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[mod] 6y, 19h agoPosted 6 years, 19 hours ago
When we moved in to this house it was not glazed at the back. Today we have lined up 6 businesses to give us quotes.

The first was laughable...

They made us watch a DVD on how windows were made and then told me that I was not intelligent as I would not accept their quote.

3 small windows and a door? - £4586.11
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[mod] 6y, 19h agoPosted 6 years, 19 hours ago
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banned#1
Holy hell :|. My parents 2 bed had 11 windows and 2 doors done for more than half of that.


I hope that video showed leprechauns pouring gold into a huge smelting pot, then into windowframe moulds ¬_¬
#2
My bay window cost me £1500 and that was thru a friend of a friend (_;)
#3
Was the company a well known one OP?
banned 1 Like #4
I love this site:-

http://www.mybuilder.com/

We got CH and a boiler fitted in 1 day for £2050 :)
[mod]#5
Hey all. Just had someone else quote. £1340. It seems the more we get the cheaper it becomes!
[mod]#6
deb8z
Was the company a well known one OP?


Europlas!
#7
Anglian are the best in my opinion.
[mod]#8
Lofty124
Anglian are the best in my opinion.


They quoted us second. They were alright. Certainly not the cheapest but their products looked good.
#9
i did exactly the same, get lots of quotes -- our quotes ranged by thousands! LOL Laughable.
#10
If you do a bit of research on double glazing and ignore the sales talk, there is a huge difference in the quality of some of the products on offer.

What you pay for is usually what you end up getting though,
[mod]#11
karaokecolin
If you do a bit of research on double glazing and ignore the sales talk, there is a huge difference in the quality of some of the products on offer.

What you pay for is usually what you end up getting though,


Trust me, I have today seen the same set of windows at least 3 times and the range of price is from £1310 to £4000+.
banned#12
We got ours done a few years ago. They started at about £16,000 "but we wont charge you that" and came down eventiually to £6.5K.... Several came in at that and just below

I just had 4 quotes. Every few days, They'd ring and knock more and more off.

Annoyingly, my missus "liked" a local fitter, though his price wasnt the cheapest, he was very local and was going to do some extra work for £5K It all seemed very convenient..... Anglican dropped their price down to the cheapest at £4,200 - but my neighbour said she thought the people over the road were messed about by them. I didnt get to speak to them until after id agreed the deal....... And my neighbours got it wrong... they said they'd done a great job! Doh!

In the meantime, I had to contact our fitter 2 years later, only to find the git had left the country (to Spain) and the taman on his case. That glazing federation wont help you out either (despite the claim they do) and fortunately the I managed to solve the problem myself (Hinges and expansion in the summer)

So big companies can fold...... but local fitters can disappear! Bare in mind..... and just keep them on hold and they will continue to drop their price.

(10 windows, front door and French doors before you ask about 6 years ago)


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Edited By: guv on Dec 03, 2010 20:23
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guv
We got ours done a few years ago. They started at about £16,000 "but we wont charge you that" and came down eventiually to £6.5K.... Several came in at that and just below

I just had 4 quotes. Every few days, They'd ring and knock more and more off.

Annoyingly, my missus "liked" a local fitter, though his price wasnt the cheapest, he was very local and was going to do some extra work for £5K It all seemed very convenient..... Anglican dropped their price down to the cheapest at £4,200 - but my neighbour said she thought the people over the road were messed about by them. I didnt get to speak to them until after id agreed the deal....... And my neighbours got it wrong... they said they'd done a great job! Doh!

In the meantime, I had to contact our fitter 2 years later, only to find the git had left the country (to Spain) and the taman on his case. That glazing federation wont help you out either (despite the claim they do) and fortunately the I managed to solve the problem myself (Hinges and expansion in the summer)

So big companies can fold...... but local fitters can disappear! Bare in mind..... and just keep them on hold and they will continue to drop their price.

(10 windows, front door and French doors before you ask about 6 years ago)


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Cheers Guv. I have told them that I will call them by tonight in the hope that they will call over the weekend or on Monday to drop their price.

