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EBAY - BACK TO THEIR THIEVING WAYS.....

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9y, 3w agoPosted 9 years, 3 weeks ago
Anyone listing DVD's, games, books, etc (Media products to use eBay's defintion) that's got used to using the Gallery feature for 5p might want to take note that this has now reverted to the old price of 15p per listing.
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9y, 3w agoPosted 9 years, 3 weeks ago
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banned#1
what a bunch of robbers.. but people pay it so there you go :roll:
#2
Ebay is good IF you run a business and can balance the profit to loss over a high volume. For normal sellers who just shift their unwanted valuables (tat) though, no worth the hassle.

I really used to love ebay but can hardly face going there any more. For anybody nosey enough my ebay ID is Beanyrat (well one of them) ;-) :lol:
#3
eBay's dying a death. The novelty's worn off and it's too full of scams and fee-grabbing website owners. Tbh.

I do not use my ID any more, it's now my dad's.
#4
eBay fees are a joke now. By the time you have paid ebay and paypal, 12% of the price is gone. Ridiculous.
#5
The problem is it's still THE only place to get the publicity to sell your unwanted items.

I still hope that Google will start to take them on with Google Checkout...
#6
highguyuk
The problem is it's still THE only place to get the publicity to sell your unwanted items.

I still hope that Google will start to take them on with Google Checkout...


I have sold maybe 5 maybe 6 items on ebay, and got to admit that it is cheaper than my local paper to sell.

I put my son's Wii on yesterday, and it sold this morning for ~£220, if I had put it in my local paper the cost would've been £35 whether I sold it or not. :-(
#7
thesaint
I put my son's Wii on yesterday, and it sold this morning for ~£220, if I had put it in my local paper the cost would've been £35 whether I sold it or not. :-(


:?

Don't you have this where you come from : http://www.adtrader.co.uk/ ?

Fair enough, you get more than a few timewasters ringing, but i've sold quite a lot of tat through them (sourced from ebay :lol:) at a tidy fee free profit:w00t:
banned#8
our local paper does free adds to the value of £200, but must admit unless it really is something really popular and sought after it is a waste of time, i suppose not enough people looking really
#9
Shengis
:?

Don't you have this where you come from : http://www.adtrader.co.uk/ ?

Fair enough, you get more than a few timewasters ringing, but i've sold quite a lot of tat through them (sourced from ebay :lol:) at a tidy fee free profit:w00t:


I've never heard of it, i'll have a gander later. :thumbsup:
#10
Dont even get me started on Ebays fees
banned#11
saxo_appeal
Dont even get me started on Ebays fees


oh go on, you know you want to, and im bored **** less:oops:
#12
sassie
our local paper does free adds to the value of £200, but must admit unless it really is something really popular and sought after it is a waste of time, i suppose not enough people looking really


Are you not popular and sought after? :p

My local paper has a free limit of £100

£35 without a photo. :x
£45 with a photo. :x
#13
saxo_appeal
Dont even get me started on Ebays fees


sassie
oh go on, you know you want to, and im bored **** less:oops:


Yeah go on, you know you want to... :lol:
1 Like #14
I can remember sitting with friends telling them what a phenomonom Ebay was and that anyone who had any sense would start up a business using them.

That was around 5-6 years ago and in that time they have managed to turn themselves from a reputable, innovative, fair and honest company into a disreputable, greedy, nasty scammers paradise who eat up any business that is any way a remote threat to them whilst continuing to cream off every last drop of income they can out of their users.
Couple that with the less than transparent workings of Paypal and you now have a company I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy.

Don't get me wrong they still have their uses, more so if you're a up and coming criminal or you need to launder some money quickly, and I still use them but very infrequently and only as a last resort.

Of course that's just my honest opinion and Ebay will tell you there are millions who disagree. But then Ebay have been hiding their head (and their customer services and their phone number) in the proverbial sand now for quite a few years, preferring to shift operations to places where they can count their pounds/euros/dollars in peace away from unhappy customers and prying eyes.

Ebay...........Such a SHAM(E)








Right, I feel a little better now.
#15
I think the best thing about ebay is the 'Help boards'. If you go on there asking for advice becasue you're a noob whos just been scammed, chances are you'll end up with an email from one of the mods THREATENING YOU with sanctions against YOUR Ebay account! Yep it's true. Try to highlight any sort of fraud and YOU risk losing your account, not the fraudster.

Mind you, it is great fun over there for an arguement if you don't care one way or the other what they do to your accounts :lol: The perfect repository for the grassy knoller society ;-)

Oh and if you're not easily offended I did a screen grab ages ago of a post by one of the fellows I used to have a laugh with over there : http://www.shengis.net/eby1/Greenroom777.jpg

I think he pretty much sums up a lot of peoples thoughts on Ebay in general :lol: (Oh and they DIDN'T cancel his account, just deleted his post LOL).
#16
Shengis
I think the best thing about ebay is the 'Help boards'. If you go on there asking for advice becasue you're a noob whos just been scammed, chances are you'll end up with an email from one of the mods THREATENING YOU with sanctions against YOUR Ebay account! Yep it's true. Try to highlight any sort of fraud and YOU risk losing your account, not the fraudster.

Mind you, it is great fun over there for an arguement if you don't care one way or the other what they do to your accounts :lol: The perfect repository for the grassy knoller society ;-)

Oh and if you're not easily offended I did a screen grab ages ago of a post by one of the fellows I used to have a laugh with over there : http://www.shengis.net/eby1/Greenroom777.jpg

I think he pretty much sums up a lot of peoples thoughts on Ebay in general :lol: (Oh and they DIDN'T cancel his account, just deleted his post LOL).


