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Meadsy4742 Avatar
6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
Just about to buy something on e-Bay from someone with 2 feedback, looked at their feedback and both feedbacks are within the last month and are both for buying things and not selling.

For delivery (because the thing is so damn big) he said he would be driving up sunday afternoon, bringing it in and setting it up for me. I sent him an email however telling him I was quite suspicious to let so much money go when I could quite easily give him cash on delivery. This is what he said back however, please tell me if the following is correct and how much protection I have:

''This is why i have requested paypal. As a buyer you are fully
protected, and i can only remove fnds once you have left positive
feedback (because of being a new user). ''

Thanks
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6y, 10m agoPosted 6 years, 10 months ago
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banned#1
jesus the seller has no protection at all, he will need proof of delivery should you put in a claim
#2
I would not take the chance,tell him cash on del or he can keep it
#3
sassie
jesus the seller has no protection at all, he will need proof of delivery should you put in a claim


How you mean protection? Were going to be meeting face-to-face when I hand over the money. Isn't that all thats needed? Its just the reverse of me going to collect it from him....
#4
like sassie says you can pay him paypal, he delivers it to your house then if you were to put in a no received dispute he will have no proof that he delivered it?
Seems strange to me.
#5
If anything it is the seller who is leaving themselves wide open not you.

What were the delivery terms on the auction?
#6
There is no sense in paying by Paypal for either of you if you do the deal in person,as long as you're happy with the item before he leaves.
banned#7
Meadsy4742
How you mean protection? Were going to be meeting face-to-face when I hand over the money. Isn't that all thats needed? Its just the reverse of me going to collect it from him....


i am on about if he wants you to pay by paypal, he has no protection as if you where to scam him and say you hadnt received it, cant understand why he wants payment this way:?
#8
ettam123
I would not take the chance,tell him cash on del or he can keep it


Yeah, I think this is the best option. Just seems a little weird, joined 10/01/10, bought 2 cheap products, name is like a shop...though he's not registered as a power seller...fishy stuff.
#9
p.s good for you for asking before the deal instead of the usual 'it's gone breasts up, please help me'
#10
sassie
i am on about if he wants you to pay by paypal, he has no protection as if you where to scam him and say you hadnt received it, cant understand why he wants payment this way:?


This is what has thrown me, seems to be he wants the cash because he dosen't plan to come and deliver it. I've asked if he could get a courier to deliver but he said he would rather deliver himself so he can set it up and make sure everything is running right.
#11
Meadsy4742
Yeah, I think this is the best option. Just seems a little weird, joined 10/01/10, bought 2 cheap products, name is like a shop...though he's not registered as a power seller...fishy stuff.


Why is it fishy,the seller is naive by the sounds of it that's all.
#12
greg_68
p.s good for you for asking before the deal instead of the usual 'it's gone breasts up, please help me'


Thanks lol, seen them threads also, just haven't used e-bay for over £100 stuff for ages so a little but wary :thumbsup:
banned#13
maybe he is a genuine newbie who isnt aware of paypals refunds, but also maybe the chance he is hoping the payment wont be held and he can transfer from his account leaving paypal to cover the loss
#14
How much money are we talking?
#15
deb8z
Why is it fishy,the seller is naive by the sounds of it that's all.


Aren't all scammers? Act like they don't know whats going on then pull the rug from under your feet :thumbsup:
#16
sassie
maybe he is a genuine newbie who isnt aware of paypals refunds, but also maybe the chance he is hoping the payment wont be held and he can transfer from his account leaving paypal to cover the loss


Yeah, a risk I'm not willing to take I think...best to be safe than sorry.
banned#17
i would email them back through ebay and tell them they would not be covered by paypal should someone put in a claim, see what he comes back with, if he is persistent then stay well clear
#18
Meadsy4742
Aren't all scammers? Act like they don't know whats going on then pull the rug from under your feet :thumbsup:


I'm not suggesting you pay via Paypal though,i wouldn't,i'd pay cash.
#19
sassie
i would enail them back through ebay and tell them they would not be covered by paypal should omeone put in a claim, see what he comes back with, if he is persistent then stay well clear


Will do, he also sent an invoice last night so I guess he defo wants payment via Paypal. Maybe its for petrol but hes put delivery at £108. The item weighs in excess of 100kg. That alone seems quite high to me.
#20
yes thats a good point too sassie, as he is new and recieving a big amount of cash Paypal usually hold the money till he gets positive feedback, so he would have to deliver it to get his money released from paypal?

