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#1
Political correctness?
#2
Greed ,selfishness,lack of morals,ignorance,breakdown of communities,the gutter press...there's a lot right as well but we tend to focus more on the wrongs.
#3
currychops
Greed ,selfishness,lack of morals,ignorance,breakdown of communities,the gutter press...there's a lot right as well but we tend to focus more on the wrongs.

what is right then in your views
#4
Surely it'd be easier to write a couple of sentences about what is right with society today and take the rest of the afternoon off?
#5
marshallka
tell me more.

Try to talk about an 'incovenient' subject such as immigration, crime, EU, multi-culti, diversity, global warming and such and you'll be immediately branded as a racist, nationalist, BNP activist or xxx-phobic (where xxx represents whatever group your opponent has in his/her mind). That's of course if your opinion is different from PC-accepted one.
I know it is strange to hear such thing from a foreigner, but I am so sick of this stuff...
#6
marshallka
what is right then in your views


Are we talking British society??...if so ...less poverty, better healthcare, less racism, and better education ...OK some would argue otherwise but it's just my view.
#7
marshallka
what is right then in your views


The fact that despite the problems in society already mentioned, we are still significantly better off than many other countries.

e.g. although far from being perfect at least we actually have: a democratic system of government, free healthcare, free education, a social security system, a national minimum wage, a relatively fair legal system, freedom of expression etc
#8
Scorpius
The fact that despite the problems in society already mentioned, we are still significantly better off than many other countries.

e.g. although far from being perfect at least we actually have: a democratic system of government, free healthcare, free education, a social security system, a national minimum wage, a relatively fair legal system, freedom of expression etc

a lot of people are complaining that we have no freedom of expression now. i agree about being better off than a lot of countries with everything free (although we do pay taxes and national insurance) but there seems to be so much hate among the young and why. things have changed in society here and are doing daily but what are the things making us into the nation of complainers.
#9
marshallka
a lot of people are complaining that we have no freedom of expression now.


I can see what people are getting at when they say that, there have been laws bought in the past few years which seem to have the express intent of banning organised peaceful protests, to quote John F Kennedy "when you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable"

To say we have no freedom of expression however is a massive over-exageration, for example you are free to say whatever you like about the government, the monarchy or the police without having to worry about a knock on the door in the middle of the night.
#10
Scorpius
I can see what people are getting at when they say that, there have been laws bought in the past few years which seem to have the express intent of banning organised peaceful protests, to quote John F Kennedy "when you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable"

To say we have no freedom of expression however is a massive over-exageration, for example you are free to say whatever you like about the government, the monarchy or the police without having to worry about a knock on the door in the middle of the night.

what about the young people, what puts so much hate into them. do we look back in history to see where it comes from and try to undertand that we are maybe a nation of confused individuals who have no idea what is expected of them. i still have my elders drilling in their views on what went wrong and when and then we are told to forgive and forget and get on with it. why is there so much hate
#11
Society is crumbling due to the influx of foreigners coming onto our shores, who have no desire or passion about this country, they want to sponge off the state or plot to blow us all up !!!!

I hate it when foreigners who are resident in the UK say they really hate the country & the way we live...........well F*** off then !!!
#12
ChrisUK
Society is crumbling due to the influx of foreigners coming onto our shores, who have no desire or passion about this country, they want to sponge off the state or plot to blow us all up !!!!

I hate it when foreigners who are resident in the UK say they really hate the country & the way we live...........well F*** off then !!!

its so hard for us as mothers to teach our children right and not brew up so much hate when these things ARE happening. what do we do then.
#13
Just been reading in the paper about a Muslim woman who had passed her course to be a PC.

At the ceremony, she wouldnt shake the hand of the police constible, as it was against her religion to touch "unknown men" - wtf ?? How is she going to perform her duties as a PC ???? What about arresting a male, oohhh sorry, I'm not allowed to touch them !!
#14
There are many many things wrong with this country but at the heart of almost all of them is simple ignorance. We don't just breed it, we celebrate it. Reality TV, kiss and tells etc. Look at all the popular people who come out of them, Jade, that Maureen woman who couldn't drive, the welfare abusing Lizzy from wife swap, dozens of others.

They are morons and/or scum and we plaster them across magazines and throw money at them like they are something to be proud of or look up to then wander around wondering why our kids haven't made something of themselves.

