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I am looking for a DSLR for my daughter and have read through lots of reviews etc. I have sourced a Sony Alpha a200 with the 18-70 kit lens for around £260. Whilst I believe this will do a decent jo…
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7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
I am looking for a DSLR for my daughter and have read through lots of reviews etc.
I have sourced a Sony Alpha a200 with the 18-70 kit lens for around £260. Whilst I believe this will do a decent job of things, I realise additional lenses will be required in the near future. My main dilema is do I buy the "cheap" Sony or go for the Canon 450d etc ? My thoughts being that using the money saved on the Sony camera could be put towards a 75-300 sigma/tamron/sony tele lens.
Are the Sony and Canons poles apart in terms of IQ, usability etc.
I am looking to spend around £600 and would appreciate thoughts and comments.
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7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
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1 Like #1
Picture from the father in laws sony a200 with standard lens to give you an idea.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2znquxj.jpg
#2
Canon user myself, wife has a nikon, for long term would go canon or nikon, if it's a camera to see how you go Sony should fit the bill nicely especially at 260. :thumbsup:
1 Like #3
I went through similar at the beginning of the year and bought the A200 with the same kit lens - very glad I did. I tried the Canon and Nikon equivalents, but to be honest I foudn the A200 more intuitive and lighter. It also felt a bit less plasticky.

I have since purchased an 20-200 Tamron lens which is ok for the low price and a Minolta 50mm F1.7 secondhand lens form Ebay - remember that Minolta lens will fit and offer excellent quality. I then bought a Lowepro bag and have finally invested in a HVL-F42AM flash unit which has transformed pictures and the way I look at things -even in daylight!

All of this has cost me just under £500 so you would still have change.

For Sony acessories, check out http://www.dyxum.com/ which has all the info and reviews you could need.

In the end, the IS built into the body at this entry level swayed me to the Sony rather than the competition and its nice to know that this gives me an element of freedom in lens choice. I have noticed that Sony accessories seem to be a little more expensive overall, but there is no shortage and Sony latest releases underline their commitment to this arena. Finally, the lack of Liveview was a bonus for me as the battery life is outstanding (around 700-800 shots even with loads with flash) and if I wanted that kind of function then I would buy a point-and-shoot (which I did - Samsung NV-100HD)

Whatever you choose, I dont think you can go wrong and I wouldnt worry about this is better than that etc. In the end, you arent spending a whole lot more than you would have done on a decent point-and-shoot a couple of years ago.

Good luck with your decision.
#4
if you speak to any camara shop or camara person they will all say the same DO NOT TOUCH THE SONY!!!!

the canon 450D very good camara however.

NIKON have just released the D3000 if you order on line for shop collection from jessops you get the camara body and 18-55 VR lense (£499), 4g SDHC card (£20) and bag (£30) all for the grand total of £499.00 BARGIN.

on top if you buy the 55-200 while in store you will pay £80 for it a saving of about £130.

so you could get all you need to be a photographer or start your course for £579.00.

we have just done a wedding shoot with this set up and the results are amazing the D3000 has a built in guide to teach you all about different setps of shutter speed ect.

hope this helps as we are so happy with ours
#5
thegirlsdad;6167831
if you speak to any camara shop or camara person they will all say the same DO NOT TOUCH THE SONY!!!!



Woah - bit strong! Can you say why they would say this? Our Jessops recommended the camera, it gets good reviews and has a massive following....?
#6
I would agree that the Canon and Nikon equivalents are also good, but I dont think its fair to diss without reasons...
#8
esq3585
Canon user myself, wife has a nikon, for long term would go canon or nikon, if it's a camera to see how you go Sony should fit the bill nicely especially at 260. :thumbsup:


I have a Olympus 570 myself, and although I appreciate the results are not quite DSLR standard, I am "spoilt" by it's functionality in terms of 20x zoom, macro shots etc, all in one package. To do this with an SLR would mean extra lenses (and additional costs) - yet another minefield.
This is what swayed me towards the Sony as it has onboard IS, effectively stabilising any lens you attach.
Can you take decent macro shots with sony kit lens (18-70)
#9
thegirlsdad
if you speak to any camara shop or camara person they will all say the same DO NOT TOUCH THE SONY!!!!



Somehow I think a shop that sells this camera will not say this.
1 Like #10
tinkerbell28
Sorry to hijack you thread op, saves doing to of the exact same subject hubby is after an DSLR, was gonna get him the canon 500d thoughts pls?:)


great camera. :thumbsup:
#11
i have the Sony A200 and it is absolutely brilliant. I have the standard lens that comes with the camera and recently purchased a zoom lens (75mm - 300mm I think).
#12
thegirlsdad
if you speak to any camara shop or camara person they will all say the same DO NOT TOUCH THE SONY!!!!



Probably because they want to sell you a more expensive one with all the add ons

Although no shop I have been in would ever say that
#13
tinkerbell28
Is it oh good thanks:thumbsup:


Would get a 50d before a 500d though . :thumbsup:
#14
marmalade47

For Sony acessories, check out http://www.dyxum.com/ which has all the info and reviews you could need.

Good luck with your decision.


cheers, I have seen this site & it is useful

how do you set up macro shots on the a200 with 18-70 lens, and what is nearest focus distance?
1 Like #15
esq3585
Would get a 50d before a 500d though . :thumbsup:


Or a 40D and a better lens!!

Canon user myself, mainly because i know a few people with them so we borrow each others lenses. Remember you are buying into a brand, and everything you buy for it will be based around that decision.