But even so it does seem so much easier cash on collection.
#21
Meadsy4742
Will do, he also sent an invoice last night so I guess he defo wants payment via Paypal. Maybe its for petrol but hes put delivery at £108. The item weighs in excess of 100kg. That alone seems quite high to me.


that £108 ontop of the item charge? he wants you to pay that delivery amount? Seems very odd to me!!
#22
sorry double posted x
banned#23
Meadsy4742
Will do, he also sent an invoice last night so I guess he defo wants payment via Paypal. Maybe its for petrol but hes put delivery at £108. The item weighs in excess of 100kg. That alone seems quite high to me.


something deffo a miss here, he could send you anything via post (for proof of delivery) once you have paid, personally i would stay clear

could you send me item number via pm, understand completely if you would rather not
#24
sassie
something deffo a miss here, he could send you anything via post (for proof of delivery) once you have paid, personally i would stay clear

could you send me item number via pm, understand completely if you would rather not


What happens to my feedback now? The questions I asked whilst the bidding was on-going didn't get asked until I won the item yesterday morning.
#25
Meadsy4742
What happens to my feedback now? The questions I asked whilst the bidding was on-going didn't get asked until I won the item yesterday morning.


Can't leave neg for seller so you would be ok

Personally I would offer COD or leave it. Tell them you are willing to take the risk on protection.
#26
It does depend how much money we are talking too,if it's 20 quid it's no big deal.if it's over a 100 that's a tad different.
#27
Meadsy4742
What happens to my feedback now? The questions I asked whilst the bidding was on-going didn't get asked until I won the item yesterday morning.


Oh good lord,i didn't realise you'd already won it lol
#28
he cant negative a buyer, Dont worry about it. You can Neg him though for excessive postage charges!!
banned#29
Meadsy4742
What happens to my feedback now? The questions I asked whilst the bidding was on-going didn't get asked until I won the item yesterday morning.


the seller cant leave neg, but you can get a strike for non payment
#30
£108.00 delivery... how far away is the seller from you and will the item fit in a standard saloon ? (Just to see whether the del cost is fair)
#31
deb8z
It does depend how much money we are talking too,if it's 20 quid it's no big deal.if it's over a 100 that's a tad different.


Yeah I wouldn't be TOO bothered at a low budget but were talking £178. Most of which is delivery.
banned#32
tinkerbell28
Why is this fishy, it sounds like a noob seller who has made the fatal mistake of thinking paypal is god. If anything the seller has left himself wide open to being scammed not the other way around.

If you pay by paypal what's the worst that can happen to you? What kind of scam are you thinking here?


hence why i said contact the seller to explain, the scam could be leaving paypal to pick up the tag, he could pay and the seller send him something via post, etc,etc yes it could be a newbie, or it could be a scammer
#33
why dont you offer to pay half with paypal and half cash on collection
#34
tinkerbell28
Why is this fishy, it sounds like a noob seller who has made the fatal mistake of thinking paypal is god. If anything the seller has left himself wide open to being scammed not the other way around.

If you pay by paypal what's the worst that can happen to you? What kind of scam are you thinking here?

And where did the £108 delivery come from, just read, slow today just got up :w00t:


In all honesty any scam, there's that many out there, new ones coming along, ebay is just bloody dangerous for irregular items you can't buy anywhere else.
#35
or say you will pay for the item over paypal and pay for the delivery when he brings it to you
#36
tinkerbell28
I don't see the issue op has then? He is covered, just say it's a scam, tbh sounds more like a noob, but just say it is, op files an INR, or a SNAD, if it's as big as it's supposed to be the scammer is not going to spend all that postage sending something of a smiliar size. Op gets a refund. I really don't get the concern tbh, or am I still half asleep:? More thann likely the funds will be held too...........



TBH that's just paranoia.


Paranoia maybe, but this is how people end up complaining they have been scammed. Paypal looks into each case respectively, what sassie is trying to say is that I could pay for everything and then instead of coming to deliver himself, he could have a large item (that would take a courier) delivered to me, so £10-£15 delivery, to Paypal, it would look like I've received a large item. If that makes any sense?
#37
pink-ka
or say you will pay for the item over paypal and pay for the delivery when he brings it to you


Thats the best idea ^^^^ to keep both of you happy surely:thumbsup:
#38
Meadsy4742
Paranoia maybe, but this is how people end up complaining they have been scammed. Paypal looks into each case respectively, what sassie is trying to say is that I could pay for everything and then [COLOR="Red"]instead of coming to deliver himself, he could have a large item (that would take a courier) delivered to me, so £10-£15 delivery, to Paypal, it would look like I've received a large item[/COLOR]. If that makes any sense?


Are you waiting for delivery of a large item? If not, and the seller doesn't turn up with your auction win, just don't sign for any big boxes you aren't expecting - it's not like it's going to sneak through the letterbox with the gas bill :p
banned 1 Like #39
if it was me, i would contatc the seller explain they are not covered, explain why and see what they say, and go from there
#40
tinkerbell28
Yes and that's just paranoi really, he sounds more like a noob seller, who would rathe rget the petrol cash andd eliver himself forgetting the fact he is leaving himself wide open.

Just say I am totally wrong and he sends a heap of crap through the post, you would win a SNAD, if the item he sent is not yours it's that simple. Pictures of what he sent, the packaging from around said item, weight, dimensions. His money is probably on hold too.

It's right to be cautious on ebay, but if it's too much don't bid there. You want to pay cash right? Taking this theory into account he could come and club you over ther head, take the cash and run, so no way is !00% safe, but pp will cover a snad.


Don't frighten the OP further,he may start thinking some Polish renegades will turn up:p

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