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dog bite through letterbox

shanecr Avatar
6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
Curious.

Our dog is very protective, he's not big but has a heck of a bark. It seems he has come close to catching the fingers of some church do gooder stuffing their leaflet through the door, my oh is concerned he might actually catch someone and we could suffer some kind of complaint. i on the other hand, am not concerned, if someone is stupid enough to stick their fingers through its their own darn fault....right?
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6y, 9m agoPosted 6 years, 9 months ago
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#1
No you dont want to risk anything! why dont you get a letter cage.
#2
nope its your responsiblity...your dog, your home, your property.

Id put a sign on your front door, saying please to not stick hands/fingers through the door due to door is playful!
#3
I think you could get in hot water.

If you can't/don't want to teach your dog to stop the behaviour, then get a post box.
1 Like #4
Sue their fingers for trespassing.
[mod] 1 Like #5
If someone complains that your dog bit them.............deny it and tell them it was you. :-D

p.s - I take no responsiblity if they have you put down. ;-)
#6
Remove your dogs teeth !

simples:thumbsup:
#7
hmm, interesting. Both of my dogs would eat someone's hand if they actually saw a hand come through our letterbox.

It never occured to me that I could get in trouble for it.... Strange times we live in
#8
Your suppose to display a sign saying you have a dog in all circumstances, friendly or not. Dog lives here, beware of the dog etc etc it covers you ass with trespassers.
#9
Lulu'sMammy
Your suppose to display a sign saying you have a dog in all circumstances, friendly or not. Dog lives here, beware of the dog etc etc it covers you ass with trespassers.


Really? got any more info on that?
banned#10
Warning, my letterbox might eat you sign in need
#11
Lulu'sMammy
Your suppose to display a sign saying you have a dog in all circumstances, friendly or not. Dog lives here, beware of the dog etc etc it covers you ass with trespassers.


Someone going about their lawful business is not a trespasser.
i.e a postman.
#12
if i was stickin something through a letter box and a dog bit my hand (in a non playfull way) i do my best to get the thing put down


cant you tell im not an animal lover :lol:
banned#13
encourage any doo gooders to stick their fingers through your letter box .. should be good for a laugh ....



only here for the Jakes:w00t:
[mod]#14
No it is not their fault. A letter box is for people to post letters through.

As you are aware of a danger at your property it is entirely your responsibility to ensure you take action to minimise the risks. You would be negligent to not do anything about it.
#15
Goonieman;8010619
Really? got any more info on that?

11 years of working in the dog profession ;-)

Q: Can posting a "Beware of Dog" sign help to offset any liability if the dog bites?
[LIST]
[*][SIZE=3]A: [/SIZE]Possibly. The sign can help to alert others of the presence of the dog. But if an attack occurs, the specific facts will determine whether there is any liability.[/LIST]
banned#16
micoo
if i was stickin something through a letter box and a dog bit..........


Then you should keep it zipped up! :w00t:
[mod]#17
thesaint
Someone going about their lawful business is not a trespasser.
i.e a postman.


This.

They have an implied permission to be on the land for the purposes of their job. If they were to post their letter and then kick over your prize winning daffodils they become trespassers from the very moment that they stepped on to your property.
#18
Law and ‘Beware of the Dog’ Signs

The law takes a peculiar stance when it comes to the use of ‘beware of the dog’ signs.


If such a sign is on display when the dog attacks a trespasser, then its owner is liable for prosecution, because it could be argued that by displaying the sign they knew the dog was dangerous. However, if the dog attacks an intruder when no sign is visible then the court would decree that the owner was unaware of the threat of the animal, and is therefore not liable for court action.

So for those considering a sign, according to the law if you have a harmless pet dog then by all means display a ‘beware of the dog’ sign as a deterrent, but if you have a dog that would be liable to attack an intruder then don’t, as you might get into trouble
[mod]#19
Lulu'sMammy
11 years of working in the dog profession ;-)

Q: Can posting a "Beware of Dog" sign help to offset any liability if the dog bites?
[LIST]
[*][SIZE=3]A: [/SIZE]Possibly. The sign can help to alert others of the presence of the dog. But if an attack occurs, the specific facts will determine whether there is any liability.[/LIST]


Possibly is the most important thing here. Possibly is more no than yes.
#20
thesaint;8010645
Someone going about their lawful business is not a trespasser.
i.e a postman.

I didn't say the blimming postie was a trespasser.....trespasser as in people who ain't suppose to be there!
#21
Syzable
If someone complains that your dog bit them.............deny it and tell them it was you.

p.s - I take no responsiblity if they have you put down. ;-)


:w00t:

:p

Lulu'sMammy
Your suppose to display a sign saying you have a dog in all circumstances, friendly or not. Dog lives here, beware of the dog etc etc it covers you ass with trespassers.


i thought the barking would be sign enough, but i shall get a sign anyway :thumbsup:

thesaint
Someone going about their lawful business is not a trespasser.
i.e a postman.


our postman is fine, the dog loves him. though fingers do not need to be shoved through our letterbox to post a leaflet surely??

dog_cop
encourage any doo gooders to stick their fingers through your letter box .. should be good for a laugh ....



only here for the Jakes


Hoped for better info from you lol

Lulu'sMammy
11 years of working in the dog profession ;-)

Q: Can posting a "Beware of Dog" sign help to offset any liability if the dog bites?
[LIST]
[*][SIZE=3]A: [/SIZE]Possibly. The sign can help to alert others of the presence of the dog. But if an attack occurs, the specific facts will determine whether there is any liability.[/LIST]


will pick one up tomorrow
#22
Lulu'sMammy
Your suppose to display a sign saying you have a dog in all circumstances, friendly or not. Dog lives here, beware of the dog etc etc it covers you ass with trespassers.


