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Driving licence help!

Scouser78 Avatar
9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
Last Friday I was given a speeding ticket. Yes, I know. I was going just over the limit on an unknown road and I've learnt my lesson. I accepted the fine at the side of the road and went through all my insurance and MOT details which were fine. I was then asked to provide my driving licence at a police station in the next seven days, and that's where the problem is.

Now before I start, I do have a full driving licence (it was clean too!) but if I explain this to you then maybe you would understand where I'm coming from.

On Tuesday July 24th work asked me to drive to London rather than fly to save on the budget and said they would hire me a car, and all I had to do was show my driving licence at the car hire depot. I went home that night and looked through my motor folder and came across a letter from a couple of months earlier, saying that I needed to provide a new photo for a picture driving licence (Mine had always been paper back in the day!). It must have completely slipped my mind that I'd not re-sent this picture to complete the process when I had moved house. The letter also stated that DVLA would keep my paper licence until I provided them with this.

Not a problem I thought, because work said that if I couldn't find my drivers licence they would issue me with a company car instead. So that night I went to asda, got my passport photo and sent the paperwork off on Wednesday (25th) morning.

Then I was stopped for speeding on the Friday by a speed gun. (27th). I explained to the officer that my licence was in Swansea being amended and he told me to explain this to police station, so off I went.

The same day I went to the station to explain the situation, took along supporting documentation to show that I did have a driving licence, but they said that they needed the actual licence to send back off to Swansea and have the 3 points added.

The problem starts here.

The officer at the station (a very unhelpful lady who spoke to me like I'd just thrown a gang of kids down a mineshaft) said that if I don't show my licence by Friday 3rd August (tomorrow) then I would be issued with a summons to court.

In normal circumstances I would completely understand, but at this moment in time the licence still has not arrived at my home and the royal mail is on strike tomorrow.

Now I've never been in trouble with the police in my life, but I can't sleep and have had the odd panic attack over it. I'm a 28 year old man for god's sake and I'm having panic attacks over something that wouldn't bother anyone else.

Does anybody have any advice what I can do when I get back home from London tonight. I'm going straight to the station to explain again, and mention that if it's not here today it won't be here at the cut off of tomorrow noting the strike.

I know I was a naughty boy speeding, I know I was right to be fined and given points, and I know that the procedure is 7 days.

I'm just asking for some advice on the predicament to get my nerves at ease.

Thanks for listening.
Scouser78 Avatar
9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
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#1
I am sure the police would be resonable in this situation, as it is completely out of your control. Give them a call at the station today to explain the situation again. Ask them if they can liaise with the DVLA directly to confirm the situation.

dog_cop may be able to give you good advice, as he is 'old bill'

Hope this helps.
#2
Looks like someone was having an off day at the station. If you speak to someone else you may get a better response.
#3
Have you rung up the DVLA to ask about your licence?, How long it will take? and explained the current situation?
[mod]#4
If they do summons you to court then you'll have your liscence back by then and they would look extremely stupid as they can check on their sytems to see if you are a full liscense holder anyway.
#5
if you call back up you will be fine. When we were involved in an accident we had to show our driving licences to the police now we had moved about 2 months earlier and hadn't updated them and on top of that I had been married 2 years earlier and still not updated it from my maiden name!!. The police guy said it was normal and then went on to talk about how many people didn't have their licences cos they had sent them to the dvla and they (the police) can call them to check.
#6
Syzable
If they do summons you to court then you'll have your liscence back by then and they would look extremely stupid as they can check on their sytems to see if you are a full liscense holder anyway.


My thoughts exactly. Don't worry yourself over it.

I remember when I got done for speeding a few years back it was the best thing that happened to me. When I had to do a producer at the station it appeared that I only had a motorbike licence (even though I was caught in a car). It turned out that when I passed my test, I sent my licence BEFORE the instructor sent the pass cert. The DVLA got it and thought I just wanted a replacement licence (with only the motorbike element) I got caught for speeding 2 years and 11 months after passing my test. Aparently if you don't send the pass cert and the licence off before the 3 year deadline, you have to take your test again!

Bit of a blessing in disguise really!
#7
Cheers, I appreciate the feedback. I'm going to go down personally tonight and explain that it's my second visit since the incident over the matter. Hopefully I'll get someone in a much better mood than last week.

I just panicked after the way I was spoken to seeing as though it was the first time I'd ever been called to a station over anything. I wouldn't mind if I never had a licence because that would be what I'd expect of someone to react, but I had supporting material, had paid the fine and went in without any problems towards the ticket.
banned 1 Like #8
In respect of the summons to court, dont even worry about that as there are plenty of people who like yourself have sent D/L back to Swansea for this and that or even re newing it , and to my knowledge over 14yrs service no one yet has been fined or prosecuted as yet, as long as you can take to the court the supporting docs to say you HAVE sent your D/L back to Swansea..

