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My friend has just phoned me in hysterics , she was walking in the park this afternoon with her two young kids of 8 and 5 with there 2 yr old labrador ( Who was on a leash } and suddenly out of nowher… Read More
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My friend has just phoned me in hysterics , she was walking in the park this afternoon with her two young kids of 8 and 5 with there 2 yr old labrador ( Who was on a leash } and suddenly out of nowhere a pitbull went for the labs throat , apparantley the kids were screaming and went to help there dog and it almost got her youngests face , so my friend had no other option than to let go of the lead , the pitbull then dragged the lab by the jaw into some bushes !! He has bad cuts to his jaw, throat and paws and the kids are traumitised ( no wonder ) and said they are no longer going to walk the dog again !!
I have told her to report this person as she does see him osccassionally at the park ( p-head junkie ) by the sounds of things !!
But who exactly should she report him to , police , rspca ? and as she doesnt have a name just location will they act on it ?
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Report to the Police as it's a dangerous/vicious dog.
banned#2
Pit bull? Chav owner for sure!
banned 1 Like #3
Deffo report to the police. Its happened once, it'll happen again.... maybe even to your poor dog.

What did he say afterwards?
#4
[quote=Syzable]Report to the Police as it's a dangerous/vicious dog.[/quote

She phoned the police but she said they seemed a bit ''oh okay ; will keep a look out !!
Which is not good enough , she told them were it happened and they basically said they have had no other reports oO
1 Like #5
Hope the kids and dog are ok. Are pup was attacked not long ago, didn't take her too long to get over it.

Report the dog to the police ASAP
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[quote=Syzable]Report to the Police as it's a dangerous/vicious dog.[/quote

She phoned the police but she said they seemed a bit ''oh okay ; will keep a look out !!
Which is not good enough , she told them were it happened and they basically said they have had no other reports oO


Go in to the station (your friend) and demand to speak to the Sergeant in charge. On the phone you just get a civilian who'll stick it in a list with about 5000 other reports.
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guv
Deffo report to the police. Its happened once, it'll happen again.... maybe even to your poor dog.What did he say afterwards?


Apparantley as the dog ran towards them he shouted /slurred '' dont worry , he wont harm you '' ....seconds later he had the labs jaws locked in his mouth ragging him everywhere , kids going hysterical , and i think at the end my friend was more concerned about kids and dog that she didny take much notice or whar the **** said .
#8
Id of called them then and there once at a safe distance
banned 1 Like #9
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guv
Deffo report to the police. Its happened once, it'll happen again.... maybe even to your poor dog.What did he say afterwards?
Apparantley as the dog ran towards them he shouted /slurred '' dont worry , he wont harm you '' ....seconds later he had the labs jaws locked in his mouth ragging him everywhere , kids going hysterical , and i think at the end my friend was more concerned about kids and dog that she didny take much notice or whar the **** said .

Dont let it drop..... Sy is correct that over the phone they cant be bothered. She needs to go in. Shame she doesnt know where he lives!
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Syzable
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[quote=Syzable]Report to the Police as it's a dangerous/vicious dog.[/quoteShe phoned the police but she said they seemed a bit ''oh okay ; will keep a look out !!Which is not good enough , she told them were it happened and they basically said they have had no other reports oO
Go in to the station (your friend) and demand to speak to the Sergeant in charge. On the phone you just get a civilian who'll stick it in a list with about 5000 other reports.




Thanks sy , will tell her to do that , she is just so shook up at the moment and the kids are hysterical and the poor dog is sitting licking his wounds , she couldnt get to the police station so she rang them and just feels a bit dis heartened with there response .
2 Likes #11
id go out on the hunt with something heavy for clubbing skulls.

Edited By: shanecr on Mar 05, 2011 16:58
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Take photos of the dogs injuries and get in touch with the dog warden at the local council.

I don't think she should let it drop - I know it doesn't help your friend and her dog much, but it could so easily be someones child that it goes for next time.


Edited By: Butterbean on Mar 05, 2011 17:03
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Syzable
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[quote=Syzable]Report to the Police as it's a dangerous/vicious dog.[/quoteShe phoned the police but she said they seemed a bit ''oh okay ; will keep a look out !!Which is not good enough , she told them were it happened and they basically said they have had no other reports oO
Go in to the station (your friend) and demand to speak to the Sergeant in charge. On the phone you just get a civilian who'll stick it in a list with about 5000 other reports.





Thanks sy , will tell her to do that , she is just so shook up at the moment and the kids are hysterical and the poor dog is sitting licking his wounds , she couldnt get to the police station so she rang them and just feels a bit dis heartened with there response .


