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Ebay desperate for money now, charging if you withdraw item

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2y, 1m agoPosted 2 years, 1 month ago
This morning I had an invoice from Ebay for £5.20. I immediately went to ask why am I being charged as I sold nothing, although I did place an add for an Iphone, I withdrew it after selling on gumtree. The person I spoke to gave me a full refund but advised me eBay policy is now to charge and directed me to the following paragraph at the end of the fees page.
If you end an auction early and buyers have already placed bids, you may be charged a fee. This fee is the same as a final value fee, based on the item price when you ended the auction. You won't pay a fee if you cancel your auction within the first 24 hours of listing your item, or if we have to end your auction.
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It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.

Edited By: cdm22 on Dec 05, 2014 11:31
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anything to deter time wasters from closing auctions early is only a good thing in my book
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cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.

Fair for who?

Everyone bidding on it; it's annoying when they withdraw it from sale because it doesn't reach the price they want.
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cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.
Fair for who?

The people bidding on it! Its bloody annoying when you are winning an auction, so not bidding on others, only for the seller to withdraw the item from auction.

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1 Like #1
Actually noticed this when i listed an item the other day i went to end the auction as im going on holiday and noticed it saying you may be charged to end the auction.

A bit like ebay automatically putting people into the wordwide seller program rather than just asking sellers if they want to be apart of it.

I don't bother using ebay to sell much anymore as only sell the odd item through them now
20 Likes #2
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.

Edited By: cdm22 on Dec 05, 2014 11:31
#3
cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.

Fair for who?
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cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.
Fair for who?

The people bidding on it! Its bloody annoying when you are winning an auction, so not bidding on others, only for the seller to withdraw the item from auction.
#5
Wow! there was 10% final value fees + paypal charges... then they applied another 10% on postage!... and now this!! Ebay is becoming ridiculously GREEDY day after day!!
#6
cdm22
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cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.
Fair for who?
The people bidding on it! Its bloody annoying when you are winning an auction, so not bidding on others, only for the seller to withdraw the item from auction.

That's not the point. If Ebay didn't want you to be able to cancel an auction, there simply shouldn't be the option to. Charging £5 or so to cancel it is terrible :)
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cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.

Fair for who?

Everyone bidding on it; it's annoying when they withdraw it from sale because it doesn't reach the price they want.
12 Likes #8
anything to deter time wasters from closing auctions early is only a good thing in my book
#9
chocci
anything to deter time wasters from closing auctions early is only a good thing in my book

Time wasting, what, entering an amount (or even doing it automatically with a simple click) and waiting? The only persons time it's wasting is the person that set up the auction.
#10
It's always warned this if I have withdrawn a auction... but never been charged though. If you could specify a auction close time etc it wouldn't be so bad. hate the fact it's either 1,3,5,7 or 30 days... why not 4 days etc... makes.no difference to ebay
#11
den of thieves run by thieves....
#12
I had this when I received my invoice today.

I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.

Thieves

Edited By: WRXiceman on Dec 05, 2014 12:41
#13
ceres
rev6
cdm22
It seems fair enough if you are removing an item from an auction where people are already bidding on it. This will help stop people removing items from auction just because they are not getting the price they want.
Fair for who?
It's a marketplace - buyers need to have confidence that if they bid on an item in good faith and they make the winning bid then they will get the item. There's enough whinging about non-paying buyers - it cuts both ways. The charging of fees on withdrawn items isn't new and it's there in the T&C. If you don't like it, don't withdraw itmes or don't sell on ebay.

I don't sell on Ebay for a start. Second, they shouldn't allow you to cancel auctions full stop. Charging you to do so is another way for Ebay to profit.
#14
ceres
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.

I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.

Thieves

If you followed the correct procedure and opened a non-paying buyer case for those that didn't pay, your fees would have been returned to you. If you chose to relist without following the process, then that's your problem, not ebay's.

Considering the time frame between selling the item and me receiving the invoice, it wasn't much leeway and that doesn't make it right anyway regardless of the procedure.
#15
Completely given up on eBay now, not a place to sell things anymore - more and more charges and no protection for buyers.
#16
Stopped selling on ebay years ago, greedy little piggies already double revenue with paypal.

Think Ebay may end up having to remove it, can't see trading standards loving being charged which is essentially a cancellation fee, when nothings been sold to the client.