Our education system is a joke, our welfare system is a bigger joke, our culture is riddled with the idea that we are 'owed' something for simply existing. Workers do as little as possible and claim as much as possible then whinge when our economy is in the toilet because they're too stupid to link the two things.

Ignorance is what's wrong with society today. Intelligence and Knowledge should be lauded, teachers should be well paid but well audited and the useless ones dumped. The education system (and the NHS) should have the money being leeched out of our pockets by job dodgers and the welfare system. We shouldn't be rewarding young women for falling pregnant with their 5th kid by the age of 21. A solid work ethic should be ingrained into our young.

Basically there should be a lot less thick, workshy, people.
#15
TBH, I think a dose of National Service would kick many a dossers up the @ss !!
#16
Artemis
There are many many things wrong with this country but at the heart of almost all of them is simple ignorance. We don't just breed it, we celebrate it. Reality TV, kiss and tells etc. Look at all the popular people who come out of them, Jade, that Maureen woman who couldn't drive, the welfare abusing Lizzy from wife swap, dozens of others.

They are morons and/or scum and we plaster them across magazines and throw money at them like they are something to be proud of or look up to then wander around wondering why our kids haven't made something of themselves.

Our education system is a joke, our welfare system is a bigger joke, our culture is riddled with the idea that we are 'owed' something for simply existing. Workers do as little as possible and claim as much as possible then whinge when our economy is in the toilet because they're too stupid to link the two things.

Ignorance is what's wrong with society today. Intelligence and Knowledge should be lauded, teachers should be well paid but well audited and the useless ones dumped. The education system (and the NHS) should have the money being leeched out of our pockets by job dodgers and the welfare system. [COLOR="Red"]We shouldn't be rewarding young women for falling pregnant with their 5th kid by the age of 21[/COLOR]. A solid work ethic should be ingrained into our young.

Basically there should be a lot less thick, workshy, people.


I'd like to point out that its not always a womans fault when they become single mums on welfare, i was left on my own with 3 kids by my husband, i didnt choose for him to go and spent a long time trying to get him back,i met him when i was very young, still at school and chose then to become a mum/wife whilst my husband worked.ihad no qualifications or work experience,plus childcare is a big issue, i have however been looking for solutions, currently looking for open learning courses to do at home whilst looking after my children, hopefully come september when my youngest will start middle school i will at least have something to offer on my cv and have a tad of confidence to be starting with
#17
Sorry to hear of your domestic situation loupomm..for some reason I assumed you were a male with a fetish for Robbie!!!...hope it all works out for you...it's tough raising 3 children on your own...I speak from experience.
#18
loupomm
I'd like to point out that its not always a womans fault when they become single mums on welfare, i was left on my own with 3 kids by my husband, i didnt choose for him to go and spent a long time trying to get him back,i met him when i was very young, still at school and chose then to become a mum/wife whilst my husband worked.ihad no qualifications or work experience,plus childcare is a big issue, i have however been looking for solutions, currently looking for open learning courses to do at home whilst looking after my children, hopefully come september when my youngest will start middle school i will at least have something to offer on my cv and have a tad of confidence to be starting with


Why is your husband not paying child support and alimony?
#19
Artemis
Why is your husband not paying child support and alimony?



I now get £10 A FORTNIGHT through csa, ive argued for more...pointless,

i tried self employment a while ago, selling wedding dress and kids clothes, very sporatic, i need stability for my kids, i didnt have the appropriate outlay to keep it steady.


thank you its not easy currychops :), i do get very defensive too, when some presume thats its 'our' fault for being single parents, im also quite embarrased to admit to people i meet that im on income support, which i shouldn't have to be, but it has a stigma, like i said before, i was married, had 3 kids, didnt see it coming of course, not all single mums are the same
#20
Society has a problem when a premiership footballer earns more money in one week than a surgeon performing life saving 15hr operations does in one year.
#21
sintass
Society has a problem when a premiership footballer earns more money in one week than a surgeon performing life saving 15hr operations does in one year.



i agree :thumbsup:
#22
loupomm
I now get £10 A FORTNIGHT through csa, ive argued for more...pointless


That would be a failure in the system and while obviously unfortunate for you not really what I was talking about.

In an ideal society, you shouldn't be on welfare either, your ex husband should be paying his share of the childrens welfare and an appropriate amount of alimony. People should be held to the responsibility of having children.
#23
LOU is being "punished" by the CSA because she is on benefits....This makes my blood boil. The goverment says that women (or man) who work are entitled to 25% of the absent parents wages pre tax!!!! But if you claim a benefit CSA payments are seen as an income and effect the amount you are allowed hence the £10 payment.