I don't blame her. It's awful. Hopefully the dog will be ok.....she needs to get him to the vet as dog bites can be poisonous and give him a blood infection so they'll need to give him a shot. Thank god the kids weren't attacked. xx
#14
shamus1975
Id of called them then and there once at a safe distance


Think she may of done but at the time her dog was covered in blood , kids were hysterical also she says there was 3 of them on a bench drinking cans so just wanted to get home .
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As traumatic as it is for your poor dog to have been attacked it would not have been a "pitbull" as they have been banned for a considerable number of years, it was more likely a staff/cross.

I cannot wait for the new legislation to come into force so suddenly it won't matter the dogs breed what will matter will be whose dog was out of control! Sad that your dog got attacked by some idiot's dog HOWEVER it isn't the breed it is the damn owner that caused this and the new law will tackle this EXACT problem.

As for the **** in this thread who said "pitbull must be owned by a chav" I'm not a chav and I own a staff bull terrier, it doesn't attack anything BUT the number of people's dogs who come and have a go at him and then these **** say "must be your dogs fault it's a pitbull"

Roll on the new law so these idiots can finally be taken to court :P
#16
Section 3(1) Dangerous Dogs Act 1991
This part of the Dangerous Dogs Act applies to every single dog in England & Wales, no matter whether it is a pure bred dog, cross or a mongrel and regardless of its size.



This is a criminal offence which can be brought against the owner of a dog (and if different the person in charge of a dog) if a dog is:

dangerously out of control
in a public place
'Dangerously out of control' is defined as being 'on any occasion on which there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that it will injure any person'. Generally, if a dog bites someone then it will be presumed to have been dangerously out of control.


'Public place' is defined as including any place 'to which the public have or are permitted to have access'.



The Police have the discretionary power to seize a dog (although they may need a warrant) but there is no provision for 'bail' for the dog pending a conclusion at Court.



If injury is caused to a person, then there is a presumption in favour of destruction of the dog unless the owner can prove that the dog would not constitute a danger to public safety. If the Court can be persuaded not to impose destruction, then the alternative is a Contingent Destruction Order ie. a requirement that unless the dog is kept under proper control then it shall be destroyed. The Court has the power to impose conditions to such an order.



For the owner and/or person in charge of the dog at the time of the incident the Court has the power to impose a prison sentence as well as a ban on keeping dogs. However, this is very rare and the more likely outcome is financial ie. a fine, compensation and costs.
#17
Section 2 Dogs Act 1871
This is a civil complaint, although as it is heard in a Magistrates' Court, it is often (wrongly) said to be criminal. It occurs if a dog is not kept under proper control and is dangerous. Generally is dog is regarded as not being under proper control if it is neither on a lead nor muzzled.



Unlike Section 3 of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991:

it applies regardless of where the incident takes place
proceedings can only be brought against the owner
a dog can show itself to be dangerous in its general behaviour, not just its behaviour towards a person
a single incident is generally insufficient to prove that a dog is dangerous, unless the Court believes that the single incident is exceptional
there is no presumption in favour of destruction of the dog
the Police have no power to seize a dog pending proceedings
the Court has no power to fine or order compensation
The Court has unfettered discretion on what to do to the dog. They may order destruction of the dog but such orders are very rare. The alternative is a Control Order (with or without conditions) and the owner will probably have to pay costs.
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it's getting to the point now where dog owners need to carry weapons with them when out walkign their pets incase this kind of thing happens, it could have so easily been one of the children that the pitbull went for and the owner needs prosecuting.

Go into the police and report it in person, also get the rspca involved as well the more the merrier.
#19
Butterbean
Take photos of the dogs injuries and get in touch with the dog warden at the local council.


Ive told her to take photos , she has only just been able to establish were the injuries are , as there was so much blood , plus trying to calm the kids and her hubbys at work , shes distraught !
#20
Take her dog to the vets and get it checked is my advice and try to reassure kids as they are probably in shock.
1 Like #21
guv
Deffo report to the police. Its happened once, it'll happen again.... maybe even to your poor dog.

What did he say afterwards?


