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sancho1983 Avatar
6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
Ok, this might sound really stupid, i thought i got it, but i don't!

Who would be prime minister if there's a hung parliament?

I understand the concept of hung parliament, if no party has a majority of seats.

Chances are Labour will have the 'most' seats, but not the most votes, because they win their seats by smaller margins. But if Labour win the most seats does that mean Gordon will stay in power, even if there's a hung parliament?

Does that mean it's virtually impossible for Nick Clegg to be PM, Lib Dems would have to have the most seats?

Just when i think i understand it all i confuse myself!!

This thread isn't intended for political debates/arguments Re: policies, purely to educate people such as me who don't fully understand the system!!
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6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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#1
Ron Jeremy
#2
mightyreds
Ron Jeremy


He said election, not erection:whistling:
[mod]#3
Ron Jeremy.
#4
Not a 'well hung' Parliament.......
#5
skusey
He said election, not erection:whistling:


sancho1983
Not a 'well hung' Parliament.......


:-D
#6
It depends on which parties decide to comit to a coalition and the leader of the party with the most votes is normally the prime minister. Eg Tories and lib dems decide to join forces and the tories have more mps than the lib dems then Cameron would be PM.
#7
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8427233.stm

good guide here . (well, until i read it 5 mins ago i didnt know what one was so i dont know if its good, but im sure it'll be ok)
#8
The coalition that forms the govt will chose the PM. LIB/LAB chances are Clegg or Brown for LIB/CON chances are Clegg or Cameron. The largest party in the coaltion normally provides the PM. Hope this helps-who is R. Jeremy by the way?
#9
Ok, so when they say labour are third in the poles that doesn't relate to seats, just public opinion (and has no real meaning due to the system we have)?

Surely if there's a coalition then it will always be brown or Cameron?

Would a coalition have to agree on everything? Or would it be on an act by act basis?
#10
sancho1983
Ok, so when they say labour are third in the poles that doesn't relate to seats, just public opinion (and has no real meaning due to the system we have)?

Surely if there's a coalition then it will always be brown or Cameron?

Would a coalition have to agree on everything? Or would it be on an act by act basis?


Yeah it will be unlikely to be Clegg.
The coalition will try to compromise for a lot of things and their will various politcal deals. An example will be we will support x idea if you support are idea y.
banned#11
Who would be prime minister if there's a hung parliament?

Saddam Hussein,

after all, he does have experience
#12
dananana
Yeah it will be unlikely to be Clegg.
The coalition will try to compromise for a lot of things and their will various politcal deals. An example will be we will support x idea if you support are idea y.


I am not sure about that LIB are currently second in opinion poles. If they come second and lablour a third but Conservatives no outright majority then in a LIB/LAB coalition LIB could be the bigger party and hence Clegg the PM.
#13
if you struggle with these concepts you shouldnt be voting.

atleast you're actively trying to find out mind. i'm in sixthform (6/2, but have an august birthday so cant vote) and seeing some of the people who can now vote it is a joke.
#14
Mighty Anorak
The coalition that forms the govt will chose the PM. LIB/LAB chances are Clegg or Brown for LIB/CON chances are Clegg or Cameron. The largest party in the coaltion normally provides the PM. Hope this helps-who is R. Jeremy by the way?


Ron jeremy - Fat Ugly porn star that has banged more birds than casanova !
#15
Capt Kirk
I am not sure about that LIB are currently second in opinion poles. If they come second and lablour a third but Conservatives no outright majority then in a LIB/LAB coalition LIB could be the bigger party and hence Clegg the PM.


Hang on, I was getting it then! Surely if Conservative win, but no majority, they will 'win' and Cameron will try and form coalition with lib dems.

Can clegg turn around and say no to them? Would they then dissolve parliament again and have another election?
#16
Capt Kirk
I am not sure about that LIB are currently second in opinion poles. If they come second and lablour a third but Conservatives no outright majority then in a LIB/LAB coalition LIB could be the bigger party and hence Clegg the PM.


First past the post system. It is possible for a party to have the majority of the votes but still be the second party as they may have less seats than the biggest party. Here is a good link.
#17
emhaslam
if you struggle with these concepts you shouldnt be voting.

atleast you're actively trying to find out mind. i'm in sixthform (6/2, but have an august birthday so cant vote) and seeing some of the people who can now vote it is a joke.


Wow, 14 posts before this comment was made! Tbh I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent, but have never voted before, didn't at the last one and couldn't before, so never really looked into it.
#18
sancho1983
Hang on, I was getting it then! Surely if Conservative win, but no majority, they will 'win' and Cameron will try and form coalition with lib dems.

Can clegg turn around and say no to them? Would they then dissolve parliament again and have another election?


Quote from the beeb "Another possibility is for the biggest party to form a minority government with no agreements with other parties and just try to form majorities in favour of each individual bill as it comes up.

If no party is prepared to go down one of these paths then parliament will be dissolved again and there will be another election, although in effect that is relatively unlikely to happen because two elections so close together would be unpopular and the result would probably be the same. "
#19
arcangel111
Ron jeremy - Fat Ugly porn star that has banged more birds than casanova !


I remember now-saw him on a tv documentary about porn. Not only fat, ugly but also bald as I recall.
banned#20
Oh yeah because thats how he started his career, at the age of 50+

Envi all u like, u will never be him or bang as many women as he has or be as rich as him. Bad mouth people at their old age all u like if it makes u feel better.
#21
The confusion you're having is becuase in parliament majority means over 50%. So a hung paraliament is when the 'winning' party has less than 50% of the seats. This results in the 'winning' party being in power with their Leader as PM.
A hung parliament doesn't usaually pass major changes to the country becuase if the other partys both disagree (or team up with each other) then no major changes will be introduced.

The First past the post system isn't technically democratic, but it usally means partys last longer in power. Italy have a method where you get so many MP's in gov depending on the amount of votes they get across the country. But this results in many coalitions which usaully fall within a few months.
#22
This thread is funny ... two inter-twined conversations ... one serious about the electoral system and the other not-so-serious about Ron Jeremy. LOL.
#23
Read that BBC link carefully. If there is a hung parliament (no party has more than half the seats), the first thing that happens is that Gordon Brown as an opportunity for form a coalition government. This would be the case even if Labour didn't have the most seats. If Labour can't agree a deal (with the Libdems), then there is the possibility of a different coalition, or a new election.

I think many new voters find our system confusing because intuitively we think that an election is won or lost on the basis of how many votes a party get. What seems very unfair is that it would be quite possible for the Libdems to get 30% of he votes, but only 15% of the seats. Key to this election (one of the things that makes it really interesting) is the possibility that a Libdem coalition will result is changes in the system that more directly link seats to votes.

If we were to change to a proportional representation system , the Conservatives might find it very difficult to ever win a future election. This is because their vote is concentrated in safe seats. That's also why they are in a bit of a panic about the possibility of a hung parliament.
#24
The entire voteing system really needs to be rethought out, as so many peoples votes don't actualy count for anything with all the safe seats, and it's not just the Tories who have safe seats, Labour have several. Although all of that really could be turned on it's head this year, far more people are talking about voting than I have heard for along time.

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