It was hilarious that the first chap told me that I was not intelligent for declining their quote. What an idiot!
banned#14
When i had mine done 2 years ago, one place came in at £23k for 10 windows
£10k of that was for just one window

Everest were a joke as well
They eventually matched the people i said i was going with for the cost of the windows but then threw any chance away big time with the cost of extras
A few small jobs needed doing which the chosen company had quoted £300 in total
Everest only got as far as giving a price for first small job which was to remove 4 layers of bricks about 4ft wide so that window could be returned to original size
Everest price £600 or roughly £30 a brick oO
banned#15
magicjay1986

Cheers Guv. I have told them that I will call them by tonight in the hope that they will call over the weekend or on Monday to drop their price.

It was hilarious that the first chap told me that I was not intelligent for declining their quote. What an idiot!


Indeed.... they got quite narked with me for not taking their "offer" despite telling them I was not making a deision and looking at more quotes.

Tip: Dont call them. They will call you (serious) They will NOT let a lead fall to the side. When they call, tell them you've had a reduction from one of the competiors and looking at what youve said "3 small windows and a door" It wont be more than £1500 - probably a little less if youre cheeky enough. Even if he says "i cant match it".... just say OK then and bluff him. Its nuts the profit margins on these things. My day had his front door, then back door (both had top or 2 side windows) and came to £800. Going on that £1300 is achievable. However, its true there are diffeences in quality, so bare that in mind too.
[mod]#16
guv
magicjay1986

Cheers Guv. I have told them that I will call them by tonight in the hope that they will call over the weekend or on Monday to drop their price.

It was hilarious that the first chap told me that I was not intelligent for declining their quote. What an idiot!


Indeed.... they got quite narked with me for not taking their "offer" despite telling them I was not making a deision and looking at more quotes.

Tip: Dont call them. They will call you (serious) They will NOT let a lead fall to the side. When they call, tell them you've had a reduction from one of the competiors and looking at what youve said "3 small windows and a door" It wont be more than £1500 - probably a little less if youre cheeky enough. Even if he says "i cant match it".... just say OK then and bluff him. Its nuts the profit margins on these things. My day had his front door, then back door (both had top or 2 side windows) and came to £800. Going on that £1300 is achievable. However, its true there are diffeences in quality, so bare that in mind too.


The funny thing was, when he "had to call his head office" to see what "further discount" they could get us...he actually said "come on, you can do better than that, this is only 3 small windows and a door".

I note what you say about quality but for the standard glazed door they are all the same plastic and argon gas filled with the same amount of chambers, grade of window, locking points, opening degree etc.

They did show us one of the Everest versions and you could tell that one was quality and the price was about 4 times. All of the "lesser quality" seemed to have the same specs. Am I missing something?!
[mod]#17
whatsThePoint
When i had mine done 2 years ago, one place came in at £23k for 10 windows
£10k of that was for just one window

Everest were a joke as well
They eventually matched the people i said i was going with for the cost of the windows but then threw any chance away big time with the cost of extras
A few small jobs needed doing which the chosen company had quoted £300 in total
Everest only got as far as giving a price for first small job which was to remove 4 layers of bricks about 4ft wide so that window could be returned to original size
Everest price £600 or roughly £30 a brick oO


Someone showed us an Everest window and it did look very nice but the price was astronomical. They did say though that with every Everest style they sell they get a commission of £800 (on each item). So I told them not to bother quoting this window to us as for a small window we wouldn't want to pay more than £400. Which, at the time, I considered to be a reasonable sum to pay.
banned#18
magicjay1986
guv
magicjay1986

Cheers Guv. I have told them that I will call them by tonight in the hope that they will call over the weekend or on Monday to drop their price.

It was hilarious that the first chap told me that I was not intelligent for declining their quote. What an idiot!


Indeed.... they got quite narked with me for not taking their "offer" despite telling them I was not making a deision and looking at more quotes.