That is total nonsense
[mod]#23
whatsThePoint
found this on another forum
"I spoke to Police about what would happen and who would be responsible and they advised that if someone puts their hand through the letterbox without being invited to do so [?] it could amount to trespass and the dog is only doing its 'job' - i.e. protect the house. I now have an arrangement with the postman that letters may be left on a windowsill and I try to be observant when he calls. All other leaflet depositors are warned by a 'I live here!' card attached to the window. The Police are satisfied that I have warned people and that they then choose to enter my land/home with the understanding that a dog is present and have therefore accepted any consequences. This is what I was told."


I am sorry but that is utter nonsense. A dog is only doing its job?!? A dogs job is to nip at someones hand!!

If you believe that your dog is a danger to the public then you are still liable.

That is fundamental and contained under Section 1 of the Occupiers Liability Act 1984.
#24
shanecr

i thought the barking would be sign enough, but i shall get a sign anyway :thumbsup:


what about if you are deaf?
banned#25
awoodhall2003;8010779
what about if you are deaf?

speak up I cant hear you :-D
#26
Lulu'sMammy
Law and ‘Beware of the Dog’ Signs

The law takes a peculiar stance when it comes to the use of ‘beware of the dog’ signs.


If such a sign is on display when the dog attacks a trespasser, then its owner is liable for prosecution, because it could be argued that by displaying the sign they knew the dog was dangerous. However, if the dog attacks an intruder when no sign is visible then the court would decree that the owner was unaware of the threat of the animal, and is therefore not liable for court action.

So for those considering a sign, according to the law if you have a harmless pet dog then by all means display a ‘beware of the dog’ sign as a deterrent, but if you have a dog that would be liable to attack an intruder then don’t, as you might get into trouble


whatsThePoint
found this on another forum
"I spoke to Police about what would happen and who would be responsible and they advised that if someone puts their hand through the letterbox without being invited to do so [?] it could amount to trespass and the dog is only doing its 'job' - i.e. protect the house. I now have an arrangement with the postman that letters may be left on a windowsill and I try to be observant when he calls. All other leaflet depositors are warned by a 'I live here!' card attached to the window. The Police are satisfied that I have warned people and that they then choose to enter my land/home with the understanding that a dog is present and have therefore accepted any consequences. This is what I was told."





2 very interesting bits of information. i think actually i will get a sign for no unsolicited mail now instead. like i said, our postman has no problem, in fact our dog actually cries to see him to say hello.
#27
awoodhall2003
what about if you are deaf?


dog_cop
speak up I cant hear you :-D


pardon?
banned#28
shanecr;8010806
pardon?

err about 11:30
#29
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/shanecr/DSC01623.jpg
#30
karagh;8010764
That is total nonsense

Oh really....get explaining then, and i like facts. :thumbsup:
#31
dog_cop
err about 11:30



that be £5
1 Like #32
Our dog is very protective, he's not big but has a heck of a bark. It seems he has come close to catching the fingers of some church do gooder stuffing their leaflet through the door, my oh is concerned he might actually catch someone and we could suffer some kind of complaint. [SIZE="3"]i on the other hand[/SIZE], am not concerned, if someone is stupid enough to stick their fingers through its their own darn fault....right?


Why did he bite your other hand off???? :w00t:


Think i better Exit? :whistling:
#33
shanecr






our postman is fine, the dog loves him. though fingers do not need to be shoved through our letterbox to post a leaflet surely??





If you have those draft excluders on your letterbox or a double flap letter box then U usually have to push leaflets through by putting your hand in as they bend to easily.
#34
Not surprised he's a nipper! Its a terrier (cross i believe?)
#35
Naeem786
Why did he bite your other hand off???? :w00t:


Think i better Exit? :whistling:


lmao, rep for that one :-D
banned#36
Lulu'sMammy;8010845
Not surprised he's a nipper! Its a terrier (cross i believe?)

cross... he was well annoyed :w00t:
[mod]#37
whatsThePoint
No its not, we were advised to get one by the police to cover ourselves after the dobie attack mentioned earlier


It is nonsense. Such a sign will not absolve yourself from responsibility if you have something on your property that you consider dangerous.

With that in mind, does that mean you can have a sign on your house saying "Beware of the barbwire"...no.

The correct precaution to take would be to install a letter drop.
#38
Personally, i'd get the dog sign (may as well for a quid!!) Then i'd also get the letter cage. Job done.
#39
dog_cop
speak up I cant hear you :-D


shanecr
pardon?


I said deaf, nothing to do with typing :p:p
#40
milewide
If you have those draft excluders on your letterbox or a double flap letter box then U usually have to push leaflets through by putting your hand in as they bend to easily.


he removed that years ago lol

Lulu'sMammy
Not surprised he's a nipper! Its a terrier (cross i believe?)


he is, jack russel and yorkie terrier

whatsThePoint
I would get the dog warning sign
a no unsolicited mail sign would not cover you for a dog attack on someone who choose to ignore your sign


i'll get both

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