Then they go on about child poverty. Im glad to hear about the courses lou....good luck :)

I am no longer with the father of my kids..That was my decision...tbh it was the best decision i ever made.

I would like to just defend myself by saying i work 2 jobs.
#24
BECKYBOO
LOU is being "punished" by the CSA because she is on benefits....This makes my blood boil. The goverment says that women (or man) who work are entitled to 25% of the absent parents wages pre tax!!!! But if you claim a benefit CSA payments are seen as an income and effect the amount you are allowed hence the £10 payment.


I found this out myself a few months ago from a friend who's paying £150 a month to the CSA, most of which goes straight to Gordon Brown. He's very happy to pay as much as he can afford to support his son, not so keen on being screwed by another stealth tax. It's disgusting the government are getting away with this.
#25
Its so difficult, not all single parents have the means to be able to work like local child carers may not be available i know that in the school holidays i am going to have to pay £190 a week for an out of school club for my 2 kids as i dont have family near by to help me.

I suppose this is just a way to try and and get some to go back to work. because they will get the whole CSA payment then.
#26
Scorpius
I found this out myself a few months ago from a friend who's paying £150 a month to the CSA, most of which goes straight to Gordon Brown. He's very happy to pay as much as he can afford to support his son, not so keen on being screwed by another stealth tax. It's disgusting the government are getting away with this.


you are right people think it is the expartners fault and sometimes it is but most of the time it is instantly taken from wages and the parent with the children hardly sees any of it .so it is noones fault but the goverments
#27
What makes me angry is the scum who can't be arsed to get off their arses and get a job and then claim us working tax payers money but doing F*** all, so whos the mug?
#28
I think a big problem in this country is that everyone is selfish. Everyone blames 'someone else' no matter what happens. The education system is pathetic in some areas. It totally depends on the school, i come from The north east originally and the school i went to was dirty, cold, toilets were mingin, teachers are more bothered about if you are wearing the uniform and what hair style you have more than weather you are learning anything. personally i think kids shouldnt have to wear a full uniform (maybe just certain attire) as they need to learn from an early age to make choices and kids dont have to make to many non important choises. they cant express themselfs being told what to wear, what to eat, what to learn etc. i think if they could wear what they like they could be themselfs more and learn to make these everyday choises (fair enough the school would look all unco) but who cares? if kids are learning and getting better education who cares what they wear? also schools put to much pressure on parents. ppl blame parents when the kids go off rails. i blame schools as they spend half their life there. the school should do anything to make the kids happy there. not be there just to tell them off and put them in detention. i always found i enjoyed going to the lessons when i liked my teacher, and i did better in those subjects.

i now live in carlisle...and my girlfriend came from a school 10 miles away and by what she tells me, its a whole different story.

anyway i know it has to work with everyone....

talking of CSA my EX step father left when my 2 sisters were about 6 there now 14,15 and he hasnt done anything or paid even 1p. its a complete joke.

ive got a lot of problems with society i could go on for hours lol but ill just say...if everyone just stopped judging people by what they wear, how they talk, how inteligent or uninteligent they are, what size, colour, shape they are. this world may get a long.

personally nothing shocks me anymore. Ppl are nasty. i think its funny how someone can sit and be so politically correct about racial issues then say someone is so dumb and ignorant. calling someone for not being inteligent is as bad as calling someone for not being english.
1 Like #29
marshallka
i am doing a project on what is wrong with society today and would like anyones views on this...

what is wrong with society? Simple, hedonism, materialism, hypocrisy, selfishness, and apathy, with their root cause atheism. The belief in nothing, which ultimately also has to mean the belief in no such thing as right and wrong, or morals. A philosphy of life that says there are no boundaries, there are no limits other than those i impose on myself. A mindset which ultimately with several sequences of cause and effect, and several genrations of progression ultimately ends up leading to the stage of hedonism, materialism, yadda, yadda.

If greed isn't seen as wrong, it will be seen as good, if greed is good, more poverty will exist than if it was seen as bad.
If fornication is allowed, adultery will be rife, if adultery is rife, family life disintegrates, if family life disintegrates, problem children are born, problem children lead to a society full of problems.
Fornication+Alcohol = 70% of all rapes, this is just as obvious as Kids+Guns= Certain No of Deaths.

You get the message the existence of one thing opens up, is neccessary for the possibily of the next event to occur.

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