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BBC link Russia's defense ministry on Monday accused the United States of failing to use a pre-established communication channel to warn Moscow of a strike downing a Syrian warplane, announcing it wo… Read More
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1w, 23m agoPosted 1 week, 23 minutes ago
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Russia's defense ministry on Monday accused the United States of failing to use a pre-established communication channel to warn Moscow of a strike downing a Syrian warplane, announcing it would drop the use of this channel."The command of the coalition forces did not use the established communication channel for preventing incidents in Syrian airspace," it said, adding Moscow "ends cooperation (regarding the channel) with the American side from June 19."
The defense ministry added that, "Any flying objects, including planes and drones of the international coalition, discovered west of the Euphrates river will be tracked as aerial targets by Russia's air defences on and above ground."
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1w, 23m agoPosted 1 week, 23 minutes ago
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That whole conflict is a complicated mess of different factions with multiple allegiances.
Best thing would have been to stay the hell out of there, but like previous conflicts, Western governments seem to want to get involved for their own agendas and end up making things worse for the everyday people living there. In turn that makes this country even more unpopular and more likely for atrocities to be committed here.
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Destard
That whole conflict is a complicated mess of different factions with multiple allegiances.
Best thing would have been to stay the hell out of there, but like previous conflicts, Western governments seem to want to get involved for their own agendas and end up making things worse for the everyday people living there. In turn that makes this country even more unpopular and more likely for atrocities to be committed here.


And yet some people put Russia's Putin on a pedestal. Bizarre isn't it!
1 Like #3
Assad - killed more Syrians than IS, but people still confused about conflict...2 enemies = Islamist terrorists and Assad.
#4
davewave
Assad - killed more Syrians than IS, but people still confused about conflict...2 enemies = Islamist terrorists and Assad.


Don't forget the rest.
3. The Syrian National Coalition.
4. Muslim Brotherhood of Syria
5. Turkey
6. Certain Kurdish groups

Its like a medieval War, *most* factions are raping, murdering and enslaving their way across Iraq and Syria.
#5
You might see the Ruskies shooting down a few drones but they wouldn't dare shoot down a US/UK/French/whoever manned aircraft.
#6
freakstyler
You might see the Ruskies shooting down a few drones but they wouldn't dare shoot down a US/UK/French/whoever manned aircraft.

Turkish maybe, but even that's an attack on NATO.
1 Like #7
ISIS backed by the US, Israel and Saudi. FACT.
#8
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1 Like #9
Itsabargain69
ISIS backed by the US, Israel and Saudi. FACT.
Where is the fact exactly?
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OllieSt
freakstyler
You might see the Ruskies shooting down a few drones but they wouldn't dare shoot down a US/UK/French/whoever manned aircraft.
Turkish maybe, but even that's an attack on NATO.
I reckon the rest of NATO would allow Russia one free go at a Turkish plane, given how the Turks controversially shot a Russian jet down last year and how unpopular Erdogan currently is with the rest of the alliance
#11
Destard
OllieSt
freakstyler
You might see the Ruskies shooting down a few drones but they wouldn't dare shoot down a US/UK/French/whoever manned aircraft.
Turkish maybe, but even that's an attack on NATO.
I reckon the rest of NATO would allow Russia one free go at a Turkish plane, given how the Turks controversially shot a Russian jet down last year and how unpopular Erdogan currently is with the rest of the alliance
Now the Ruskies have declared
“In the areas of combat missions of Russian air fleet in Syrian skies, any airborne objects, including aircraft and unmanned vehicles of the [US-led] international coalition, located to the west of the Euphrates River, will be tracked by Russian ground and air defense forces as air targets,” the Russian Ministry of Defense stated.
which may seems understandable.

It's worrying the depth of the mind games being play'd. What are they upto?
1 Like #12
One day NATO will poke the Russian Bear once too often and it will fight back then many millions will die.
#13
Its all hot air from the (former) Red's. They're still stuck in the 70's/80's when it comes to their military hardware. Granted they have modernised a little but they're leaps and bounds behind the west and Nato. They still haven't come to terms with their now diminished capacity since the break up of the USSR, they know if they did shoot down a US manned aircraft they'd pay for it multiple times over. I don't know why we're even bothering with Syria, same goes for the Russians. Personally i'd let them get on with it, let the various factions/sects/groups kill each other.
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Itsabargain69
ISIS backed by the US, Israel and Saudi. FACT.


Islamic State doesn't need backing it's a hugely profitable regime. Al Quaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas etc. all created by men hell bent on violence and zealotry whilst getting very very rich.
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davewave
Itsabargain69
ISIS backed by the US, Israel and Saudi. FACT.
Islamic State doesn't need backing it's a hugely profitable regime. Al Quaeda, Hizbollah, Hamas etc. all created by men hell bent on violence and zealotry whilst getting very very rich.
You make them sound just like the usa. And you omitted Al Nusra. I wonder why?

Edited By: qbs on Jun 21, 2017 01:20: edit

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