LOL ! Well I normally would never condone that sort of language but there are always exceptions. Good for him !!

As for the boards well it was Q & A wasn't it ? Supposed to stand for Question and Answer but
Quarrel and Argue was it's better name.

Some good people on there though and the other boards. Shame the pinks never helped as much, a real joke.
#17
Are they still charging the inflated fnf fees, despite putting the listing prices back up?

I also noticed this posted a wee while ago


Following on from our announcement on 10th August 2007 we wanted to let you know that from mid-January we’ll be expanding our ongoing efforts to protect eBay buyers and sellers by only allowing PayPal to be offered as a payment option on certain listings.

We’ve looked at the results of the earlier payment restrictions that we put in place in August, and we’ve already seen a decrease in transactions where eBayers have been left dissatisfied. The safety of the eBay trading environment and prevention of fraud is very important to us, so we’ll continue to monitor and closely analyse the listings where we’ve restricted payment methods.

From around 10th January, PayPal will need to be the only payment method for sales in the following listings:

* those that are set for a one-day auction
* those in the following categories:
o Computing > Software
o Consumer Electronics > MP3 Players
o Wholesale & Job Lots > Mobile & Home Phones
o Business, Office & Industrial > Industrial Supply / MRO

If you would like to sell in the categories, you’ll need to sign up for a PayPal account if you don’t already have one:

* Sign up for a PayPal account
* Learn more about how PayPal protects the buyers/sellers

We appreciate your continuing support in helping to keep eBay a great place to buy and sell.

Regards,

The eBay Team


Can you imagine if they ever actually spoke the truth? "Blah blah it's for your benefit" - yeah right, more like 'We make you use Paypal we get more monies for our pockets, yays!!".
#18
Talking about Paypal and how we all know its scammer free etc.... A real world example of Ebays 'improvements'. For the sake of arguement I can sell you a fully working* fruit machine for £80 if you want to pick it up from me. Now, to list this on ebay I would HAVE to have a valid gaming board licence and take paypal. Oh but hold on, its too big to send as well as not being cost effective, hence I expect you the buyer to come and collect it. I also expect you to get it home and contact paypal saying you want your money refunded as I have no online trackable proof that you have the item..... Of course, this paypal restriction is to protect you the buyer because obviously ANYBODY can get a gaming board license, it's not like the gaming board do checks on their members or anything......

*with a 'disabled' coin mech (wink, wink :lol:).

Clown shoes.

You know, I do sometimes wonder if Ebay are actually right and it's us lot that are being too cynical.
[admin]#19
I used to sell quite a lot on ebay but it's more hassle than it's worth now. The market's flooded with rip-offs and fraudulent listings and the fees are just ridiculous.
By the time Paypal and Ebay take their cut for doing absolutely naff all, it's a waste of time.
[mod]#20
I still manage to make a good profit with the things i sell. :)
AVForums is a pretty good place to sell, used to be good to sell/buy on here but there are too many scammers nowdays so at least with eBay you are covered.
#21
...not to mention the costs of sending it via Royal Mail. :-(
banned#22
Starlet
Are they still charging the inflated fnf fees, despite putting the listing prices back up?

I also noticed this posted a wee while ago



Can you imagine if they ever actually spoke the truth? "Blah blah it's for your benefit" - yeah right, more like 'We make you use Paypal we get more monies for our pockets, yays!!".


they are all categories with a higher than normal level of fraud. By insisting you take paypal they are making it safer for the buyer.
I don't see what the problem is with paypal anyway, when i sell I always get a higher price for listing with paypal.
#23
colinsunderland
they are all categories with a higher than normal level of fraud. By insisting you take paypal they are making it safer for the buyer.
I don't see what the problem is with paypal anyway, when i sell I always get a higher price for listing with paypal.


I suppose most people would like the choice?

I do not believe ebay do it for the reasons they give though.

If they receive more money through 'Paypal only' listings, why would fees go up? If the fraud level dropped, surely that means less man hours chasing fraudulent transactions? :thinking:
[mod]#24
thesaint;1404508
I suppose most people would like the choice?

I do not believe ebay do it for the reasons they give though.

If they receive more money through 'Paypal only' listings, why would fees go up? If the fraud level dropped, surely that means less man hours chasing fraudulent transactions? :thinking:

I'd imagine eBay take the same stance as this site - "If you don't like it then leave and go somewhere else".

Plenty of alternatives, it's just they don't get seen as much as eBay and you'd probably make less.
#25
i use to buy and sell craft items on ebay for a number of years but when the item is a 99P'er it is a total waste of my time after numerous fees, i havent sold on there for months now.
#26
what about tazbar??
#27
Most people would love it if someone was to start up and give eBay some serious competition, Google would have the power to do something.
[mod]#28
Money Spinning;1405139
Most people would love it if someone was to start up and give eBay some serious competition, Google would have the power to do something.

I'd be willing to give something else a go but eBay has so many established active viewers and bidders now that it will be hard to play catch up and reach the same number of people.
#29
Tazbar.co.uk is doing ok, it has had tv ads etc, so maybe worth a shot at trying no listing fees either!
#30
Syzable
I'd be willing to give something else a go but eBay has so many established active viewers and bidders now that it will be hard to play catch up and reach the same number of people.


It it was an established Online brand like Google then that's probably about the only way it would work. There are plenty of unsatisfied users of Ebay who would happily give "Googlebay" a chance I'm sure if the benefits warranted taking the slight gamble of a (temporary) drop in your items viewing figures. The only thing is....if they started tomorrow & were successful would they really be any less greedy than Ebay/Paypal are 5 years down the line??!?

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