I'd say, buy a second hand 20D and a 100mm Macro lens :)
#16
Go to several camera shops, for a bit of hands on. - They need to be comfortable with the whole package.
Read as many reviews as poss as some shops might have a bias to one brand.
Take Canon/Nikon are better than XXXXX? with a pinch of salt. There are no dogs out there but one brand may perform better at lower iso than higher iso and vice versa. Some will be better at landscapes than motorsports etc.

Re the "stay clear of sony advice"; don't/didn't Sony supply most of the mfg's with their sensors, maybe they should have a "Sony Inside" sticker.
#17
Check out reviews on places like Steve's Digicams and Trusted Reviews for good hands-on advice about different models.
#18
anyone know of cheapest high st store/supermarket where I could pick up a compact flash card at a reasonable price please?
#19
[url]www.7dayshop.com[/url]

Shopwise not sure.
#20
esq3585
[url]www.7dayshop.com[/url]

Shopwise not sure.


online prices are good, but high st are a rip-off in the likes of currys, jessops etc
#21
J9STL;6168068
cheers, I have seen this site & it is useful

how do you set up macro shots on the a200 with 18-70 lens, and what is nearest focus distance?


Not sure on the nearest focus distance, but it has a Macro mode which I used for the usual close-up nice flower shot when I first got it.

Just found:
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/ddl-aps-c-lenses/sal-1870#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

which gives 38cm as the minimum ...:)
#22
marmalade47
Not sure on the nearest focus distance, but it has a Macro mode which I used for the usual close-up nice flower shot when I first got it.

Just found:
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/ddl-aps-c-lenses/sal-1870#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

which gives 38cm as the minimum ...:)


cheers, just picked it up from Argos this afternoon and gave it to my daughter; told her it works out at £20 per GCSE she passed :thumbsup:.
unfortunately I have no CF card yet (not paying high street prices :w00t: )
still she can read up and go on flickr for now

would appreciate advice on filters/macro/tele lenses etc as seen on popular auction sites ....I understand that Minolta AF are worth looking at too
#23
J9STL;6170142
cheers, just picked it up from Argos this afternoon and gave it to my daughter; told her it works out at £20 per GCSE she passed :thumbsup:.
unfortunately I have no CF card yet (not paying high street prices :w00t: )
still she can read up and go on flickr for now

would appreciate advice on filters/macro/tele lenses etc as seen on popular auction sites ....I understand that Minolta AF are worth looking at too


Yep Minolta AF are definitely worth looking at - this was the 50mm lens I got which despite being 24 years old is amazing - these are around £100. For the CF card I bought the Extreme III 16Gb for around £35 on Amazon - these are pricey, but made such a difference in storage time; continuous JPEGs just keep going one after the other without stopping!

I am also looking for filters at the moment but havnt got a clue :)
#24
J9STL
anyone know of cheapest high st store/supermarket where I could pick up a compact flash card at a reasonable price please?


Morrisons and tesco had some good deals recently.
#26
Mclovin


Also check out the HUKD photography thread.. they are pretty helpful there!


Link here http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316791
#27
Mclovin
Hey mate i had same decision i ended up avoiding the Sonys and going for a canon 450d.


Canon 450d crossed my mind tbh, but it's £200 more than the a200. I figured the a200 is a good learner and there are a lot of decent used lenses on ebay etc which can do a good job and still leave me spending short of the 450d basic price. Also, they seem to have a big fan base on flickr etc and second hand models seem to hold their prices quite well.
banned#28
I've used Sony, canon and nikon, and they were pretty similar. Know its a bit late but bear in mind the sony has in body stabilisation and that will save money on lenses too.
#29
colinsunderland
I've used Sony, canon and nikon, and they were pretty similar. Know its a bit late but bear in mind the sony has in body stabilisation and that will save money on lenses too.


I did bear it in mind, and bought the a200 yesterday :thumbsup:
#30
I was a Canon user too... never really got into sony. That price is pretty good though.
#31
Superb cameras.

Invest the rest in quality lenses.

28-135mm IS Canon for example new - £230

Used £190 ish

These cameras can be used in fully auto mode and then you can venture into the more technical stuff as you get confident.

I just love Canons and used they represent excellent value.

Good luck
#32
Bobef90
Superb cameras.

Invest the rest in quality lenses.

28-135mm IS Canon for example new - £230

Used £190 ish

These cameras can be used in fully auto mode and then you can venture into the more technical stuff as you get confident.

I just love Canons and used they represent excellent value.

Good luck


Erm...he bought the Sony.
#33
Goonieman
Erm...he bought the Sony.


lol, I did indeed get the a200 and my daughter is very happy with it.
currently scouring ebay on the lookout for additional lenses
#34
J9STL
lol, I did indeed get the a200 and my daughter is very happy with it.
currently scouring ebay on the lookout for additional lenses


I have a 450d and to be honest, I dont use it as much as I used to. I have saved £300 to get a 17-85 IS lens for it but you seem to have bought a A200 with 18-70 lens for the same money!! (roughly) - I want to buy one lol.

But there is no stock in south wales! Gutted.
#35
J9STL
lol, I did indeed get the a200 and my daughter is very happy with it.
currently scouring ebay on the lookout for additional lenses


I bought one from amazon about 3 weeks ago and i'm very pleased with it. Trying to get to grips with all the setting etc. at the minute. Bought two lenses from ebay so far, a Konica Minolta AF 75-300mm and a Konica Minolta AF 50mm.

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