Or worse, her kids.
#22
Ive told her to take him the vets as he could get infection etc ( annoying as more expense for them !! ) just spoke to her and kids are still crying :(.......her main concern is how to get this horrible dog off the streets /parks
#23
pontprennau
As traumatic as it is for your poor dog to have been attacked it would not have been a "pitbull" as they have been banned for a considerable number of years, it was more likely a staff/cross.I cannot wait for the new legislation to come into force so suddenly it won't matter the dogs breed what will matter will be whose dog was out of control! Sad that your dog got attacked by some idiot's dog HOWEVER it isn't the breed it is the damn owner that caused this and the new law will tackle this EXACT problem.As for the **** in this thread who said "pitbull must be owned by a chav" I'm not a chav and I own a staff bull terrier, it doesn't attack anything BUT the number of people's dogs who come and have a go at him and then these **** say "must be your dogs fault it's a pitbull"Roll on the new law so these idiots can finally be taken to court :P


May not of been a 'pitbull' exactly , but in her hysteria on the phone she described it as a ''pitbull looking dog '' ..............and i agree , no dogs a bad no matter the breed , its the pathetic owners that make a dog a 'bad dog '
banned#24
from a perspective of dealing with dogs dangerously out of control, report the incident to the police

Edited By: dog_cop on Mar 05, 2011 17:27
#25
dog_cop
from a perspective of dealing with dogs dangerously out of control, report the incident to the police


She did d_c , but they didnt seem interested over the phone , maybe when things calm down , she will go tomorrow ( with pics etc ) to a local station and they may take more notice .
banned 4 Likes #26
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dog_cop
from a perspective of dealing with dogs dangerously out of control, report the incident to the police



She did d_c , but they didnt seem interested over the phone , maybe when things calm down , she will go tomorrow ( with pics etc ) to a local station and they may take more notice .


ok this is quite important, did they actually take a crime or report of the incident? and if not why not? also you say they were not interested, in what respect ?
I strongly advise if they( the person) who took the report is not interested, that your mate rings back and asks to speak to the Duty Sergeant and make a formal complaint , and ask why the report was not taken seriously.
In recent years incident like this have lead to injuries to people and kids and if we the police had taken proper action in the first place injuries might not have happened

Also before we get the " the police dont care" you might find the person who answered the phone is a member of staff/ call handler, and not a police officer.

If the friends dog needs vet treatment the owner of the other dog has a responsibility to furnish their name and address so that any costs can be recovered from them, plus obviously id there are criminal offences , the police can knock on a door..


Under no circumstances can this be swept under the carpet and ignored tonight, even if the police make an appointment to see your mate at least the ball is rolling

Edited By: dog_cop on Mar 05, 2011 17:47: world domination
3 Likes #27
Photos, Vet, Police report. All of these things will make it more likely but not definite that a prosecution can be brought.

You (or your friend) must get this logged officially. I can fully appreciate the shock levels the family must be undergoing but they must act while the event is still fresh in everyones minds in order that the most reliable statements can be taken.


Oh yeah, the council as well as the park is council property and at least in theory they should be responsible for the safety of the residents who use the park. That could include restrictions on who can use the park - ie the person with the out of control dog..



Edited By: WoolyM on Mar 05, 2011 17:59: .
1 Like #28
Bad times, sounds horrible, hope the kiddies get over it :(
#29
^^^ thanks d_c for that info , i spoke to her before and she and the kids still in shock , as i said she phoned the police earlier but maybe tomorrow when she has calmed down a little and has photos etc and goes to a local station , then she may get more of a result !.
suspended 1 Like #30
Oh no, were i am from there are alot of 'pitbull' type breeds and no way are they are staffs as they are huge. I get very worried about dogs just being let run alone and the owner obviously isnt looking. I dont care if they say oh dont worry it wont hurt you, it only take once and i would rather be safe than sorry esp when it is my kids.

When my girl was a week old my mum came down and we walked to the park with my newborn, while we was there i was holding my little one when a massive rottwhiler and a 'pitbull' tye dog came up snarling so i put her back in the pram and they started circling the pram teeth bearing and all. A man said ' oh dont worry they wont do no harm' well i went ballistic at the man to which he told my boyfriend' you should put a mizzle on your misses' :(

my little rant lol

Edited By: Tinkytayls on Mar 05, 2011 17:53
#31
nikkib123
Bad times, sounds horrible, hope the kiddies get over it :(


Poor kids are still crying :(..........said they are never letting Raffa ( thats the lab ) out for a walk again , poor raffa is still lying in his bed licking his wounds and my friend is waiting for her oh to come home from work to see if he needs the vets !......Thank god my friend let go of th lead as she reckonrd if she hadnt it would of ripped her youngests face off oO
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nikkib123
Bad times, sounds horrible, hope the kiddies get over it :(