Edited By: Adam2050 on Dec 05, 2014 13:08
#17
Yeah fell for this too. Listed my macbook, sold it to a co-worker instead so ended the ebay auction 5 days early. BOOM ebay charged me anyway!
#18
WRXiceman
ceres
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.
I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.
Thieves
If you followed the correct procedure and opened a non-paying buyer case for those that didn't pay, your fees would have been returned to you. If you chose to relist without following the process, then that's your problem, not ebay's.
Considering the time frame between selling the item and me receiving the invoice, it wasn't much leeway and that doesn't make it right anyway regardless of the procedure.

How were they meant to know then?
1 Like #19
If you're going to get charged anyway there is no stopping you just letting the auction end and pretending to post the item out.
2 Likes #20
It does annoy me when people list something saying "advertised elsewhere so I may end auction early". Nothing worse than bidding on something you want to buy and the seller has taken it off for any number of reasons no relating to a mistake.

If you want to sell something for a set price use Buy It Now or list somewhere else. The fee has always been mentioned when you goto cancel an item.
#21
thejonty
WRXiceman
ceres
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.
I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.
Thieves
If you followed the correct procedure and opened a non-paying buyer case for those that didn't pay, your fees would have been returned to you. If you chose to relist without following the process, then that's your problem, not ebay's.
Considering the time frame between selling the item and me receiving the invoice, it wasn't much leeway and that doesn't make it right anyway regardless of the procedure.

How were they meant to know then?

I didn't say they did know?
#22
ceres
WRXiceman
ceres
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.

I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.

Thieves

If you followed the correct procedure and opened a non-paying buyer case for those that didn't pay, your fees would have been returned to you. If you chose to relist without following the process, then that's your problem, not ebay's.

Considering the time frame between selling the item and me receiving the invoice, it wasn't much leeway and that doesn't make it right anyway regardless of the procedure.

So you relisted without having opened cases. That's your problem.

Ok, thanks for your input.
1 Like #23
Taken from eBay -
You might end your listing early because:
The item is no longer available for sale. (Please note that you shouldn't list an item on eBay if there's a chance you'll sell it elsewhere before the listing ends.)
#24
Easy ways around it.

Cancel all the bids and then end it.

If a BIN, reduce the item to 99p and end it quickly.

You will only get charged fees on the 99p
#25
WRXiceman
thejonty
WRXiceman
ceres
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.
I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.
Thieves
If you followed the correct procedure and opened a non-paying buyer case for those that didn't pay, your fees would have been returned to you. If you chose to relist without following the process, then that's your problem, not ebay's.
Considering the time frame between selling the item and me receiving the invoice, it wasn't much leeway and that doesn't make it right anyway regardless of the procedure.
How were they meant to know then?
I didn't say they did know?

That's why there is a procedure... So they know.
#26
rev6
chocci
anything to deter time wasters from closing auctions early is only a good thing in my book

Time wasting, what, entering an amount (or even doing it automatically with a simple click) and waiting? The only persons time it's wasting is the person that set up the auction.
Its wasting my time if I want something and bid on it, only to find its been taken off early
#27
rev6
chocci
anything to deter time wasters from closing auctions early is only a good thing in my book

Time wasting, what, entering an amount (or even doing it automatically with a simple click) and waiting? The only persons time it's wasting is the person that set up the auction.

Some people will miss out on other auctions (BIN) if there's an auction taking place that they think will sell for less.
#28
I noticed this a while ago. I tend to list stuff on Gumtree and if it doesnt sell, then I put it on eBay. Except about 95% of the time once I list something on Gumtree, someone locally offers to buy it and actually turns up to buy it.
Generally I list items for 5-7 days and I have ended auctions after say 30 hours and last time I did I was told that from now on if ending an auction with bids on, you'll be charged the 10%. If there's no bids on it and it's been more than 24 hours since listing it, you can only end an auction early twice in a year, third time and above you'll be charged the 10%. Actually I think that rule applies to Buy it now items as well.
Since introducing this new rule I've only removed one item before the listing end and it was a BIN item - I only list BIN's now for what I sell as I have a set price I want.
I might have to put my laptop on as Gumtree is proving useless but, Id rather not give any money to eBay. If I didnt send an item, someone can neg me but, if a buyer doesnt pay (even using a buy it now) I cant leave neg feedback saying they're a time waster, or if I do have an auction, look to see who might be a time waster :|.
#29
bex85
I noticed this a while ago. I tend to list stuff on Gumtree and if it doesnt sell, then I put it on eBay.|.

ebay now own gumtree....

