answering general enquiries on a sunday,
#14
kidcat
Try calling your council offices now, ours has someone answering general enquiries on a sunday,

Nope still closed, the whole thing is a nightmare!
1 Like #15
Under the Control of Pollution Act Section 60...

Different Councils will adopt different times for permitted working hours, but, in general the permitted working hours are:

Mon-Fri 8am-7pm
Sat 8am-1.30pm
Sunday No works

These times are generally used for construction sites, but I would include such an activity in that descriptor.

As for informing you, the council are supposed to either post an advert in the local paper to inform you of the works commencement, and/or place signage in the area informing you.
#16
moob
Under the Control of Pollution Act Section 60...

Different Councils will adopt different times for permitted working hours, but, in general the permitted working hours are:

Mon-Fri 8am-7pm
Sat 8am-1.30pm
Sunday No works

These times are generally used for construction sites, but I would include such an activity in that descriptor.

As for informing you, the council are supposed to either post an advert in the local paper to inform you of the works commencement, and/or place signage in the area informing you.


Thanks for the info...no advert or signage in the street. From what I've learnt on the phone the last few weeks when complaining, they did a letter drop and told the local shop! That's it. Although no such letter was ever delivered here:thumbsup:
#17
dxx;4968032
It does seem strange, particularly when you can't legally use your car horn in a residential area before 11am.


Pretty sure its 7am ?
banned#18
dont wish to appear rude, but you sure letter didnt arrive and was flung with junk mail, the times for works are usually 8pm and as sadi never usually on a sunday unless the conditions warrant it, maybe shop is only shut on a sunday, therefore meaning the council can work outside it without the shop losing a days usiness etc,etc

whenever work is done round here, letter drops are done to houses its going to affect, local shops and lamposts local to where work is being done
#19
sassie
dont wish to appear rude, but you sure letter didnt arrive and was flung with junk mail, the times for works are usually 8pm and as sadi never usually on a sunday unless the conditions warrant it, maybe shop is only shut on a sunday, therefore meaning the council can work outside it without the shop losing a days usiness etc,etc

whenever work is done round here, letter drops are done to houses its going to affect, local shops and lamposts local to where work is being done


No, had no junk mail at all :thumbsup:

Shop is open 7am til 10pm every day and only closed on Christmas Day!

As for the work they're doing - they did nothing Friday or Saturday but decide to come today at 6am.

There is nothing on the lamposts and definitely nothing through my letter box at all, not even an invite to the works consultation:thumbsup:
banned 1 Like #20
then i would imagine the shop owner only gave permission for works to be done on a sunday, probably due to it being their slowest day, give the council a ring tomorrow and speak to them, although im not sure your going to get anywhere, but it aint really the workmens fault as they just doing what they get paid for, although being rude is out of order, but then again i suppose it depends what you said, had it been me at 6am going out to them i can assure you my attitide would be far worse than theirs, anyway its only one day out of your life hun, go for a nice bath and an early night tonight x
#21
sassie
then i would imagine the shop owner only gave permission for works to be done on a sunday, probably due to it being their slowest day, give the council a ring tomorrow and speak to them, although im not sure your going to get anywhere, but it aint really the workmens fault as they just doing what they get paid for, although being rude is out of order, but then again i suppose it depends what you said, had it been me at 6am going out to them i can assure you my attitide would be far worse than theirs, anyway its only one day out of your life hun, go for a nice bath and an early night tonight x


I can see that as being a reasonable explanation but 6am is awful! All I said was 'Excuse me it's 6am - You've just woken me and my child up'...Perhaps that could have been taken the wrong way who knows. He just told me to call the police ha!

Yes it's one day, one day I would have enjoyed a lie in but hey never mind thanks sassie :):thumbsup:
#22
Titchimp
Pretty sure its 7am ?


Local bye-law therefore different in different locations.
#23
sassie
then i would imagine the shop owner only gave permission for works to be done on a sunday, probably due to it being their slowest day, give the council a ring tomorrow and speak to them, although im not sure your going to get anywhere, but it aint really the workmens fault as they just doing what they get paid for, although being rude is out of order, but then again i suppose it depends what you said, had it been me at 6am going out to them i can assure you my attitide would be far worse than theirs, anyway its only one day out of your life hun, go for a nice bath and an early night tonight x


The shop owner doesn't have much say in whether the works should be undertaken on a Sunday however, it's Statute Law that underpins that.