Poor kids are still crying :(..........said they are never letting Raffa ( thats the lab ) out for a walk again , poor raffa is still lying in his bed licking his wounds and my friend is waiting for her oh to come home from work to see if he needs the vets !......Thank god my friend let go of th lead as she reckonrd if she hadnt it would of ripped her youngests face off oO


Bet she is in shock, will probably hit her later, poor thing. There are some right idiots out there and unfortunately some of them own animals!
2 Likes #33
Tinkytayls
Oh no, were i am from there are alot of 'pitbull' type breeds and no way are they are staffs as they are huge. I get very worried about dogs just being let run alone and the owner obviously isnt looking. I dont care if they say oh dont worry it wont hurt you, it only take once and i would rather be safe than sorry esp when it is my kids.When my girl was a week old my mum came down and we walked to the park with my newborn, while we was there i was holding my little one when a massive rottwhiler and a 'pitbull' tye dog came up snarling so i put her back in the pram and they started circling the pram teeth bearing and all. A man said ' oh dont worry they wont do no harm' well i went ballistic at the man to which he told my boyfriend' you should put a mizzle on your misses' :(my little rant lol



I agree, NO dog is reliable , unpreditable , no matter the breed , how they are brought up is everything , but even so EVERY ANIMAL is unpredictable !!
2 Likes #34
I fully understand that extra costs are particularly unwelcome in a time when everybodys budgets are being stretched but the vet could help strengthen a possible prosecution.
1 Like #35
in my old street there was a guy across the road who was breeding " staff " type dogs, he had 13 dogs and one bitch, they were never walked, never checked by a vet, RSPCA went and checked the house you could see his kids jumping fences when they knocked the door.
Just before we moved the bitch got out and starting fighting with other dogs in the street, his kids trying to stop her, in the end the bitch ripped apart a kitten, with a street full of kids screaming and the owner shouting the odds that the kitten shouldnt have been out. i have found out now that they are pitbulls, real pitbulls, hes had 3 taken off him and destroyed but hes hiding the rest, he bloody breeds them so theres hundreds of them out there.
op i hope your friend and her kids get over it personally i dont think i could, hopefully the dog will be fine once checked by the vet.
Tell your friend not to give up with the police, is she cant get over there do as dog cop said and ask for an crime number and an appointment to see the chief. or demand they come out. i would be.
Let us know hows things go
#36
^^^^^thanks , will do , just going to phone her now .
2 Likes #37
really hope ur friends dog will be ok,as for the kids thats gonna be hard to win them round to go back out again might take along time,i hope they aint to traumatised by this all,fingers crossed for them all.
1 Like #38
Two Christmas days ago my poor dog was savaged by two rotties left outside our village shop - not tied up - just left. Christmas night vet advised us best thing would be to put her to sleep. Can you just imagine how devastated we all were - anyway I couldnt let them do it. I was in bits and begged vet to treat her and she is still with us now - albeit has bad arthritis but she is just fine. I actually still fill up when I talk about that day - was terrifying and heartbreaking.

Police were called but the owner got friends to lie and said dogs were secured and they had broken free. Liar. Karma played a hand last year when one of them attacked his partner - it was put down and he is also in prison for his part in a robbery.

I honestly didnt think police were bothered
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100% agree with this, staffs are onky over more recent times auto added the '' chav name '' only hing about the pitbull is i can 100% for sure say these are still about and a lot more then realise, i have a freind who works for battersea and they see pure pitbulls often and a lot of dogs that are mixed etc

pontprennau
As traumatic as it is for your poor dog to have been attacked it would not have been a "pitbull" as they have been banned for a considerable number of years, it was more likely a staff/cross.

I cannot wait for the new legislation to come into force so suddenly it won't matter the dogs breed what will matter will be whose dog was out of control! Sad that your dog got attacked by some idiot's dog HOWEVER it isn't the breed it is the damn owner that caused this and the new law will tackle this EXACT problem.

As for the **** in this thread who said "pitbull must be owned by a chav" I'm not a chav and I own a staff bull terrier, it doesn't attack anything BUT the number of people's dogs who come and have a go at him and then these **** say "must be your dogs fault it's a pitbull"

Roll on the new law so these idiots can finally be taken to court :P
2 Likes #40
Hope the drunk gets his come uppance.....

Report it to the police and rspca, see the local dog warden aswell. They will do things about it. In my parents local park there was persistant people who would let the dog foul, so they kept fining them. Dangerous dogs get looked at closely.....

As someone said any dog could have a dangerous streak, but it is down more to how they are bred and their upbringing. Just wish irresponsible owners would be banned from keeping any sort of pet if they cant look after it let alone themselves.....

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