As for the front office staff.... that is unacceptable, yes I know a lot of our front office staff get abuse all day long but if your saying she was off with you and you were being polite etc like most of us would be, I would sugest a letter to the station commander..

One thing I would always sugest is always get a name or number of the person who your talking to, that way if you have had good service you can let someone know , plus poor service likewise. Also I have seen first hand bad customer service and there is no room for it, especially when people who have never had any contact with the police in thier lives, find the whole trip to a police staion quite traumatic.

No more sleepless nights I hope DC :-D
#9
Thanks dog_cop, means a lot hearing it straight from someone who has experience of the police. I'm going to give the station a call today to give them an update of the situation.

Regards
#10
Syzable
If they do summons you to court then you'll have your liscence back by then and they would look extremely stupid as they can check on their sytems to see if you are a full liscense holder anyway.


Yeah, many can do checks for liscenses at the side of the road anyway can't they?
[mod]#11
duckmagicuk2
Yeah, many can do checks for liscenses at the side of the road anyway can't they?


Yes. They are quick to check with the DVLA then. :thumbsup:
#12
They were saying to me that I had to provide them with my licence within seven days so that they could send the licence off to Swansea to have the points put on, but I thought it would be easier for everyone if they could call DVLA, confirm my licence, then have them put the points on while it was there.

Obviously I caught somebody on a bad day.
banned#13
Scouser78
They were saying to me that I had to provide them with my licence within seven days so that they could send the licence off to Swansea to have the points put on, but I thought it would be easier for everyone if they could call DVLA, confirm my licence, then have them put the points on while it was there.

Obviously I caught somebody on a bad day.


the old bill cannot add the points to yourD/L thats DVLA`s job , they would not trust us to do that, plus as you have taken the fixed penalty option you surrender your licence, pay the fine, we send your licence away to dvla for you and bingo you get your d./l back with the points on all very painless..plus we as in OB need to know you have a d/l and you dont have more that 9 points as it gets complicated after 9


So no sleepless nightsnow.. the bill for my services is in the post

:w00t: .
#14
Well what a night I had Friday!! I went to the police station, explained to them that the driving licence was still in Swansea and everything that was mentioned above, and they tell me that there's nothing else they can do but summons me to court!

I asked if there were concessions due to there being a postal strike that week but I was told that because it says seven days to surrender, it means seven days, and as my licence was in Swansea I had missed the cut off point.

So now I've been told to gather my evidence together and wait for a court date. I've been told by a friend of mine to write a letter to the Crown Prosecution Service and ask if it is really in the taxpayers best interests to send me to court over it all.

My licence still hasn't arrived but my passport has come back with a note saying that the application is in the process of being completed, so I suppose I'll just wait until then and photocopy it all.

I asked the enquiry officer on Friday that if my licence does turn up could I bring it to the station and they can send it back to DVLA once they have inspected it, but I was told no and had to go to court to do it all.
[mod]#15
Just goto court, the hearing will last all of 2 minutes. lol

And don't write to the Crown Prosecution Service as this is dealt with by the Magistrates Court.
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At last something on here I know about : ) On the ticket at the bottom you will see and address and hopefully a telephone number of the central ticket office or something with a similiar name.Call that number explain the problem with the licence and they will send you a letter with an extension on it,all you do then is when you receive your licence is send it in pay the fine and it is all then a nasty dream in the past!
As for the woman in the office, a little power sometimes does that to people!:whistling:
#17
andy8771
At last something on here I know about : ) On the ticket at the bottom you will see and address and hopefully a telephone number of the central ticket office or something with a similiar name.Call that number explain the problem with the licence and they will send you a letter with an extension on it,all you do then is when you receive your licence is send it in pay the fine and it is all then a nasty dream in the past!
As for the woman in the office, a little power sometimes does that to people!:whistling:


Thanks mate, I'll do just that. I've gathered all kinds of evidence together incase it gets to court, such as the official list and dates of postal strikes throughout the country and the effect it's having on deliveries, as well as times, dates, phone call records etc of how I've been trying to resolve the issues.

The fine was paid within two days of the ticket, but as long as I can send the licence in the post when it arrives, that's all I care about at the minute.

Once again, thanks a lot.
#18
Oh, and thanks to everybody else as well. I never had any doubt that people would help on this website, I appreciate it all.
#19
Just a quick update to let you know what eventually happened.

My licence arrived last week so I instantly took photocopies and attached it to a letter with the evidence described above, and sent it off to Merseyside Police as per Andy8771.

Received a reply this morning and the matter won't make it as far as court as they've accepted the explanation and all I have to do is now send my licence to them and they'll do the rest.

Huge weight off the shoulders now, and thanks a lot to everybody who has contributed and helped.

The police were at exactly the same spot this morning and I cruised past the speed camera at a healthy 37mph in a 40mph zone.
[admin]#20
That's great news fella :)

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