Tip: Dont call them. They will call you (serious) They will NOT let a lead fall to the side. When they call, tell them you've had a reduction from one of the competiors and looking at what youve said "3 small windows and a door" It wont be more than £1500 - probably a little less if youre cheeky enough. Even if he says "i cant match it".... just say OK then and bluff him. Its nuts the profit margins on these things. My day had his front door, then back door (both had top or 2 side windows) and came to £800. Going on that £1300 is achievable. However, its true there are diffeences in quality, so bare that in mind too.


The funny thing was, when he "had to call his head office" to see what "further discount" they could get us...he actually said "come on, you can do better than that, this is only 3 small windows and a door".

I note what you say about quality but for the standard glazed door they are all the same plastic and argon gas filled with the same amount of chambers, grade of window, locking points, opening degree etc.

They did show us one of the Everest versions and you could tell that one was quality and the price was about 4 times. All of the "lesser quality" seemed to have the same specs. Am I missing something?!


A mate of mine used to fit windows as a side line. I seem to remember him saying the thing that costs is the frames (metal inside) and the welds. One company seems to be the biggest supplier Rayou or something like that from memory. I'm sure someone will know the name.
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guv
magicjay1986
guv
magicjay1986

Cheers Guv. I have told them that I will call them by tonight in the hope that they will call over the weekend or on Monday to drop their price.

It was hilarious that the first chap told me that I was not intelligent for declining their quote. What an idiot!


Indeed.... they got quite narked with me for not taking their "offer" despite telling them I was not making a deision and looking at more quotes.

Tip: Dont call them. They will call you (serious) They will NOT let a lead fall to the side. When they call, tell them you've had a reduction from one of the competiors and looking at what youve said "3 small windows and a door" It wont be more than £1500 - probably a little less if youre cheeky enough. Even if he says "i cant match it".... just say OK then and bluff him. Its nuts the profit margins on these things. My day had his front door, then back door (both had top or 2 side windows) and came to £800. Going on that £1300 is achievable. However, its true there are diffeences in quality, so bare that in mind too.


The funny thing was, when he "had to call his head office" to see what "further discount" they could get us...he actually said "come on, you can do better than that, this is only 3 small windows and a door".

I note what you say about quality but for the standard glazed door they are all the same plastic and argon gas filled with the same amount of chambers, grade of window, locking points, opening degree etc.

They did show us one of the Everest versions and you could tell that one was quality and the price was about 4 times. All of the "lesser quality" seemed to have the same specs. Am I missing something?!


A mate of mine used to fit windows as a side line. I seem to remember him saying the thing that costs is the frames (metal inside) and the welds. One company seems to be the biggest supplier Rayou or something like that from memory. I'm sure someone will know the name.


I can believe that as one of them was telling us that the "plastic" costs about £1.28 a metre. Therefore I wondered why they were trying to charge what they were!
banned#20
I was close!

Rehau was the name I was looking for!

When you speak eventually to your supplier ask if the frames are Rehau.
#21
One of the main costings ( and resulting difference in quality ) in window manufacturing is the material used inside the frames. A lot of the cheaper companies use a lower grade metal, usually thinner and as a result not as strong. A few years back, some companies were found to just use metal inside the frames only part way along the inside of the frame.

This sort of thing apparently leads to "bowing" in the frames.

Another one is a low grade PVC. This is why some windows look grey/brown after a while. similar to how those cheap plastic garden cchairs go after a while if they are left outside.

The other ways the cheaper companies cut corners is to use poorer quality rubber seals in the glazed units ( ends up with internal misting in the glass) and poor quality locks and furniture.

Always worth checking out references from customers who have had the job done for a while with a particular company as problems usually arise a fair few months after installation.
banned#22
the window products we sell is 'Bowater Halo' Eclipse profile, we use pilkington A rated argon filled energiekare glass units, if you come across these names its a good combination, we use good hardware to like Macko shootbolts on windows and Yale multipoint on resi doors, you should really ask for recommended firms because the quality of fitting makes or breaks the final job.

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