It's bizarre they should even attempt the works on a Sunday, usually only for emergency repairs, as the workers are given extra pay.

The Council's Environmental Health Department should have an on-call EHO to deal with such matters, the one I'm employed by certainly does, as I've been on-call since Wednesday.
#24
moob
The shop owner doesn't have much say in whether the works should be undertaken on a Sunday however, it's Statute Law that underpins that.

It's bizarre they should even attempt the works on a Sunday, usually only for emergency repairs, as the workers are given extra pay.

The Council's Environmental Health Department should have an on-call EHO to deal with such matters, the one I'm employed by certainly does, as I've been on-call since Wednesday.


I will still call the council first thing and find out why, I am less annoyed now but still it's the principal of it. it definitely wasn't 'emergency' repairs:thumbsup:
#25
Titchimp
Pretty sure its 7am ?


You're probably right.
1 Like #26
Titchimp
Pretty sure its 7am ?


it's 7am -11pm...probabbly just confused the 11pm with am :)
#27
xsazzyjayx
I will still call the council first thing and find out why, I am less annoyed now but still it's the principal of it. it definitely wasn't 'emergency' repairs:thumbsup:


You should call them out now - at least they can witness what's happening and deal with the Roads Department on Monday.

You should have a 24/7 helpdesk at the Council to put you through to the EHO.
#28
moob
You should call them out now - at least they can witness what's happening and deal with the Roads Department on Monday.

You should have a 24/7 helpdesk at the Council to put you through to the EHO.


They left just short of 11am, I tried all numbers I could find for the council (their website strategically went down too!) and only got recorded messages. Thanks for your help and I will update once I've called tomorrow
:thumbsup:
1 Like #29
Most rules will be included in planning permission and where people mention construction sites, this will be what this eludes to, not highways maintenance. I am not sure what times pavement maintenance can occur, but the usual rule for this sort of thing would be to avoid Sunday.
#30
pghstochaj
Most rules will be included in planning permission and where people mention construction sites, this will be what this eludes to, not highways maintenance. I am not sure what times pavement maintenance can occur, but the usual rule for this sort of thing would be to avoid Sunday.


It doesn't have to be included in planning consent for it to be enforced however. Highway, or pavement maintenance can be included in the provisions of COPA 1974 Sec 60.

The Council above all should know and ensure they adhere to the Law.
#31
Have rang up this morning, it seems noone has a clue what they're doing!

I have to wait for someone who 'knows what they're doing' to ring me later today!!
#32
Someone who seemed to know what he was talking about has rang me back.

In fact he was quite polite and did sympathise with the situation. It's looking like the person who did the letter drop has been confused by my front door, everyone elses is directly on the front street, whereas mine is slightly round the corner (but has no letterbox). Some delivery companies have often just taped calling cards to this door (VERY safe!) without realising actually have a fully functional door just seconds to the left. So maybe the letter was wedged in somewhere hence me not receiving it. Easy mistake to make I suppose.

He seemed to sympathise about the 6am but as someone rightly said - this was the only time the shop had agreed to the work. Seems complete daftness not to work Friday or Saturday but start at 6am Sunday (more than likely on higher wage!).

As for the land issue, it's going to be looked at again as the wording in the deeds I hold is contradicting as it only mentions the front and side road as adopted highway by the council.

It seems that despite me calling 3 weeks ago now to complain, things only took a step to being sorted late last week!

Hopefully, I will get full answers later on today and hopefully no more interupted sunday mornings! :)
banned#33
If they are trying to cut paving slabs with a chain saw they'll be there for ever!!
#34
goldmax
If they are trying to cut paving slabs with a chain saw they'll be there for ever!!


Perhaps wrong word used?

It's a circular saw of somesort, makes some serious noise!!
banned#35
xsazzyjayx
Perhaps wrong word used?

It's a circular saw of somesort, makes some serious noise!!


Disk cutter,

oh and is the 'tractor' a jcb digger by any chance??
#36
goldmax
Disk cutter,

oh and is the 'tractor' a jcb digger by any chance??


Haha, perhaps it is....I may be dense but I thought JCBs were yellow!:whistling:
#37
i have been woken this morning with scaffolders erecting right outside my front door, no prior warning or anything im a little peeved to say the least! the woman directly above is having some kind of work done which is fair enough but there should be some prior warning man!

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