:( sad times.
#30
At least ebay pay their taxes! Oh no hang on, paid £600000 instead of £70 million they should have. Robbing a holes.
2 Likes #31
doober
At least ebay pay their taxes! Oh no hang on, paid £600000 instead of £70 million they should have. Robbing a holes.

Wrong, they pay what is required by UK law.
Would you pay extra tax for no reason??


it is not ebay you should be blaming, you should be challenging the government to change the law (which I understand requires pulling out the EU)
#32
WRXiceman
I had this when I received my invoice today.

I sold ONE item but the buyer didn't pay, so I re-listed, and again the buyer didn't pay.
The third time I sold it, it was actually paid for. But on my invoice it shows the 10% fee for each time it was listed.

Thieves

Did you file a claim against the two non payers as this is how you get the fees back for non paying buyers
#33
I reckon final value fee is too high. Say if you're selling something like an 2nd hand iPhone worth £300, eBay and PayPal will take away a final value fee of 10%=£30, PayPal fee of 3.4%+20p=£10.4, so you will only get £300-30-10.4=£259.6, an easy £40-ish loose.

How much will eBay and PayPal gain then? Not only the £40-ish from such each individual trade, but also as most seller won't withdraw money instantly (I don't know if possible though), they will keep these money in PayPal, for at least a week on average. It is easy to invest this money on something and get at least 4% AER. Sounds small? Think again! How many seller are selling and how much in total the final value sums up?

In the contrast, Alibaba, the Chinese company, owns the biggest online trading platform in China, which named Taobao (eBay-like) and Zhifubao (PayPal-like), they charge 0% on trade and transaction. Even more, users can invest money into Zhifubao (up to 100M CNY or say £10M) and gain a much higher interest than bank!

If Alibaba can profit without charging buyers and sellers, I see no reason eBay and PayPal have to charge that huge amount to gain profit.

Some further story: I once bought a £200-ish product from Amazon Black Friday deal, and after one week or two I found I didn't like it. Instead returning it back to Amazon for nothing, I decided to sell it on eBay for a small profit. I hence start an auction and got sold for £220. Was happy that I gained nearly £20 but after a month I received an invoice from eBay took not only all my profit away. What a pathetic decision I've ever made! Luckily my auction was cash on collection so didn't loose too much by paying PayPal fee. BTW, eBay has a loophole that cancelled auction is free. However rather than I cheat eBay that I cancelled the auction, I nicely confirmed the trade :( a nice gesture in return of £20 "penalty" sigh....
#34
LOL, eBay the 'Auction' site that isn't an auction site and is desperately trying to claw back every penny it can because of the people not using it anymore....and people are surprised!
#35
What's the best selling pages after ebay?
banned 1 Like #36
ebay is not gumtree. you are paying for a massive infrastructure to help you sell.
banned 1 Like #37
Likely2
LOL, eBay the 'Auction' site that isn't an auction site and is desperately trying to claw back every penny it can because of the people not using it anymore....and people are surprised!

Yeah thats why their profits increase year by year because they are desperately trying to claw back every penny :|
#38
Chiptivo
bex85
I noticed this a while ago. I tend to list stuff on Gumtree and if it doesnt sell, then I put it on eBay.|.

ebay now own gumtree....

:( sad times.
I know :-(. At least they dont charge though.....yet. I imagine its probably only a matter of time though. Ive noticed theyre a lot stricter now though since eBay got involved.
banned#39
ewwaxo
ebay is not gumtree. you are paying for a massive infrastructure to help you sell.

This is a great point and This is what most seem to forget, People complain about the fees but would they sell the item or sell as much if it wasnt for eBay? I think not.
banned 1 Like #40
bazzamone
ewwaxo
ebay is not gumtree. you are paying for a massive infrastructure to help you sell.

This is a great point and This is what most seem to forget, People complain about the fees but would they sell the item or sell as much if it wasnt for eBay? I think not.

ebay is built on trust- you are not going to get that on gumtree.

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